Don't think I was gonna let this go, Red Side..

[R=G]

You guys just had a WWE Network NWO 01 party where every match was SCORCHING HOT with the fans...lol. I watched the Trish/Lita match from the beginning to end and the crowd was ABSURD for Trish even remotely moving pieces of clothing. That's all she had to do back then..that's how over they were with that era.

So Angle being put over by the Rock for a few months and even walking out of that HIAC in December? It had the fans ready for him to get his ass kicked..the whole gimmick was that Angle couldn't beat Rock one on one and Cripple H or Edge/Christian would help or Rikishi..all of that kind of shyt. They did the one on one without the nonsense and he lost. That was how it was in the Attitude Era. When Austin or Rock faced you without any intereference, you would LOSE. Benoit..Angle..Eddie...Taker...Kane...Cripple H...anyone.

 

[R=G]

By overall I'm talking about overall package. Promos/mic skills, personality, charisma, wrestling skills, etc.

I don't care what the criteria you want to use..Kurt Angle does not have the moments and legendary impact that Rick Rude or Flair had. He doesn't have the vignettes Mr. Perfect had. He doesn't have the snake cobra bite segment on his resume like Jake Roberts. Or how Macho came out of retirement..he was a fast learning worker who was very capable of the mic and was put over by some big fukking names.

 

[Tommy Fits]

Everyone here are children and think of two eras at most...lol.

Is Angle a good heel comedian? Sure. Did he copy a lot of Benoit post 2000? Sure. But is he top 10 greatest wrestler ever? You're nuts. He's a spot guy who has Olympic pedrigree to his name and he picked this up ultra fast. That's about it. He was given ALOT by some big names.

a lot is 2 words not one

 

[R=G]

a lot is 2 words not one

Thanks for your small contribution for not saying much yet again

 

[mrken12]

I don't care what the criteria you want to use..Kurt Angle does not have the moments and legendary impact that Rick Rude or Flair had. He doesn't have the vignettes Mr. Perfect had. He doesn't have the snake cobra bite segment on his resume like Jake Roberts. Or how Macho came out of retirement..he was a fast learning worker who was very capable of the mic and was put over by some big fukking names.

Kurt Angle doesn't have memorable legendary moments? Did we forget how people at the HOF went crazy for all the references made to moments in his career? Even when you take out the funny moments, he has a lot of serious intense moments as well. That's even without including his TNA career which was another HOF career in itself.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Everyone here are children and think of two eras at most...lol.

Is Angle a good heel comedian? Sure. Did he copy a lot of Benoit post 2000? Sure. But is he top 10 greatest wrestler ever? You're nuts. He's a spot guy who has Olympic pedrigree to his name and he picked this up ultra fast. That's about it. He was given ALOT by some big names.

He gets praised by everyone. Austin, Rock, Hogan. Big names.

at calling him a spot guy. Wow.

I don't understand the "copy" part you mention. He worked with Benoit early in his career, so he was bound to add moves to his arsenal. But so what? He didn't steal signature moves Benoit did. And don't bring up a German or belly to belly suplexes because those are basic moves done for a long time.

You stan Cesaro, but can't give Angle his due.

Career wise?

Rock
Austin
Sting
Undertaker
Jake Roberts
Macho Man Randy Savage
Flair
Rick Rude
Eddie Guerrero
Rey Mysterio

You can easily take out Jake and add Angle. Rude is debatable for some.

 

[mrken12]

He gets praised by everyone. Austin, Rock, Hogan. Big names.

at calling him a spot guy. Wow.

I don't understand the "copy" part you mention. He worked with Benoit early in his career, so he was bound to add moves to his arsenal. But so what? He didn't steal signature moves Benoit did. And don't bring up a German or belly to belly suplexes because those are basic moves done for a long time.

You stan Cesaro, but can't give Angle his due.



You can easily take out Jake and add Angle. Rude is debatable for some.

I'd take out Mysterio too because he couldn't cut a promo to save his life.

Flair spent too many years being and brought down his legacy a little bit.

Same could be said for The Undertaker and Sting.

 

[R=G]

He gets praised by everyone. Austin, Rock, Hogan. Big names.

at calling him a spot guy. Wow.

I don't understand the "copy" part you mention. He worked with Benoit early in his career, so he was bound to add moves to his arsenal. But so what? He didn't steal signature moves Benoit did. And don't bring up a German or belly to belly suplexes because those are basic moves done for a long time.

