“Drake didn’t push the red button yet.” - Mal says in a debate with DJ Hed.

[spliz]

Thats what everybody involved was SUPPOSED to do. I don’t get how an established star artist releasing a mega hit song doing a televised concert could possibly be used against said artist or the company who sponsored it especially when the last time they sponsored that artist it ended in the biggest grossing hip hop had ever seen to that point.

So I don’t see how Mal pointing out that Kendrick & his team are great businessmen helps any of his arguments.

Mal literally said it’s a great business move. It was DJ Hed the one acting oblivious to the reason Kendrick got that show. Even Rory had to point out the connection between the city and the head of Amazon music. DJ Hed was being disingenuous the same way Mal was at some points. But people only pointing out Mal. DJ Hed was pretty much being a dikkhead thru the whole shyt.

 

[spliz]

I really dont understand why people dont like Takeover. It just SOUNDS better.

People love Takeover. I love Takeover. It just wasn’t a better diss track than Ether. Jay lost that beef. Fair and square. He even tried to cheat the win. The people and the city chose and voted. This is a completely different scenario tho. But yes. Drake lost this beef. No question about it. I just feel the beef overall was wack and corny. It was too many outside antics on both ends. And nothing was real. Just a whole bunch of bullshyt and lies. Kendrick made the catchiest song. Congrats for that I guess.

 

[Reptile]

They can, nothing wrong with that. But just like with Family Matters, the most militant Takeover fans rely on some ridiculous talking points that just aren't true.

"Takeover was facts, Ether was lies"
"Takeover is a real diss, Ether is a bunch of jokes"
"Ether didn't have any bars"
"The beat ruins the song"

The same thing you about Jay fans and Takeover I could easily say about Nas and Ether. Yall love acknowledging one hand and not the other. And the Ether beat is objectively terrible. Only a Nas groupie would say otherwise.

 

[Piff Perkins]

He didn’t say it was the only reason he “could” get a pop out. He said it was the reason he DID get a pop out. And anyone who thinks any different is fukking retarded. They absolutely capitalized off him being scorching hot off the beef and having a west coast anthem.

What's the point here? He dropped a hot song, he won a battle, a guy from Compton who worked at Amazon went to pgLang with the offer and they pulled it off. I'd also argue this doesn't happen if Kendrick wasn't already a top tier performer who already had a relationship with Amazon a year earlier with the Paris show, which was a big hit.

I've never seen a group of people sit around crying about xyz only happening because of a song. Yea...when you have the biggest song of the year you tend to get some opportunities, not sure what else to say my nikka.

 

[Street Knowledge]

You're missing the point

If you think takeover and family matters we're more enjoyable songs that's one thing.

If you're trying to argue that those songs won the beef then you gotta accept that your opinion is not the general consensus.


Mal liking family matters isn't the problem, it's him claiming Drake really won the battle off family matters and acting like he couldn't remember kendrick's disses.

If they think those songs were better and rap beefs should be decided on who had the better songs why can’t they think that?

Again, you guys are mad that something doesn’t have 100% conformity and any aspect of dissent needs to be snuffed out

 

[Reptile]

Ether is the better DISS, Takeover is the better SONG.

 

[spliz]

What's the point here? He dropped a hot song, he won a battle, a guy from Compton who worked at Amazon went to pgLang with the offer and they pulled it off. I'd also argue this doesn't happen if Kendrick wasn't already a top tier performer who already had a relationship with Amazon a year earlier with the Paris show, which was a big hit.

I've never seen a group of people sit around crying about xyz only happening because of a song. Yea...when you have the biggest song of the year you tend to get some opportunities, not sure what else to say my nikka.

The problem is that u nikkas saying Mal is being a dikkrider and excusing DJ Hed when DJ Hed couldn’t even admit this fact. It’s the picking and choosing. Both nikkas on that stage was some dikkriders. Only thing is in this interview. Mal was less emotional than usual. And DJ Hed was being a condescending dikkhead. To the point Rory and shorty had to defend Mal cause this nikka was on his condescending dikkhead shyt.

 

[spliz]

Ether is the better DISS, Takeover is the better SONG.

Yea and the better diss won.

 

[VegetasHairline]

Y'all really arguing over who is more or less of a dikk rider.

 

[Reptile]

Yea and the better diss won.

You Nas fans always gotta be so weird, Its not about who won, I was acknowledging the dynamics of the medium due to the conversation in the thread.

 

[spliz]

You Nas fans always gotta be so weird, Its not about who won, I was acknowledging the dynamics of the medium due to the conversation in the thread.

