Donald Trump really has no reason to be PC so feel free to post all his fukkery in this thread.

[J-Fire]

Yes, expecting the wealthy to pitch more in is asinine. Best to just keep squeezing the middle class. That's worked very good so far

Middle class has 401k and ability to buy stocks, lol. Shareholders benefit from corporate tax cuts. Don't you want a better retirement fund?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No...if anything I watch CNBC & Bloomberg everyday. China & Greece ain't Fox News only....its been the reality affecting the stock market all summer long, haha.

Their problems go beyond "socialism"

That's a quick and easy scapegoat presented by conservatives, to make socialism sound like a bad word.

And the government bailing out the banks had to happen cause Fannie & Freddie backed subprime loans with federal money! Then the government sold subprime loans to investment banks that packaged them as investment instruments for the general public!

So socialism is great and needed when it comes to huge corporations, but when we wanna talk about the well being of normal everyday citizens, socialism is a bad word.

You don't see the contradiction in your postion?

Freddie & Fannie since they are quasi government can operate for profit & a lot of ex congress people take on BS jobs to line their pockets. The government got greedy!

As I said socialism/government intervention is fine if rich people are getting richer, but as soon as some of that good-will starts being aimed at the people, then we hear how socialism is bad and how the market should be "free"

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Middle class has 401k and ability to buy stocks, lol. Shareholders benefit from corporate tax cuts. Don't you want a better retirement fund?

Trickle down huh?

 

[J-Fire]

Their problems go beyond "socialism"

That's a quick and easy scapegoat presented by conservatives, to make socialism sound like a bad word.


So socialism is great and needed when it comes to huge corporations, but when we wanna talk about the well being of normal everyday citizens, socialism is a bad word.

You don't see the contradiction in your postion?


As I said socialism/government intervention is fine if rich people are getting richer, but as soon as some of that good-will starts being aimed at the people, then we hear how socialism is bad and how the market should be "free"

I don't watch fox business news...what coservstive talking points? I'm talking straight stock market benefits which is how you fund your retirement and build wealth.


And no buddy my points don't contradict. Socialism means lack of private ownership and the government telling people how many people can be in a certain profession. While capitalism is private ownership and lack of barriers to compete for professions...you can open up a medical practice next to another medical practice in the USA without asking the damn government if you can do so. How does socialism help you when government controls your career choices and takes a lot of money out of your small business?

Government interference as in bailing out a bank has nothing to do with controlling GDP during contraction and growth. All forms of economies use monetary and fiscal policy to keep deflation and inflation in check.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Socialism means lack of private ownership and the government telling people how many people can be in a certain profession.

Ima just stop here, no need in continuing if you don't even understand the words you are using.

 

[J-Fire]

Trickle down huh?

Corporate taxes are double taxed!...Corporate wise and then your capital gains and or dividends.

Lower taxes...leads to higher dividends which benefits your 401k and individual stock holdings.

 

[J-Fire]

Ima just stop here, no need in continuing if you don't even understand the words you are using.

Clearly, you don't understand.



Socialist governments often dictate what kind of work people have to do and also limit the opportunity for many people to own businesses.

What is the Free Enterprise System? - Definition & Examples | Study.com

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Clearly, you don't understand.



Socialist governments often dictate what kind of work people have to do and also limit the opportunity for many people to own businesses.

What is the Free Enterprise System? - Definition & Examples | Study.com

What you are referring to is communism.

Socialism can exist alongside capitalism, it does right here in America as you admitted above with regards to the bank bailouts.

 

[J-Fire]

What you are referring to is communism.

Socialism can exist alongside capitalism, it does right here in America as you admitted above with regards to the bank bailouts.

I'm talking socialism as it is simply government owning private business & dictating job professions....communism goes beyond business as the government owns your home & personal goods.

A bank bailout is simply fiscal policy. It's like quantitative easing we did for 6yrs with monetary policy that ended 2014...aka whatever it takes to get growth during a crisis. We were in unprecedented times and did unprecedented things.