You stan Cesaro, but can't give Angle his due.



You can easily take out Jake and add Angle. Rude is debatable for some.

Angle started doing a lot of German suplexes in Benoit fashion post 2000. Everyone knows that. He perfected the style by Rumble 03. That's why he puts Benoit over more than damn near everybody in every interview he does.

I stan Cesaro because he didn't get half the rocket that Angle got and is STILL HERE

Of course Rock and Austin praises Angle..they're friends and they had memorable segments and matches with them. Hogan is full of shyt.....he tried to put himself over at the Macho induction. Get real. Guy needs to leave the spotlight.

No you can't easily take out Jake Roberts because he's 20x the mic worker Angle is and definitely was WWF title material years ago...they just didn't have WCW breathing down their necks at the time so he didn't get those opportunities.

Rick Rude is ALL TIME great presence and heel. He did everything he was supposed to do in his career and did it the right way.

 

[mrken12]

Angle started doing a lot of German suplexes in Benoit fashion post 2000. Everyone knows that. He perfected the style by Rumble 03. That's why he puts Benoit over more than damn near everybody in every interview he does.

I stan Cesaro because he didn't get half the rocket that Angle got and is STILL HERE

Of course Rock and Austin praises Angle..they're friends and they had memorable segments and matches with them. Hogan is full of shyt.....he tried to put himself over at the Macho induction. Get real. Guy needs to leave the spotlight.

No you can't easily take out Jake Roberts because he's 20x the mic worker Angle is and definitely was WWF title material years ago...they just didn't have WCW breathing down their necks at the time so he didn't get those opportunities.

Rick Rude is ALL TIME great presence and heel. He did everything he was supposed to do in his career and did it the right way.

Rude never had a strong face run. Angle had strong face runs and strong heel runs.

 

[Stop_It_5]

Kurt didn't have moments or an impact?



His milk truck segment and you suck gimmick are legendary

 

[MenacingMonk]

Angle started doing a lot of German suplexes in Benoit fashion post 2000. Everyone knows that. He perfected the style by Rumble 03. That's why he puts Benoit over more than damn near everybody in every interview he does.

I stan Cesaro because he didn't get half the rocket that Angle got and is STILL HERE

Of course Rock and Austin praises Angle..they're friends and they had memorable segments and matches with them. Hogan is full of shyt.....he tried to put himself over at the Macho induction. Get real. Guy needs to leave the spotlight.

No you can't easily take out Jake Roberts because he's 20x the mic worker Angle is and definitely was WWF title material years ago...they just didn't have WCW breathing down their necks at the time so he didn't get those opportunities.

Rick Rude is ALL TIME great presence and heel. He did everything he was supposed to do in his career and did it the right way.

I tell this guy about german suplexes and he still brings it up.

Jake can cut a promo, but he was never versatile like Kurt. Kurt could go through many different emotions on the mic and they were all good.

But whatever, man, your views aren't gonna change. I'm done going back and forth.

 

[Tommy Fits]

Thanks for your small contribution for not saying much yet again

Just like this thread

 

[The Great One]

What do mean great worker? Has he carried someone i don't know about? Has he outworked Seth and mulitple legit workers of note? He didn't lead Balor..or Lesnar..or Styles..or Bryan..or Seth...or Cesaro....he no sold and hit his spots but a ton of guys do that and actually sell to make the ending less nauseating and non believable. The Bray matches sucked and we know Bray isn't leading anyone. The Roman/Blandy match is something no one even likes to mention it was so forgettable.

I don't see this "he's the best worker on Raw" narrative which is now being sold by multiple marks around here.

Yeah I disagree with you on all counts, not going to argue though, I really don't care, do you.

 

[R=G]

Just like this thread

If it didn't matter, you wouldn't have contributed out of nowhere. There are no absolutes..so why act like what you're saying is the agreed consensus? Lol

 

[R=G]

I tell this guy about german suplexes and he still brings it up.

Jake can cut a promo, but he was never versatile like Kurt. Kurt could go through many different emotions on the mic and they were all good.

But whatever, man, your views aren't gonna change. I'm done going back and forth.

I can't believe u write that shyt about Jake's promo range..you really believe that, eh? Internet fans..lol