Dwight Howard is tired of people sucking off Rudy Gobert

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The numbers and analytics speak for themselves when it comes to him being and elite defender, but people like to pick and choose when that applies depending on the player being discussed :yeshrug:

LMAO

ELITE DEFENDER WHO BECOMES
UNPLAYABLE IN THE POST SEASON
AND OLYMPICS


:devil:
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Rudy's defense has been shytted on for a minute now, where it's hard to tell if he's actually become underrated, as a result.

Dwight's reasoning for Gobert not being an elite defender is hilarious though. He essentially shytted on himself, and every single big man that can only protect the paint/rim. To that point though, I think Gobert has been unfairly criticized for his lack of ability to defend in space (in relation to his DPOYs), because plenty of former winners of the award couldn't defend in space either, or conversely, guards/wings who've won the award couldn't protect the paint at an elite level.

I guess this is more reflective of how far defensively the game has come where even great defenders can have the perception of their defensive value under question if their flaws are exposed. Nobody questions Mark Eaton's DPOYs because he wasn't being dragged out to defend high-level guard play to have his flaws put on the proverbial screen.

Take this for example -

I know cats would be quick to use this against Gobert to say he's overrated, but Luka would cook every single cotdamn big man that's ever won DPOY in this situation: Eaton, Dream, Mutumbo, Ben, Camby, Dwight, Chandler, Gasol etc. It doesn't matter, he would make stars out of all of them in sequels of Bambi On Ice.
 

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LMAO

ELITE DEFENDER WHO BECOMES
UNPLAYABLE IN THE POST SEASON
AND OLYMPICS



:devil:
:evil:




Multiple things can be true.

He can be an elite defender in the regular season and his style of play doesn’t carry over into the playoffs or the Olympics.

Unless you’d like to sit here and pretend that label hasn’t been put on other players before.

DPOY is a regular season award for a reason.
 

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Multiple things can be true.

He can be an elite defender in the regular season and his style of play doesn’t carry over into the playoffs or the Olympics.

Unless you’d like to sit here and pretend that label hasn’t been put on other players before.

DPOY is a regular season award for a reason.
so he's an elite defender when it works for him

but not for the team that counts on him for elite defense when they need it

yeah he can hold that criticism until he beats it fr.... didn't take france long at all to realize what's somehow contentious elsewhere

like cmon now. he's got away with being a situational DPOY - and with dwight's name in this kind of dialogue too? yeah its kind of ridiculous that people get consistently obtuse about certain stuff when it comes to rudy.
 

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so he's an elite defender when it works for him

but not for the team that counts on him for elite defense when they need it

yeah he can hold that criticism until he beats it fr.... didn't take france long at all to realize what's somehow contentious elsewhere

like cmon now. he's got away with being a situational DPOY - and with dwight's name in this kind of dialogue too? yeah its kind of ridiculous that people get consistently obtuse about certain stuff when it comes to rudy.
He's an elite regular season defender, whose performance doesn't carry over into the playoffs.

We've clowned other people for the same exact thing and Rudy isn't the exception to that. Are we really going to pretend like we haven't said the same thing about other players before and only making it into a Rudy thing?


Situation DPOY or not, he still won those awards so people should have more energy and vitrol for the voters and not the player themselves.
 

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Gobert being "unplayable" in the playoffs is largely because he doesn't have the offensive game to really make an imprint. Look around, there aren't too many players his size who are playable in the playoffs in today's game. The ones that are, are almost entirely players who have some notable offensive value. Whatever shortcomings folks think he has on defense in the playoffs are amplified only because he doesn't do shyt on the other end.

His rim/paint protection doesn't just suddenly fall off in the playoffs.
 

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He's an elite regular season defender, whose performance doesn't carry over into the playoffs.

We've clowned other people for the same exact thing and Rudy isn't the exception to that. Are we really going to pretend like we haven't said the same thing about other players before and only making it into a Rudy thing?


Situation DPOY or not, he still won those awards so people should have more energy and vitrol for the voters and not the player themselves.
elite in the regular season :skip: kinda rare for a multiple DPOY award winner but that's all anyone's honest has ever said

and compare him to the other players who have multiple DPOY awards at the same position - no one with any sense takes rudy over any of them
 
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