Socialism can exist with democracy...but not capitalism. Capitalism are socialism are opposites. The U.S. Government doesn't own half of Google & any other publicly traded company, lol. Social welfare can exsist with capitalism as all parties like social security!....but that's not socialism.

Maybe I shouldn't have this discuss with you until you learn the difference of what you speak.
Communism vs Socialism - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

 

[Madvillain]

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm talking socialism as it is simply government owning private business & dictating job professions....communism goes beyond business as the government owns your home & personal goods.

A bank bailout is simply fiscal policy. It's like quantitative easing we did for 6yrs with monetary policy that ended 2014...aka whatever it takes to get growth during a crisis. We were in unprecedented times and did unprecedented things.

Socialism can exist with democracy...but not capitalism. Capitalism are socialism are opposites. The U.S. Government doesn't own half of Google & any other publicly traded company, lol. Social welfare can exsist with capitalism as all parties like social security!....but that's not socialism.

Maybe I shouldn't have this discuss with you until you learn the difference of what you speak.
Communism vs Socialism - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

read your own link breh

 

[J-Fire]

Google is the greatest educator on earth with Search and YouTube. Even people in the projects have a smartphone that is more powerful than a server room in 1970. Education has been democratized if you will.

How much do people need beyond learning to read/write so you can educate yourself to even playing fields? You probably can't learn to be a doctor or lawyer solo....but you can at least learn to code apps on your own time. People act like Facebook, flappy birds, Dropbox, PayPal wasn't random dudes experimenting and coding with less access to online resources than we have today.

I don't want to live in a world where the government limits what people can do. The dude that made flappy birds was a poor dude in a 3rd world country that wrote some code in one night and was fortunate the communist didn't own his work.

The fact you can make apps for profit and add it to the million already out there without the government saying too many people make apps so pick another job....is why capitalism is great!

 

[Jello Biafra]

"Flappy birds"?

 

[Robbie3000]

I'm talking socialism as it is simply government owning private business & dictating job professions....communism goes beyond business as the government owns your home & personal goods.

A bank bailout is simply fiscal policy. It's like quantitative easing we did for 6yrs with monetary policy that ended 2014...aka whatever it takes to get growth during a crisis. We were in unprecedented times and did unprecedented things.

Socialism can exist with democracy...but not capitalism. Capitalism are socialism are opposites. The U.S. Government doesn't own half of Google & any other publicly traded company, lol. Social welfare can exsist with capitalism as all parties like social security!....but that's not socialism.

Maybe I shouldn't have this discuss with you until you learn the difference of what you speak.
Communism vs Socialism - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

Jesus Christ.



Stop embarrasing yourself.

 

[hypo666]

Howard Stern: Trump Will Be The Republican Nominee, He'll "Get Sh*t Done"

HOWARD STERN: I had some friends over for dinner and we were of course talking about Trump. People saying, we don't think Trump's going to be the nominee. I go, I'll tell you what: I think he is. I do...

I haven't asked for Trump to come on because I think Trump should come on because we're always there for him when no one was looking for him. But I'm holding back on that. I'm waiting for some -- like right now everyone is interviewing Trump. When I'm ready, we'll call in that card, but not ready yet...

I'll tell you why I think he's going to be the nominee: he's proven that no matter what he says, people dig him. I also think that a lot of people are of the mind that a, they hate illegal immigrants but they just feel funny saying it -- whether it's rational or not -- it's the illegal immigrant draining your economy? Possibly. Is he taking your job? Possible...

But I think more or less, people are super tired of politicians, meaning that they like the idea of a successful businessman running the country who might actually be able to get shyt done. But the problem with it is, and Donald Trump will find this, being the president isn't like being the president like a corporation. You still got to go through Congress for everything you want to do and that's the tough part. You've got to be one who can consolidate on both sides of the aisle, you know, some sort of coalition and it's very difficult...

People are just fed up with that. You know, Ronald Reagan was in Bedtime for Bonzo. He was a B-list movie star who became a very successful president. And so they are looking back toward those days and hey maybe that's the answer. Forget all these politicians who are professionals, we want to try somebody who is used to a business kind of thing.