Drake takes Shots at Joe Budden on new French Montana Single

[wingstop]

Baby, she got OPTIONS!

this is what i came up with

"took your girl, had her swimming with dolphins
M.I.A you left the boy with no options"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

nikkas really made a thread off this?

 

[T-K-G]

Let's not forget that Meek was a battle rapper, how's he doing

a garbage battle rapper

 

[okgoodnotgreat]

but you can take a rapper who names his album "I'm Gay" serious?

 

[Serious]

the problem with joe, is he'd take this shyt entirely too seriously, and that would be his first mistake... this ain't 1998 no more.. the fans aren't picking up your music from the mixtape nikka at the barbershop, then playing it back 155 times, while discussing it with all the nikkas in the world


it's 2016... you try that, let me rap over a beat, go in 150%, and lyrically murder this guy.... it'll get dropped on some blogs on monday, talked about on twitter on tuesday, nobody will care by wednesday and by thursday we will be talking about the next subject and nobody will care.......................................................... UNTIL


drake playfully raps and sings on some track, complete with a hook and ASCAP registration, sends it to actual radio stations, and has some funny jokes, one liners, and catchy shyt to keep his shyt on burn for a whole season



to beat drake, you've got to beat him at his own game.. which is going to be hard to do when you don't have access to the radio and machine like he does... your diss gonna go to datpiff.com and his gonna go to top 20 on billboard

I still smh at people trying tell me back to back was good song....a diss song at that wtf

 

[Hyperion]

No, the problem is with new nikka hip hop fans that don't take this shyt seriously enough.

You see these cacs have already watered down R&B to the point that they're now making shyt better than black R&B artists today.

Now, we have two black female R&B type artists making any type of noise on the mainstream circuit, when there used to be like 50 at a time.

At the same time, there's a new cac female singer being introduced to the masses every week making R&B music that they call Pop, strictly because of their skin color.

It used to be that you had to be able to SING to make R&B records, but when that element got taken out of the equation, it opened the door for any lil cac that can carry a note and mimic choreography to step in and make the same type of records, get instant fame, TV spots, major label deals, and push black artists out of the way.

What do you think they're gonna do with hip hop?

We held the key to hip hop because you had to be able to RAP your ass off to make it. Eminem blew because he was the first white rapper that could actually RAP on par with black artists.

Nowadays, all you have to be able to do is flow and swag your way on a track in order to make it. You think cacs can't mimic that simple shyt? shyt, Fergie and Gwen Stefanie was able to do that in the early '00s.

Pretty soon that hip hop money is gonna dry up for nikkas because cacs are gonna take that shyt and run with it, and the masses are gonna eat that shyt up and stop spending money with black artists that they really can't relate to. It's already starting.

That's the battle Joe was ranting about.

It's about to get real spooky for nikkas from the hood thinking they're gonna just up and decide to be a rapper one day, and pull their families out the hood, and they don't even realize it.

This is why I have always held the ability to rap so high in my books. I mean, look what's going on with Future and Desiigner. Dude probably watched a Busy Works Beats tutorial on sounding like Future, recorded right after, and the rest is history. And I think that's the nikka's first song, too.

So if someone like Desiigner can blow up off of someone else's style, who's to say they can't take a Slim Jesus-looking kid and spin him into that? We can't. But... The only issue is that it's not as easy as it sounds, because they've tried to do so with Iggy and Kreayshawn (remember her? ) and failed. Even white Hip Hop fans would toss rappers like that in the bushes. Labels are very patient, though. They've got people combing blogs and all music streaming platforms for that next opportunity. Will they succeed? That depends on the culture.

I'm not too worried about this though, because I don't see a white rapper replacing Kendrick, Drake and Cole. They're too established in where they are for some white kid from Utah to come and upstage them like that. Said rapper would have to be extremely talented, and even then, at most they'd just add him to the three and call the group the Four Titans or some shyt. Drake's afloat because of his uncanny ability to crank out hit after hit, Kendrick is where he is because he can actually rap and is willing to take his music left-field, and Cole is safe because he's the most relatable and the Dreamville fan base will ride for him like no one else. If there's anyone who should be scared, it's the rappers who are easily imitated. Those are the ones they're gonna go for first.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Buddens was most def an influence

"If I copy Budden's flow, you mimickin' his career"

Budden randomly caught a lil ether splash years ago during an early beef drake had. ..joe should have dissed way back off the strength of that

 

[tuckgod]

I'm not too worried about this though, because I don't see a white rapper replacing Kendrick, Drake and Cole. They're too established in where they are for some white kid from Utah to come and upstage them like that. Said rapper would have to be extremely talented, and even then, at most they'd just add him to the three and call the group the Four Titans or some shyt. Drake's afloat because of his uncanny ability to crank out hit after hit, Kendrick is where he is because he can actually rap and is willing to take his music left-field, and Cole is safe because he's the most relatable and the Dreamville fan base will ride for him like no one else. If there's anyone who should be scared, it's the rappers who are easily imitated. Those are the ones they're gonna go for first.

I feel you on this, but where are the rappers stepping up after Kendrick, Drake, Wale and Cole?

Them nikkas are damn near status now, and the generation coming up after them seem to dislike them strictly because of the fact that they actually care about their music and it's substance.

