“Drake didn’t push the red button yet.” - Mal says in a debate with DJ Hed.

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If you want to say both are biased sure, yes, of course. But one guy is living in reality and the other is so far out of bounds it's pure comedy. And expanding beyond this you can tell one guy has an actual relationship with the rapper he's defending while the other one is a dikk rider focused entirely on maintaining the access he has to a rapper/invites/tickets/parties/etc. It's the same shyt Mal and Rory been doing for a decade for Jay/Roc. Even being mad about the pedo thing is wild within the context of Mal celebrating a track where Drake calls Kendrick a wife beater lol
 

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Come on fam. Imagine someone arguing in 2002/2003 that Jay didn't lose the battle, Takeover had better rhymes, better beat, more impact etc. You'd laugh your ass off and recognize that as dikk riding. Hell many of us remember people making those very arguments.

Mal was the main offender on twitter hyping Family Matters as the red button. Now he's claiming it wasn't the red button. All while claiming Drake didn't lose, out rapped the other guy, had more impact etc. Come on.
Mal never said Family Matters had more impact. He always stood behind the bars. He said the Dave Free shyt wasn’t the red button. Not the full Family Matters. Let’s not act like DJ Hed wasn’t being disingenuous all thru the interview. Acting oblivious as to why Kendrick got that pop out show with Amazon. Acting mad that people ain’t come out for Kendrick publicly when the battle first started but acting like he didn’t understand the optics of cats that been cool wit Drake for years being at that pop out show and hopping on that stage. Flat out lying and saying Drake mentioned kids first. Overall. The entire interview was stupid cause it achieved absolutely nothing. No one had their mind changed. nikkas was both stanning. But DJ Hed was coming off not only bias but also condescending. Mal I expected to carry on worse than he did.
 

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Come on fam. Imagine someone arguing in 2002/2003 that Jay didn't lose the battle, Takeover had better rhymes, better beat, more impact etc. You'd laugh your ass off and recognize that as dikk riding. Hell many of us remember people making those very arguments.

Mal was the main offender on twitter hyping Family Matters as the red button. Now he's claiming it wasn't the red button. All while claiming Drake didn't lose, out rapped the other guy, had more impact etc. Come on.
Why can’t someone believe takeover is a better song without “dikk riding?
 

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Mal never said Family Matters had more impact. He always stood behind the bars. He said the Dave Free shyt wasn’t the red button. Not the full Family Matters. Let’s not act like DJ Hed wasn’t being disingenuous all thru the interview. Acting oblivious as to why Kendrick got that pop out show with Amazon. Acting mad that people ain’t come out for Kendrick publicly when the battle first started but acting like he didn’t understand the optics of cats that been cool wit Drake for years being at that pop out show and hopping on that stage. Flat out lying and saying Drake mentioned kids first. Overall. The entire interview was stupid cause it achieved absolutely nothing. No one had their mind changed. nikkas was both stanning. But DJ Hed was coming off not only bias but also condescending. Mal I expected to carry on worse than he did.
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Why can’t someone believe takeover is a better song without “dikk riding?
They can, nothing wrong with that. But just like with Family Matters, the most militant Takeover fans rely on some ridiculous talking points that just aren't true.

"Takeover was facts, Ether was lies"
"Takeover is a real diss, Ether is a bunch of jokes"
"Ether didn't have any bars"
"The beat ruins the song"

All that shyt has been repeated ad nauseum by the Hovenger Defense Force - Guru, Clark Kent (RIP), Mal, etc. Like I said if you fukk with Takeover more, that's fine. But I'm not letting you get away with arguing Nas only had one good/hot album by 2001, or "you made it a hot line I made it a hot song" or the publishing duck tales. I know you know I'm right @spliz lmao

And I feel the exact same way about Family Matters. It's the same type of arguments, where nikkas know they got cooked so they start whipping out legal technicalities. You say he out rapped Kendrick yet none of those amazing bars stuck. No one can deny that Takeover had some undeniable bars that people still quote today, regardless of the validity. Where's that for Family Matters? Drake has more memorable disses on that shyt aimed at Weeknd than Kenny. But because his camp is full of yes men nobody convinced him to focus on the ONE threat and ignore the sheep.
 

