Dr. Boyce and Dr. Umar seem to be beefing (7 days left of the year and he's still making videos)

[Apollo Creed]

And boyce needs to make a new channel for his site contributors, when your channel is named after you anyone who posts content people lretty much assume you are cosigning.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I'm not saying he's not a fraud, if he is I want to know.
I just like to know that facts. Most people make a lot of assumptions before the facts come out. Looks to me you don't have any solid facts or evidence to call him a fraud either. Tho he still might be, maybe I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and have a little more patience as far as the school thing. I don't give 2 shyts about the hooker thing.

From what I've read the school was suppose to be in Ga I think. I think he needed 2 millions and he's raised less than 1/2 of that. As someone who's been in the process of opening a business, there are a lot of unforeseen issues. I probably would have to lease that bldg from the state or city for several years before it's even inspected. That's 100,000$ right there.

He's probably way over his with the school thing.

I agree. People have been workers all their lives and have no idea what it takes to run a business or even start something as large as a school. He actually has addressed all the issues people bring up. If I was him I would stop addressing them at this point as well. Black people are so simple somethings. It obvious that this school is going to be more than just that. Think bigger people. That's why the "he just needs to do an online course" or "he should just throw something together people" are so nerve racking.

I am still not sure how I feel about Umar. But I know he does do more than just talk and I support anyone who is actaully physically doing rather than talking. I could care let about this beef, the stripper or whatever else he has going on. If he is helping that is all that matters to me.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

So have you seen a syllabus of what is to be taught if a school is to be built?

Also, I heard the more recent school is going to be in Rochester.you see where I'm going with this?

Just saw him speak a few weeks ago. The location is still the same. Also he has stated that he has a syllabus but has intention of giving it away.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I agree. People have been workers all their lives and have no idea what it takes to run a business or even start something as large as a school. He actually has addressed all the issues people bring up. If I was him I would stop addressing them at this point as well. Black people are so simple somethings. It obvious that this school is going to be more than just that. Think bigger people. That's why the "he just needs to do an online course" or "he should just throw something together people" are so nerve racking.

I am still not sure how I feel about Umar. But I know he does do more than just talk and I support anyone who is actaully physically doing rather than talking. I could care let about this beef, the stripper or whatever else he has going on. If he is helping that is all that matters to me.

End of the day nobody would question Umar if there was a business plan. This isnt raising money to create something and be done like a movie or a video game, this is raising money to start a business/organization that will be long running and has operational cost.

Anyone NOT asking to see a business plan is an idiot. Its one thing if there was already a school, and a go fund me was started to help the school with short term goals ie.bring computers. But you are an idiot if you dont want to know the plan of action to keep the lights on or even pay for wifi let alone pay teachers

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I can't fukk with Umar because he says ritalin and crack are the same, with a straight face, and people eat it up. I don't know why we as a people are so insecure, but we follow anyone who sounds intelligent and no one ever stops to fact check these dudes.

But has worked in the special education departemet in Philly public schools. I went and looked up the documentation for myself. He is on several annual reports as a doctor. Why do people always say fact check when they haven't done any fact checking themselves?

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

End of the day nobody would question Umar if there was a business plan. This isnt raising money to create something and be done like a movie or a video game, this is raising money to start a business/organization that will be long running and has operational cost.

Anyone NOT asking to see a business plan is an idiot. Its one thing if there was already a school, and a go fund me was started to help the school with short term goals ie.bring computers. But you are an idiot if you dont want to know the plan of action to keep the lights on or even pay for wifi let alone pay teachers

Have you asked for a plan? I have never once heard anyone say the actually asked for a plan and he could not produce that information. Most people just assume he doesn't have one. Just saying.
Also as a business owner I would only show my business plan to serious investors. It's not something you just release to the public for $5 donations. Again the school is more than a school so expect him to have some discretion.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Have you asked for a plan? I have never once heard anyone say the actually asked for a plan and he could not produce that information. Most people just assume he doesn't have one. Just saying.
Also as a business owner I would only show my business plan to serious investors. It's not something you just release to the public for $5 donations. Again the school is more than a school so expect him to have some discretion.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

does umar ever go to protests?

Many

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Do you own a business? Have you ever owned a business or produced a business plan? You do know that when you show a business plan normal procedure is for the person/business you are showing it to to sign an agreement stating that they will not copy or emulate your buiness, yes? I'm sure you knew that. I am also sure you have asked the man why you haven't seen one from him as well since the man literally gives out his personal phone where he can be contacted at anytime. If you are going to be critical be thorough with it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Do you own a business? Have you ever owned a business or produced a business plan? You do know that when you show a business plan normal procedure is for the person/business you are showing it to to sign an agreement stating that they will not copy or emulate your buiness, yes? I'm sure you knew that. I am also sure you have asked the man why you haven't seen one from him as well since the man literally gives out his personal phone where he can be contacted at anytime. If you are going to be critical be thorough with it.

 

[hoodheronova]

your doing the right thing by not arguing with trolls. I commend you brotha

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Exactly as I thought; all mouth.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

your doing the right thing by not arguing with trolls. I commend you brotha

I've been here longer than you. Calling someone a troll. fukk outta here.

 

[agnosticlady]

Dudes and chicks clamoring for a black leader in a pathological extension of a search for an adequate father figure. This is why a lotta fukkers start calling people white supremacist racial epithets when you question the motives and raw data associated with these cats' plans. To them, you're talking bad about they daddy. That's how dangerous nationalistic fervor in the post-industrial age is, because it turns into psychotic delusion which stifles progress and prevents effective solutions that can benefit the collective group.

These negroes are actually a giant waste of time in the long run, with wholly unrealistic plans that make not a lick of sense, which is why they cling to nationalism to leech funds from their community. It's just to keep brehs segregated from their more upwardly mobile counterparts through preoccupation with nationalistic pride. Thirteen percent of the population with 2.7% of the nation's wealth don't have a fukking prayer in achieving massively significant upward mobility through nationalistic segregation. But these dudes won't tell you that because their purpose is not to uplift the black community, but rather to scam hoodwinked negroes and uplift themselves, instead.

Assimilation with a passive regard for cultural tradition is the key to a racial minority acquiring a decent share of wealth in a country. Basically, if a Chinese family were to move into Claude Anderson's "Africatown", they would have a whole lot more success assimilating with blacks rather than engaging in peculiar Chinese customs and traditions and nationalistic fervor. These dudes know this, but they won't tell blacks this, because then they can't sell you a bullshyt dream and appear to be some sort of heroic father figure to their community.

Plus I'm half drunk.

That is a true statement....That is why it is easy for some men to game some of those conscious sisters like @bdizzle mentioned. You can read a page from a book about a tribe in Congo and present it and some will go ga-ga over that stuff.....sadly...and no this is not to discredit umar, tariq, boyce, or anybody that wants to help, but I'm just mentioning what I see.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Exactly as I thought; all mouth.

Ill post my business plan when I ask black folks to give me 4 mill, until then