That's who I'm focused on, the new generation of hip hop fans/artists entering their late teens/early 20s.

We just may be living in a time where the rappers we're discussing are the last of a lineage of emcees that hip hop has prided itself on since the inception of the culture.

Looking at these new "rappers", the future does not look promising.

 

[Ayo]

I dislike Drake as much as the next 90's hip hop head.

But if a Joe Budden falls in the woods.... does anyone care?

 

[spliz]

nikkas buggin if they think Drake can see Budden on some rap shyt. His Ghostwriters ain't even fukkin wit Budden. But I don't wanna see this battle. It's worthless.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I still smh at people trying tell me back to back was good song....a diss song at that wtf

it was trash... full of a lot of ducktales too... but it had a catchy easy hook, he turned it into radio, and had one memorable line (bodied by a singing nikka)


now meek can go in over the damn ether beat with 100 bars and nobody will care... and no its not timing.. if he dropped it the next day, nobody would care

cause all these fickle fans would have stopped playing it after the first minute, saying it's too long and too rapity rap rap... and it would never be played on any type of radio or featured anywhere... and by weeks end, it would have disappeared




you gotta diss different in this age.. you gotta make something that's going to catch on and last longer than a week... i can't even really remember ANY battle tracks since mixtapes died off... cause they gone from the blogs in a week and nobody is talking about them after a day

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

This is why I have always held the ability to rap so high in my books. I mean, look what's going on with Future and Desiigner. Dude probably watched a Busy Works Beats tutorial on sounding like Future, recorded right after, and the rest is history. And I think that's the nikka's first song, too.

So if someone like Desiigner can blow up off of someone else's style, who's to say they can't take a Slim Jesus-looking kid and spin him into that? We can't. But... The only issue is that it's not as easy as it sounds, because they've tried to do so with Iggy and Kreayshawn (remember her? ) and failed. Even white Hip Hop fans would toss rappers like that in the bushes. Labels are very patient, though. They've got people combing blogs and all music streaming platforms for that next opportunity. Will they succeed? That depends on the culture.

I'm not too worried about this though, because I don't see a white rapper replacing Kendrick, Drake and Cole. They're too established in where they are for some white kid from Utah to come and upstage them like that. Said rapper would have to be extremely talented, and even then, at most they'd just add him to the three and call the group the Four Titans or some shyt. Drake's afloat because of his uncanny ability to crank out hit after hit, Kendrick is where he is because he can actually rap and is willing to take his music left-field, and Cole is safe because he's the most relatable and the Dreamville fan base will ride for him like no one else. If there's anyone who should be scared, it's the rappers who are easily imitated. Those are the ones they're gonna go for first.

i saw it all the time... rap is just different.. yea you can pull that shyt with r&b and pop.. but rap, you still need that stamp, that co-sign, that HISTORY of putting in some type of work


there have been 10000 white rappers we could name.. about 5 have had success... beastie boys, vanilla ice, em, 3rd base and maybe another... paul wall or something... not counting 1 hit wonders


they all had a cosign that they were "real rappers" and knew the struggle and were vouched for.. but even so, half of those lasted 2 albums and disappeared (ice, paul, 3rd base) and beastie pretty much became a rock hybrid



that white shyt ain't working cause in hip hop, they still look to us to determine what's ok and what's not.. there would be too many LEGENDS and current rappers who would shut down bullshyt artists (see slim jesus) before they could get 2-3 albums of success... iggy can't even make her 2nd album cause nikkas combined to shyt on her... white people followed suit like "damn nikkas don't like her, fukk her"



every other genre, r&b included, doesn't work that way... well actually we don't know.. cause beyonce and 50 other singers, won't all show up in interviews, shytting on taylor swift and calling her fake and bullshyt.. they just don't say shyt, or go a step farther and give her praise.

but rap.... nah you not getting by in rap once the industry says you about some bullshyt... if the whole industry would have sided with 50 and shyt on rick ross, he'd be gone too and he's black.. they just all took up for him like "yea but its a job... i knew co's that got down... yea everyone embellishes" and he got the pass

 

[HiiiPower]

He apologized after Joe surrendered
Lil B destroyed that mans whole existence on that record

His career
his simpish ways
his personal life

everything

Lil B destroyed that nikka on wax

The fact u arguing this tells me u some Joe budden stan

"How u go mainstream and run back underground"
"Shut the fck up with them depressing ass songs
Its the summer time get some p*ssy and go home"

"Go make a mixtape and mope over every song
Keep recording girlfriends bet you still jack off
With your butt-cheeks out listening to mood music
Screaming, "Lil B why the fukk you gotta ether me""

You really think the guy whos been baiting jay z for a battle damn near his entire career was being genuine when he said he surrendered? Dude was clowning the entire situation on Twitter as it was happening, far from a Stan I'm just saying how I remember, the diss had some funny (and true) lines but to try and make it out to be some earth shattering etherous diss track is stupid lol

 

[HiiiPower]

Buddens was most def an influence

"If I copy Budden's flow, you mimickin' his career"

Budden randomly caught a lil ether splash years ago during an early beef drake had. ..joe should have dissed way back off the strength of that

Joe brought that up in that joebuddentv video with drake years ago and drake backtracked like a motherfukker lol

 

[FreshAIG]