Dr. Boyce and Dr. Umar seem to be beefing (7 days left of the year and he's still making videos)

[Stuntone]

Umar ain't shyt, it's just that simple to me.

Please explain?

 

[agnosticlady]

First Black People need to stop thinking you have to choose sides when there's a disagreement between 2 parties. WTF. We're so lost. We divide and conquer ourselves.






Exactly.

He might be smashing these chicks or he's a simp. That super lightskin chick was going at Farrakhan the God and he didn't shut her up. I like Boyce but you can't let anyone talk reckless like that. Black people are so fragile and so easily turned off. Just look at @agnosticlady. She thinks Umar should quit trying to help Blacks bcuz he slept with a hooker.

He needs to keep he's people on the same page as him. Fox News might be fukked up, but they're on the same page. That's where power and unity comes from.



Right. There's a wrong and right way to ask a question. She made Umar get defensive.







Why do you all expect perfection for these men? You do think a man can have great ideas and sleep with a whore?

So this man should stop trying to help the Race bcuz he slept with a whore?



For some reason Blacks don't know how to "eat the meat and throw away the bone" Take the good and threw out what you can't use. A person says or does one thing you don't like and he's absolutely no good and should quit. WTF! we are done!

Nobody is expecting perfection and he set the standard for himself. If he was sleeping around with some afro-centric Claire Huxtable nobody would care, but the same woman he tells black women not to be like is the one he's messing with and then instead of him to just say, "Yeah i was being a hypocrite" he acts as if he's above her. I can't tell black men to act correct but I'm messing around with some D-boy pimp from the hood. it doesn't add up. I'm not discrediting the good that he has done, but let's not act like we can not call out something when it is wrong.

 

[El Bombi]

I knew this was going to happen when that video was upload on Dr. Boyce Watkins Youtube page.

I Boyce Watkins doesn't really pay attention to the videos that is upload on his page.

Umar is a bytch for not personally calling Boyce Watkins about the video.

 

[El Bombi]

I would low key smash that Maria Lloyd chick on the low low tho.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

Please explain?

He's a fraud bro. Just let it go.

It's going on 2016 and there hasn't been one peep about a school. Not one syllabus. Not one possible reading list. No participants or possible teacher candidates. Nothing.

We still don't know the location of where the school is suppose to be, since it's switched locations multiple times at this point.

That's a red flag in spades bruh, and I haven't even gotten to his character as a person and already I'm calling foul.

This dude is one the worst kinds of blood suckers to the black community; because he's essentially using our humble and welcoming nature as a means to become a vulture and swindle the black dollar for his own self indulgence.

If anyone is a race traitor it's Mr. Shoemaker.

 

[Stuntone]

Nobody is expecting perfection and he set the standard for himself. If he was sleeping around with some afro-centric Claire Huxtable nobody would care, but the same woman he tells black women not to be like is the one he's messing with and then instead of him to just say, "Yeah i was being a hypocrite" he acts as if he's above her. I can't tell black men to act correct but I'm messing around with some D-boy pimp from the hood. it doesn't add up. I'm not discrediting the good that he has done, but let's not act like we can not call out something when it is wrong.

I've never heard him say he would never sleep with a whore. That's what a hypocrite is.
I don't see it that way. I think you're are suppose to tell people what you think is the best way or action, even if you're not going to make that choice every time.

You think he should tell women to sleep with goons and men should sleep with whores?

 

[agnosticlady]

I've never heard him say he would never sleep with a whore. That's what a hypocrite is.
I don't see it that way. I think you're are suppose to tell people what you think is the best way or action, even if you're not going to make that choice every time.

You think he should tell women to sleep with goons and men should sleep with whores?

If I tell black men that they need to get their act together, stay on the right path, not sell drugs in their community, not pimp out their women, get a higher education, and etc yet I'm messing with someone who is a high school drop out D-boy that pimps women from his community that makes me a hypocrite.

 

[Higher Tech]

These men are all just words anyway

I agree 100%. I used to follow Dr. Boyce because what he preaches about financial responsibility is spot on. But he's all talk. and dogs nikkas out on his facebook page. I never really followed Umar.