Ok

 

[Piff Perkins]

The problem is that u nikkas saying Mal is being a dikkrider and excusing DJ Hed when DJ Hed couldn’t even admit this fact. It’s the picking and choosing. Both nikkas on that stage was some dikkriders. Only thing is in this interview. Mal was less emotional than usual. And DJ Hed was being a condescending dikkhead. To the point Rory and shorty had to defend Mal cause this nikka was on his condescending dikkhead shyt.

Why shouldn't he be condescending to someone who has become a parody? I've never been a fan of Mal but let's be real: a couple years ago he was simply viewed as a rap opinion guy who happened to be a Hov stan. Rap wise he had pretty standard opinions: fukks with Griselda, fukks with Drake/Cole/Kendrick, Freddie Gibbs fan...basically all the standard shyt that would fit the Coli's general "late 30s/early 40s" demographics. Then suddenly last year he became the official spokesman for OVO, was getting disses previewed, hyping tracks, spreading rumors as fact ("Kendrick is waiting to release his diss on an album so it will sell") etc. What happened? It's obvious: a broke ass dusty nikka got a whiff of access and wouldn't do/say anything to jeopardize it.

This is why I keep bringing it back to Takeover. The ENTITLEMENT is on display because these people live in a world where there was no way their man could lose because of sales metrics and influence. So when that reality got shattered it broke their brains and we've been living with the consequences ever since. I know you see this with Nas. Prominent people will tell you they fukk with Nas and then say everything Jay said in Takeover was facts. Huh? How does that work.

The reason I break this convo is because I was VERY vocal about thinking Kendrick was vulnerable coming off Mr Morale, I felt he had declined as a rapper, and Drake (and Cole) were attacking at the most favorable time they've had in 12 years. And yet Kendrick still smoked Drake and Cole ended up Cheddar Bobbing himself. I'm a massive Kendrick stan and would have never expected that.

 

[Piff Perkins]

The same thing you about Jay fans and Takeover I could easily say about Nas and Ether. Yall love acknowledging one hand and not the other. And the Ether beat is objectively terrible. Only a Nas groupie would say otherwise.

I don't think the Ether beat is great but lets be real. The fact that it became a meme decades later AND was used again in a prominent rap battle decades later tells me that the general "casual rap" public does not view it like rap nerds do. Which further proves it was a cultural victory for Nas. YOUNG people literally hear the opening notes of that shyt and immediately think "uh oh somebody is about to get cooked." I rest my case.

 

[spliz]

Why shouldn't he be condescending to someone who has become a parody? I've never been a fan of Mal but let's be real: a couple years ago he was simply viewed as a rap opinion guy who happened to be a Hov stan. Rap wise he had pretty standard opinions: fukks with Griselda, fukks with Drake/Cole/Kendrick, Freddie Gibbs fan...basically all the standard shyt that would fit the Coli's general "late 30s/early 40s" demographics. Then suddenly last year he became the official spokesman for OVO, was getting disses previewed, hyping tracks, spreading rumors as fact ("Kendrick is waiting to release his diss on an album so it will sell") etc. What happened? It's obvious: a broke ass dusty nikka got a whiff of access and wouldn't do/say anything to jeopardize it.

This is why I keep bringing it back to Takeover. The ENTITLEMENT is on display because these people live in a world where there was no way their man could lose because of sales metrics and influence. So when that reality got shattered it broke their brains and we've been living with the consequences ever since. I know you see this with Nas. Prominent people will tell you they fukk with Nas and then say everything Jay said in Takeover was facts. Huh? How does that work.

The reason I break this convo is because I was VERY vocal about thinking Kendrick was vulnerable coming off Mr Morale, I felt he had declined as a rapper, and Drake (and Cole) were attacking at the most favorable time they've had in 12 years. And yet Kendrick still smoked Drake and Cole ended up Cheddar Bobbing himself. I'm a massive Kendrick stan and would have never expected that.

The nikka literally said people call him pretentious all the time in his personal life. And it shined thru. U gonna take the interview? Allegedly they say they cool wit each other. Just to be a dikkhead the whole way thru? The whole interview was pointless cause they both dikkriders for they side. And Mal is one of the biggest dikkriders on the internet. So I’m not even defending him. But I’m just pointing out something happening in this interview that most people ain’t gonna point out. Honestly Rory said the best thing in this whole interview. The battle was terrible for hip hop. And I agree 1000%.

 

[GeeEffKay]

Aubrey didn’t lose the battle, the battle lost him!!

Have ovhoe mal and ak as your mouthpieces brehs