Drew Brees retires

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Brady, Manning, Montana, Marino, Young off the top of my head are ahead of him. Brees is maybe top 10 and even that is tough.

Steve Young? :mjlol:

Nah Drew is def top 10, I will relent if people don't have him top 5 though. That's cool. General fans will put him top 5 for the foreseeable future even tho Mahomes gonna come and bump him and Rodgers off that. Brady, Montana, and Manning are etched in the top 3.

But to not think he's top 10 is pretty crazy. Thankfully, the general populous acknowledges that.
 

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Nah he's def top 10, I will relent if people don't have him top 5 though. That's cool. General fans will put him top 5 though even tho Mahomes gonna come and bump him and Rodgers off that. Brady, Montana, and Manning are etched in the top 3.

But to not think he's top 10 is pretty crazy. Thankfully, the general populous acknowledges that.

You can make a case for others ahead of him, but I won't argue against top 10 too hard.
 

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You can make a case for others ahead of him, but I won't argue against top 10 too hard.
Everyone you listed but Steve Young, yes. I'm willing to relent those four even though (I'm clearly bias) I think Brees career was better than Marino's.
 

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where was the mark? in the OP video?
I’m lost breh. What am I looking at?
His football jersey?
Yes. Look at jersey trifecta of the 3 boys symbolizing the mark of the beast, bookended by the girl wearing no jersey # which is likely a reference to the whore of Babylon

Classic subliminal imagery of Babylon culture. It’s just a tease to spectators that are aware of the cultural practices these famous people participate in behind closed doors.
 

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Brady, Manning, Montana, Marino, Young off the top of my head are ahead of him. Brees is maybe top 10 and even that is tough.

Most modern publications rank Brees over Marino and Young. Theres no way in hell its "tough" to consider Brees a Top 10 QB...

This board overrates the shyt outta Steve Young, he's the updated version of Staubach. Young basically has an 8-year window (1991-98) in a 15-year total career, that he was great. Older heads and nostalgia ranks him higher than he should be, he's an All-Timer but Brees nearly doubled his longevity as an elite player, and was an even more prolific passer...

Aint no way Brees is ranked lower than a guy who started a full season only three times, a guy who was a backup and/or ass half his career, a guy who was perennially injured. Yall tripping...

The argument can definitely be made that Brees is Top 5 and aint no Dan Marino or Steve fukking Young the ones standing in his way of Top 5 contention...
 

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Everyone you listed but Steve Young, yes. I'm willing to relent those four even though (I'm clearly bias) I think Brees career was better than Marino's.

Marino only won his division five times in 17 seasons, compared to Brees being an 8x division winner in 20 seasons; Marino once missed the postseason 4x in a row despite how dominant of a thrower he purportedly was, while Brees missed the playoffs 3 years in a row once...

Brees absolutely had the greater career and at his peak i think they have comparable levels of dominance. This board just loves anything old and overrates it to no end...
 

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Marino only won his division five times in 17 seasons, compared to Brees being an 8x division winner in 20 seasons; Marino once missed the postseason 4x in a row despite how dominant of a thrower he purportedly was, while Brees missed the playoffs 3 years in a row once...

Brees absolutely had the greater career and at his peak i think they have comparable levels of dominance. This board just loves anything old and overrates it to no end...
These stats you just posted aren’t moving the needle. I’d give Drew the nod but for anyone who had Marino over him, this wasn’t convincing.
 

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These stats you just posted aren’t moving the needle. I’d give Drew the nod but for anyone who had Marino over him, this wasn’t convincing.

Cool, I'm just saying I'm unconvinced Marino was the better player. People throw these older guys' names out there all the time, like you're supposed to just accept those dudes as better...

Steve Young, I mean, really? What quarterback skill did he do better than Drew Brees? And Marino, had all the talent but wasn't a huge winner, the WINNING component kinda matters as a quarterback...
 

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See this why 2018 will always trigger me.

nikkas gonna always say "get over it" all the while using only 1 Super Bowl as ammo when trying to discredit us/Brees. :sadcam:
Even if they made the correct call against the Rams are we guaranteeing that they beat New England in the Super Bowl?

Cuz as you remember that game vs the Rams went into OT, and y’all shyt the bed
 

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Cool, I'm just saying I'm unconvinced Marino was the better player. People throw these older guys' names out there all the time, like you're supposed to just accept those dudes as better...

Steve Young, I mean, really? What quarterback skill did he do better than Drew Brees? And Marino, had all the talent but wasn't a huge winner, the WINNING component kinda matters as a quarterback...
Steve Young was definitely a greater dual threat QB than Brees was and the GOAT lefty. For his time was just as dominant and efficient throwing the ball

Let’s put some respect on dude’s name
 

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Marino only won his division five times in 17 seasons, compared to Brees being an 8x division winner in 20 seasons; Marino once missed the postseason 4x in a row despite how dominant of a thrower he purportedly was, while Brees missed the playoffs 3 years in a row once...

Brees absolutely had the greater career and at his peak i think they have comparable levels of dominance. This board just loves anything old and overrates it to no end...
It's all a cycle.

20 years from now there will be a QB who is arguably/is better all time than Brees but Brees will have that old nostalgia going for him and then people will be arguing "He's good but to put him above Brees? Ha!"
 

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Steve Young was definitely a greater dual threat QB than Brees was and the GOAT lefty. For his time was just as dominant and efficient throwing the ball

Let’s put some respect on dude’s name

I acknowledge all of that; what I don't acknowledge to the same degree is the running aspect because it is not required to be an elite runner or mover to be an All-Time quarterback. We literally have tons of examples...

So when I talk about QB skillsets, the rushing is on the backburner, I'm talking about the plays a QB can make with his arm. They are more or less equal there...

But my major point is Young gets elevated off of a magical 8-year run, he's basically Staubach or even a semi pre-Warner. Half his career he was on the pine or ass and he missed a LOT of games...

He was great. He wasn't so great that he should be placed in the same bracket as a guy who doubled his longevity, far exceeded his durability, and broke his standards for passing efficiency...
 
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