 

[Stuntone]

He's a fraud bro. Just let it go.

It's going on 2016 and there hasn't been one peep about a school. Not one syllabus. Not one possible reading list. No participants or possible teacher candidates. Nothing.

We still don't know the location of where the school is suppose to be, since it's switched locations multiple times at this point.

That's a red flag in spades bruh, and I haven't even gotten to his character as a person and already I'm calling foul.

This dude is one the worst kinds of blood suckers to the black community; because he's essentially using our humble and welcoming nature as a means to become a vulture and swindle the black dollar for his own self indulgence.

If anyone is a race traitor it's Mr. Shoemaker.

I'm not saying he's not a fraud, if he is I want to know.
I just like to know that facts. Most people make a lot of assumptions before the facts come out. Looks to me you don't have any solid facts or evidence to call him a fraud either. Tho he still might be, maybe I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and have a little more patience as far as the school thing. I don't give 2 shyts about the hooker thing.

From what I've read the school was suppose to be in Ga I think. I think he needed 2 millions and he's raised less than 1/2 of that. As someone who's been in the process of opening a business, there are a lot of unforeseen issues. I probably would have to lease that bldg from the state or city for several years before it's even inspected. That's 100,000$ right there.

He's probably way over his with the school thing.

 

[Stuntone]

If I tell black men that they need to get their act together, stay on the right path, not sell drugs in their community, not pimp out their women, get a higher education, and etc yet I'm messing with someone who is a high school drop out D-boy that pimps women from his community that makes me a hypocrite.

Still doesn't take away the good ideas and knowledge you have. And a whore monger can still be an asset to our community.

 

[agnosticlady]

Still doesn't take away the good ideas and knowledge you have. And a whore monger can still be an asset to our community.

I never said that it did. I am saying that if I am engaging in that type of stuff I am being a hypocrite and should be criticized especially if i can't provide blue prints for a school.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Crap like this is why the little blacks who have wealth look at the rest of y'all like

The hell Diddy, Will Smith, Oprah, etc would do business with these types who have got damn online beef.

Keep putting your faith in these hustlers to save your life. At the end of the day take the knowledge the Elders like Claud, Dr.Ben, the NOI, etc etc laid out and apply it yourself. Theres a reason these so called current leaders have not accomplished anything yet tour the country as if they are celebs, yet have to set up Go Fund Me for every little thing they want to do.

I respect Tariq because he doesnt call himself a leader, nor does he want the title. These other folks who talk on the "my word is the end all be all" steeze can kick rocks.

 

[Stuntone]

I never said that it did. I am saying that if I am engaging in that type of stuff I am being a hypocrite and should be criticized especially if i can't provide blue prints for a school.

You said he should stop speaking. I think he has a lot of good knowledge and ideas.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

I'm not saying he's not a fraud, if he is I want to know.
I just like to know that facts. Most people make a lot of assumptions before the facts come out. Looks to me you don't have any solid facts or evidence to call him a fraud either. Tho he still might be, maybe I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and have a little more patience as far as the school thing. I don't give 2 shyts about the hooker thing.

From what I've read the school was suppose to be in Ga I think. I think he needed 2 millions and he's raised less than 1/2 of that. As someone who's been in the process of opening a business, there are a lot of unforeseen issues. I probably would have to lease that bldg from the state or city for several years before it's even inspected. That's 100,000$ right there.

He's probably way over his with the school thing.

So have you seen a syllabus of what is to be taught if a school is to be built?

Also, I heard the more recent school is going to be in Rochester.you see where I'm going with this?

 

[Stuntone]

So have you seen a syllabus of what is to be taught if a school is to be built?

Also, I heard the more recent school is going to be in Rochester.you see where I'm going with this?

Did you read anything I said?

I'm sure he's a long way from a syllabus. I'm pretty sure you are not starting any type of school in 2 years with all the regulations. I don't know it's legal to have an all Black school. And just bcuz we don't know the status of the school, that there isn't one.


I'm not an Umar defender either, he might have pocketed the money. I am a defender of logic and facts tho, which we don't have much. So I'll hold off on my judgment.