Five star thread. I would have add off the top of my head Blueprint, GRODT, Stankonia, Lord Willin', In Search of (Neptunes, and yes its hiphop), and I know the purists gon' hate on me for sayin' this, but that Thug Motivation 101

The only one I'd take off the list is Salt N Pepa
that salt n pepa jawn is better than all those albums you just listed.
You been sayin' all thru the thread they're "biased"... how's it not your argument?

That's why I added the part about a stylistic bias, and even in that case, that wouldn't explain how they praised the fukk outta dudes like Too Short and Quik. I've never listened to a song by them expecting to hear some Rakim-level shyt... totally different thing...
The Benzino-dominated era is when he started doin' that power-abusing shyt like the 4.5 for Made Men... and then puttin' himself on the cover like somebody was gonna buy that... and then making the whole mag a glorified tabloid with the anti-Aftermath articles, puttin nikkas on the cover that werent even in the actual articles, pushin' the Benzino agenda, all that kinda shyt. I can't say it was trash when he did that ratings bullshyt ('99), but that was the start... around '02 until he got moved out tho'? Trash.
they praise just about everybody. but to what extent?
shoot, the late '90/early '00s was my favorite time for the source. i even went and got a subscription for a few years. i couldnt get into the whole elitist vibe that the source had. and apparently, neither could alot of people. thats why you had other mags coming out that clearly took an alternative stance to what the source stood for. i felt like the source kinda nipped alot of that in the bud once the late '90s hit. i always figured that thats when benzino started taking over. PROPS. i know he was stopping some of that nerd chit in its tracks back in the mid-90s too.
and hey, im not thrilled about the made men fiasco, but at the end of the day, that album was just as good and/or better than some of the stuff that got 5 mics imo. so hell, if thats his group and he co-owned the magazine, then why the hell not give yourself 4 1/2 atfer all that?? f*ck it.
as for the anti-aftermath(more like anti-interscope), i cosign that stuff completely. it needed to be said, and he was finally the one that stepped up and put his money where his mouth was while everybody else either stood silent or were coooning. i dont care if he had ulterior motives or not either. dude put his livelihood on the line so the possibility of ulterior motives is neither here nor there. you call it a tabloid pushing agendas but i bet you aint say nothing when xxl capitalize by turning into aftermath monthly and continued its unapologetic coooning for the next decade - even crowning macklemore as the hottest rapper in the game recently.

if yall wouldve listened to benzino, this wouldve never happened. but instead, yall were too concerned with the messenger, rather than the actual message.
and honestly based on album and impact etc... i gotta cut AEOM for makavel and me against the world
some might cut me against for AEOM depends on the person really
but again he has 2 albums on the top 100 of all time
think about this
jay only has 1 and in 98 he should have had RD and vol 2 to be real but vol 2 dropped september 98 so kinda late for that entry to be fair
nas has 1 and again should be 2 with illmatic and IWW to be real
mobb deep same thing
bone same thing
etc..
so if you look at the list 2pac is among the ELITE acts with 2 or more albums on the list
its tough to eliminate down to a top 100 list of all time for any genere
feelings will be hurt with what hits the cutting floor
the bolded is the problem. why should any of them have to drop? all 3 of those pac albums shouldve made it. they put a quota over his head like i said. they had to give LL his 3 slots. i dig. but they know dam well they aint have to put tribe, epmd or even public enemy up there 3 times.
of course jay is only up there once. he only had 2 albums, and 1 of them was brand-spanking new at the time and was considered a huge bust on top of that. and volume 2 didnt exist at the time dog.
of couse IWW wasnt on there.
you compaing IWW & hell on earth to e.99 eternal?
groups like the roots and outkast are on there just as much as pac, and more than nwa, bone, etc. if thats not bias, then i dont know what is.
You're comparing the modern consensus of RD to what the consensus was in '96.
Nobody put it on the level of Amerikkkas Most back then.Not only that, you could make the argument that Dogg Pound was held in higher regard back then.
This list was made in '98...during that time, Dogg Food was definitely fukking with RD.Because Jay went on to become one of the top 5 MC's of all time(in terms of popularity), people looked back in retrospect, and started calling RD a classic.
I can see why they did it, though.'98 was the year Jay blew up.They was thirsty for the next "King of NY" and Jay was the pefect prospect.Boys with B.I.G...similar slick style of rapping---I think they decided to throw him a bone.
I wasn't using reverse racism as a literal term, but as an analogy to the "white privilege" that is east coast media bias.
All i'm saying is, if you created a public poll in '98 asking "RD or Dogg Food?" At the time, I'd be shocked if Dogg Food lost.During that stretch('96-'98) Dogg Food outsold/was a more popular album.
RD was lukewarm.Like I said, if Jay was from Oakland, RD wouldn't have been on the list.He wouldn't have gotten the benefit of the doubt.
theres nothing retrospect about reasonable doubt. the only different between then & now is that the mainstream latched onto jay-z since then. dogg food was never held in higher regard.
its like
@DANJ! said. and not only was it a critical smash, but it was a huge album on the streets up top and it had hit records. "aint no niqqa" was bigger than any dogg pound single. and im not knocking dogg pound at all. i was a bigger fan of them back then, than i probably ever was of jay-z. and alot of people will prolly detract from dogg pound's sales and say that they got a boost from being under death row, as opposed to jay who had his own thing and was indie.
as far as the "being thirsty for the next king of ny" thing goes, youre over-looking 2 things:
1.) jay was seen as a potential future suitor for the throne off the back of reasonable doubt. so he wouldve been seen as a contender for "king of ny" by this point regardless of whether biggie was still alive or not. even 2pac knew what was up.
2.) by the time this list came out, jay had already released volume 1 and dropped the ball. im sure they had already reviewed the record in a previous issue. by the time this hit the stands, people were writing jay-z off. nobody knew he would close the year out the way he did with volume 2.
if jay was from oakland, or california in general, why wouldnt he be on the list? pharcyde is up there. souls of mischief is up there.