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They can, nothing wrong with that. But just like with Family Matters, the most militant Takeover fans rely on some ridiculous talking points that just aren't true.

"Takeover was facts, Ether was lies"
"Takeover is a real diss, Ether is a bunch of jokes"
"Ether didn't have any bars"
"The beat ruins the song"

All that shyt has been repeated ad nauseum by the Hovenger Defense Force - Guru, Clark Kent (RIP), Mal, etc. Like I said if you fukk with Takeover more, that's fine. But I'm not letting you get away with arguing Nas only had one good/hot album by 2001, or "you made it a hot line I made it a hot song" or the publishing duck tales. I know you know I'm right @spliz lmao

And I feel the exact same way about Family Matters. It's the same type of arguments, where nikkas know they got cooked so they start whipping out legal technicalities. You say he out rapped Kendrick yet none of those amazing bars stuck. No one can deny that Takeover had some undeniable bars that people still quote today, regardless of the validity. Where's that for Family Matters? Drake has more memorable disses on that shyt aimed at Weeknd than Kenny. But because his camp is full of yes men nobody convinced him to focus on the ONE threat and ignore the sheep.
But what if someone believes all of those things. Like what if someone hasn’t liked a Nas album in 20 years or thinks the Ether beat is trash.

They have a right to their opinions. It’s like dudes are bitter something is 100% supported. I 100% believe Mal Actually likes Family matters. He’s not playing some character.
 

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He didn’t say it was the only reason he “could” get a pop out. He said it was the reason he DID get a pop out. And anyone who thinks any different is fukking retarded. They absolutely capitalized off him being scorching hot off the beef and having a west coast anthem.
 

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He didn’t say it was the only reason he “could” get a pop out. He said it was the reason he DID get a pop out. And anyone who thinks any different is fukking retarded. They absolutely capitalized off him being scorching hot off the beef and having a west coast anthem.
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He didn’t say it was the only reason he “could” get a pop out. He said it was the reason he DID get a pop out. And anyone who thinks any different is fukking retarded. They absolutely capitalized off him being scorching hot off the beef and having a west coast anthem.

Thats what everybody involved was SUPPOSED to do. I don’t get how an established star artist releasing a mega hit song doing a televised concert could possibly be used against said artist or the company who sponsored it especially when the last time they sponsored that artist it ended in the biggest grossing hip hop had ever seen to that point.

So I don’t see how Mal pointing out that Kendrick & his team are great businessmen helps any of his arguments.
 

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But what if someone believes all of those things. Like what if someone hasn’t liked a Nas album in 20 years or thinks the Ether beat is trash.

They have a right to their opinions. It’s like dudes are bitter something is 100% supported. I 100% believe Mal Actually likes Family matters. He’s not playing some character.
You're missing the point

If you think takeover and family matters were more enjoyable songs that's one thing.

If you're trying to argue that those songs won the beef then you gotta accept that your opinion is not the general consensus.


Mal liking family matters isn't the problem, it's him claiming Drake really won the battle off family matters and acting like he couldn't remember kendrick's disses.
 
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They can, nothing wrong with that. But just like with Family Matters, the most militant Takeover fans rely on some ridiculous talking points that just aren't true.

"Takeover was facts, Ether was lies"
"Takeover is a real diss, Ether is a bunch of jokes"
"Ether didn't have any bars"
"The beat ruins the song"

All that shyt has been repeated ad nauseum by the Hovenger Defense Force - Guru, Clark Kent (RIP), Mal, etc. Like I said if you fukk with Takeover more, that's fine. But I'm not letting you get away with arguing Nas only had one good/hot album by 2001, or "you made it a hot line I made it a hot song" or the publishing duck tales. I know you know I'm right @spliz lmao

And I feel the exact same way about Family Matters. It's the same type of arguments, where nikkas know they got cooked so they start whipping out legal technicalities. You say he out rapped Kendrick yet none of those amazing bars stuck. No one can deny that Takeover had some undeniable bars that people still quote today, regardless of the validity. Where's that for Family Matters? Drake has more memorable disses on that shyt aimed at Weeknd than Kenny. But because his camp is full of yes men nobody convinced him to focus on the ONE threat and ignore the sheep.
I really dont understand why people dont like Takeover. It just SOUNDS better.
 
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