Dr. Dre is the greatest hip hop producer of all time. Hands down. Nothing overrated about him

[TripleAgent]

Nah, they got credit as co-producers according to D.O.C. because they had a lot of ideas and influence on the direction of the songs.

He said Yella was a DJ, but wasn't the one doing the actual loops and sitting and banging out drums or chopping samples. That was Dre. He and even Yella himself said their roles were in helping with the direction. Even going out and buying records they thought Dre could use. The person making the actual beats, was Dre. Arabian Prince did a lot of techno and club sh*t away from Dre, and he actually knew how to make beats. But with Dre, he took a backseat and helped in other ways, according to Cube.

He was more involved with the JJ Fad sh*t and Cube was writing. But the reason why he was bounced from the NWA circle was because they felt they didn't need him. Dre was doing everything.

Direction is technically producing. Doing the actual loops and sitting and banging out drums or chopping samples is technically engineering. Team effort. Again, Dre made them great, but team effort. I can't give him full credit for that. Not like a Premier, Pete Rock or RZA that do it all alone. Especially with his Doombots giving him whole tracks to redo or spice up.

 

[I love Latina women]

I have a hard time calling all these "Dre classics" when they were team efforts.

Strawman. Nobody said that at all.

Producers create. Session musicians play what they're told. Resto produced, so again, Dre had help.

Another strawman. I didn't say that. Again, Mel-Man did most of the rest. You're trying to frame it like Finesse did one and Dre did the rest, which isn't true.

All these other producers that produced on these albums you listed. YOUR WORDS were whole albums produced by Premier, but all but 3 of the "Dre classics" you listed he didn't produce alone.

So stop lumping them in as "Dre classics" as if he went in the lab and banged all those beats out. He has people give him skeletons and whole tracks. He might make them great, but I don't count that the same.

lol this nikka trying to raise my blood pressure but it ain’t working

Dre is the main producer, he is the man

Yes, Mel Man co produced 2001 album with Dre. We’ve been down this road, Triple lol


They’re Dre classics because he’s at the helm of these albums, conducting it all. Adding a track from someone else doesn’t take away from it being Dre at the center of it.


Now if we getting picky, Guru got production credit on Gang Starr albums. Does that take away from Premier producing Gang Starr’s albums?

 

[I love Latina women]

Direction is technically producing. Doing the actual loops and sitting and banging out drums or chopping samples is technically engineering. Team effort. Again, Dre made them great, but team effort. I can't give him full credit for that. Not like a Premier, Pete Rock or RZA that do it all alone. Especially with his Doombots giving him whole tracks to redo or spice up.

If you climbing this ladder, RZA, Pete Rock and Premier had co producers

RZA:
True Master
4th Disciple
Inspectah Deck

Pete Rock:
C.L. Smooth


Premier:
Guru
the 45 King

Some of y’all who try to chop down Dre’s credit but be quick to put RZA and Premier over him don’t ever mention how producers like RZA had co producers for songs too


If we playing this game, let’s keep it fair

 

[TripleAgent]

lol this nikka trying to raise my blood pressure but it ain’t working

Dre is the main producer, he is the man

Yes, Mel Man co produced 2001 album with Dre. We’ve been down this road, Triple lol


They’re Dre classics because he’s at the helm of these albums, conducting it all. Adding a track from someone else doesn’t take away from it being Dre at the center of it.


Now if we getting picky, Guru got production credit on Gang Starr albums. Does that take away from Premier producing Gang Starr’s albums?

Guru producing one track on a Gangstarr album is nowhere in the same league as MelMan HANDING DRE COMPLETED TRACKS THEN GIVING DRE THE CREDIT. STOP IT.

 

[I love Latina women]

Guru producing one track on a Gangstarr album is nowhere in the same league as MelMan HANDING DRE COMPLETED TRACKS THEN GIVING DRE THE CREDIT. STOP IT.

Nah nah nah, you was the one who started down this road, don’t make a u turn now lol


See, I knew you’d start back peddling with this shyt haha

 

[Awesome Wells]

Direction is technically producing. Doing the actual loops and sitting and banging out drums or chopping samples is technically engineering. Team effort. Again, Dre made them great, but team effort. I can't give him full credit for that. Not like a Premier, Pete Rock or RZA that do it all alone. Especially with his Doombots giving him whole tracks to redo or spice up.

Direction is definitely producing.

I was more addressing how dudes always say someone else was making the actual beats. But production is also being able to do all of these things. It includes making the beats and knowing who should have them. Dre does it all. Everybody isn't on that level. Definitely not no damn Yella and Arabian Prince. HAHA!!

Dre didn't always rely on a team though. He's the GOAT because he can do it with people, or without. I'll put it like this. Dre can say he's done everything at a level higher than the people we always mention in the Top 5. But those same dudes in the Top 5 can't say they've done what Dre did. With the exception, of maybe Q-Tip.

 

[Cladyclad]

Compton is still garbage.

 

[Awesome Wells]

If you climbing this ladder, RZA, Pete Rock and Premier had co producers

RZA:
True Master
4th Disciple
Inspectah Deck

Pete Rock:
C.L. Smooth


Premier:
Guru
the 45 King

Some of y’all who try to chop down Dre’s credit but be quick to put RZA and Premier over him don’t ever mention how producers like RZA had co producers for songs too


If we playing this game, let’s keep it fair

Facts.

People probably didn't obsess over liner notes the way we did back in the day, lol. Because there is not one GOAT producer who never had co-producers, on whatever level. The creation of music doesn't work without help. All the greats got help, one way or another.

 

[Damnshow]

Dre and Quik are 1A and 1B

No they're not.

Dre worked with talented artists most of the time while Quik wasted a lot of his beats on mediocre rappers.

I like Quik beats, but a lot of his songs have a so so rapping I just don't see how he's in a Dre tier.

 

[TripleAgent]

Facts.

People probably didn't obsess over liner notes the way we did back in the day, lol. Because there is not one GOAT producer who never had co-producers, on whatever level. The creation of music doesn't work without help. All the greats got help, one way or another.

He just lives to argue. Most of that post you're replying to is bullshyt.

 

[I love Latina women]

Facts.

People probably didn't obsess over liner notes the way we did back in the day, lol. Because there is not one GOAT producer who never had co-producers, on whatever level. The creation of music doesn't work without help. All the greats got help, one way or another.

Exactly

In reality, it’s a team effort of some sort (producers, engineers, musicians etc)

Example: Even Sly Stone had collaborators (Ike Turner and Bobby Womack) during his There’s A Riot Goin On album

Obviously his band members played instruments for the music he wrote

But yeah, RZA had co producers just as Dre, Erick Sermon, Premier, Pete Rock, Prince Paul etc

 

[ADP]

At 01:29:00 Preemo speaking to some of you about the good Doctor

 

[Awesome Wells]

At 01:29:00 Preemo speaking to some of you about the good Doctor

 

[I love Latina women]

At 01:29:00 Preemo speaking to some of you about the good Doctor

He’s right

 

[I love Latina women]

He just lives to argue. Most of that post you're replying to is bullshyt.

Nah, it’s just a conversation

And like I said, I noticed you ain’t a say word when I mentioned RZA, Premier or Pete Rock having co producers; because you know I’m right.

It’s your pride that won’t let you say you were wrong and I was right

It’s all good though