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The only way you can hold an organization accountable as a fan is by not going to the games and even then the NBA makes so much money collectively that a team not named Brooklyn might still profit

But with revenue sharing and those billion dollar TV contracts, bad teams still turn a profit. If anything they will turn a bigger profit at times because they don't spend a lot on payroll. Which is why teams are forced to spend a certain amount of money and thus you get marginal players who you never heard of getting 10+ million dollar a year contracts.
 

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But with revenue sharing and those billion dollar TV contracts, bad teams still turn a profit. If anything they will turn a bigger profit at times because they don't spend a lot on payroll. Which is why teams are forced to spend a certain amount of money and thus you get marginal players who you never heard of getting 10+ million dollar a year contracts.

Most teams spend a shyt ton on payroll now because the floor is high. There's no real penalty for not spending, BUT you will get shytted on for appearing to not try to make your team better. That costs people jobs unless you can turn anyone into a productive player.
 

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Yes because taking on dragic and Lamar Odom and a bunch of big contracts was what they needed so that they end up with mediocre players that'll keep them at 35-43 wins for a few years. Then they don't get Davis and are 15-20 win status once the mediocre players they get in the chris paul to the lakers trade age out.

So basically in this scenario they suck, EXACTLY LIKE THEY DO NOW... but without the negative karmic energy of the biggest screw job in NBA history hanging around their necks :ehh:


Sounds like the better option to me... so sad the league put that evil on them... I'll enjoy them sucking for the reminder of AD's contract, would be awesome if he left in FA to join Russell and Ingram to lead the lakers to another title run in 2021
 

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The only way you can hold an organization accountable as a fan is by not going to the games and even then the NBA makes so much money collectively that a team not named Brooklyn might still profit

Same way you hold players that are guaranteed millions either way accountable...shyt on them. I meant to include media in there.
 

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No one player, especially at 19 or 20, is gonna single-handedly turn around a shytty org. shytty orgs tend to get the best prospects. I am just glad guys are :camby: that one way loyalty shyt. Nothing is gonna change until a) they change the draft b) fans start holding these orgs accountable rather than the players all the time.

Think about it, teams will suck for years, bring in a highly touted teenager, continue to do sucky shyt around said player, and then the player takes all the shyt for not elevating the level of play of the shyt around him while the FO makes money hand over fist off of his star power and he is "soft" or "beta" when he leaves :dead:
One player has turned a franchise around before but it's rare as hell. We're talking O'Neal/Robinson levels of rarity.
 

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So basically in this scenario they suck, EXACTLY LIKE THEY DO NOW... but without the negative karmic energy of the biggest screw job in NBA history hanging around their necks :ehh:


Sounds like the better option to me... so sad the league put that evil on them... I'll enjoy them sucking for the reminder of AD's contract, would be awesome if he left in FA to join Russell and Ingram to lead the lakers to another title run in 2021
They would be sucking like this with a higher payroll and no reason for any optimism going forward or anything to build around. They'd basically be the 2010-14 Cavaliers minus winning the lottery 4 years in a row. There's no bad karma causing this. The hornets front office is ass cheeks. If anything, stern and silver should have chosen to step in more often because that actually worked out well for them and they've made no other good choices really.
 

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One player has turned a franchise around before but it's rare as hell. We're talking O'Neal/Robinson levels of rarity.

The Magic did an excellent job building around Shaq. He wasn't asked to carry scrubs to make up for shytty GMing.
 

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So basically in this scenario they suck, EXACTLY LIKE THEY DO NOW... but without the negative karmic energy of the biggest screw job in NBA history hanging around their necks :ehh:


Sounds like the better option to me... so sad the league put that evil on them... I'll enjoy them sucking for the reminder of AD's contract, would be awesome if he left in FA to join Russell and Ingram to lead the lakers to another title run in 2021

Karmic energy? :mjlol: If that was really at play the Lakers (among other successful squads) wouldn't have a lot of their success.

At what point will we acknowledge that basketball reasons actually benefitted the Lakers? You got excellent young talent and a bright future now. If the CP3 trade goes through you still don't win shyt, you still don't get top FAs, AND you don't get these young pieces and you are trapped on the treadmill ruing the day that CP3 was ever acquired.
 

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At what point will we acknowledge that basketball reasons actually benefitted the Lakers.

:comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon:


Getting cp3s prime with room for another max free agent and saving the lakers from Steve Nash and likely keeping Kobe from a career ending the injury would've allowed them to rebuild on the fly and extend the title window... championships weren't guaranteed, cause they never are...but get the entire full fukk outta here with even pretending to suggest basketball reasons was anything but a disastrous screw job towards the lakers that set the franchise backs years

Pretend that it worked out for the pelicans all you want, but what u said is a bridge too far and damn near neg worthy
 

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Getting cp3s prime with room for another max free agent and saving the lakers from Steve Nash and likely keeping Kobe from a career ending the injury would've allowed them to rebuild on the fly and extend the title window... championships weren't guaranteed, cause they never are...but get the entire full fukk outta here with even pretending to suggest basketball reasons was anything but a disastrous screw job towards the lakers that set the franchise backs years

Pretend that it worked out for the pelicans all you want, but what u said is a bridge too far and damn near neg worthy
The lakers would have had no pau and no Odom while banking on Andrew Bynum and his knees to hold up. A year after the trade his knees crumbled from the strain of going bowling. That's not even mentioning the fact that knowing how much of a dikk CP3 is and how much of a prick Kobe is, those two would've thrown hands before long over who controls the offense. Kobe and alpha dog personalities never mixed.
 

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:comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon::comeon:


Getting cp3s prime with room for another max free agent and saving the lakers from Steve Nash and likely keeping Kobe from a career ending the injury would've allowed them to rebuild on the fly and extend the title window... championships weren't guaranteed, cause they never are...but get the entire full fukk outta here with even pretending to suggest basketball reasons was anything but a disastrous screw job towards the lakers that set the franchise backs years

Pretend that it worked out for the pelicans all you want, but what u said is a bridge too far and damn near neg worthy

For starters, an owner not bending over and actually putting their squads well being over adding to Laker lore =/= a screw job. The entitlement :mjlol:.

The rest of the stuff you said would make perfect sense if there wasn't...you know...actual evidence to the contrary. It's hilarious how people act like it's still 2011, like we haven't seen stuff play out since then. Kobe and Dwight just barely got the Lakers in the playoffs...you telling me CP3 (affectionately known as CP0 for his inability to get to the WCF with multiple max players around him) was the difference between that and a Finals run? Dwight still leaves because he most certainly doesn't get along with Kobe and CP3. That leaves a team with no cap room the first year and then a damn near $50 mil backcourt (one guy in year 19, the other 6'0) on the pre-explosion cap. So then after Kobe retires you got a 31 year old CP3 with one year left on his deal and all that cap room for who last summer? Bron ain't leaving a champion even for his man. KD ain't passing on Steph and co. for Chris. Maybe you get Derozan but then again even with Chris are the Lakers a better bet than his current squad? Not seeing how this window is extended or where this on the fly rebuild is coming in at. You telling me that CP3 on the wrong side of 30 at 6'0 with no guarantee that he stays himself and a bunch of ??? around him > a bunch of young talent and flexibility? That's like saying the Hornets at the time of the trade were better off than the Lakers now.
 

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For starters, an owner not bending over and actually putting their squads well being over adding to Laker lore =/= a screw job. The entitlement :mjlol:.

The rest of the stuff you said would make perfect sense if there wasn't...you know...actual evidence to the contrary. It's hilarious how people act like it's still 2011, like we haven't seen stuff play out since then. Kobe and Dwight just barely got the Lakers in the playoffs...you telling me CP3 (affectionately known as CP0 for his inability to get to the WCF with multiple max players around him) was the difference between that and a Finals run? Dwight still leaves because he most certainly doesn't get along with Kobe and CP3. That leaves a team with no cap room the first year and then a damn near $50 mil backcourt (one guy in year 19, the other 6'0) on the pre-explosion cap. So then after Kobe retires you got a 31 year old CP3 with one year left on his deal and all that cap room for who last summer? Bron ain't leaving a champion even for his man. KD ain't passing on Steph and co. for Chris. Maybe you get Derozan but then again even with Chris are the Lakers a better bet than his current squad? Not seeing how this window is extended or where this on the fly rebuild is coming in at. You telling me that CP3 on the wrong side of 30 at 6'0 with no guarantee that he stays himself and a bunch of ??? around him > a bunch of young talent and flexibility? That's like saying the Hornets at the time of the trade were better off than the Lakers now.
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But that's the logic of these teams. Every draft they think they're going to get the next Lebron. Those players only come around once in a generation.

Most franchises don't even have an identity. It's too star driven. Players now a days don't care as much because they're paid so well.

Take the Thunder for example. Why would a player like Kanter call out Westbrook for taking too many shots when he's making over 17 million this season :russ:

Oladipo is making 6 million :mindblown:

Winning use to equate to getting paid more bread but now you don't even have to win or be that great to :eat:
The NBA has always been star driven since George Mikan:camby:
 
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