The 90s are over and never coming back. That feeling will never be restored. Y’all are going to have to accept that and move on with your lives
Educate me...what has changed in the NBA that scoring is so high?
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The 90s are over and never coming back. That feeling will never be restored. Y’all are going to have to accept that and move on with your lives
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This right here (timestamped):
On top of everything people here have said, throw in lenient moving screens and what is a defender really to do?!
Seriously, watching the last few minutes of that video explains nearly everything about modern scoring.
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I think we've lost rim protectors in the game. The obsession with having a center who can move his feet and guard guards on the perimeter has made rim protection a secondary skill.
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Were centers cutting to the basket off the ball the way Looney did? Or Power Forwards diving in, off the ball from the perimeter like Draymond? That wasn’t common back then, along with the passing. Most centers weren’t trusted with the ball back then. You had David Robinson and Hakeem and Shaq, but Stanley Roberts or Benoit Benjamin or Joe Kline werent trusted like that.Centers couldn’t pass now apparently
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That’s largely down to those centers not being able to do anything but stand and be vertical.
Roy Hibbert went from great defensive center to bench player to out the nba in four seasons with no injury.
His 80s and 90s and even aughts clone would still be in the NBA now drawing six fouls.
It's most likely a lot more complex that these hot-takes at least.
It's most likely a combination of a lot of different factors, not least being better shooters and more skilled (as is the case in every sport, except that old head basketball fans like to act like basketball is the only sport where this development isn't possible. Like we had centers moving like PGs before. Or dudes dropping 3s like free throws or balls stuck to their hands like it was glue to them pause).
One could perhaps also check what the Europeans say about the Euro leagues.
Over there it seems like the energy management over a season isn't as timely planned as in the NBA, therefore the players defend, move and run like there's no tomorrow. The fans are wilder too, giving more distractions. But of course, you've got to combine that with the fact that they aren't nearly as skilled.
And then again, there's countless of other reasons like rules and soft refs, or formations not including pure defenders with one focus.
Another thing one has to analyze was the ppg drop from the 70s and 80s to the 90s.
But it seems like as if, with all these various reasons, the old heads will never attribute it partly to skills.
It's a lot more complex, that these twitter one lines cats be dropping.
It's most likely a combination of a lot of different factors, not least being better shooters and more skilled (as is the case in every sport, except that old head basketball fans like to act like basketball is the only sport where this development isn't possible. Like we had centers moving like PGs before. Or dudes dropping 3s like free throws or balls stuck to their hands like it was glue to them pause).
One could perhaps also check what the Europeans say about the Euro leagues.
Over there it seems like the energy management over a season isn't as timely planned as in the NBA, therefore the players defend, move and run like there's no tomorrow. The fans are wilder too, giving more distractions. But of course, you've got to combine that with the fact that they aren't nearly as skilled.
And then again, there's countless of other reasons like rules and soft refs, or formations not including pure defenders with one focus.
Another thing one has to analyze was the ppg drop from the 70s and 80s to the 90s.
But it seems like as if, with all these various reasons, the old heads will never attribute it partly to skills.
It's a lot more complex, that these twitter one lines cats be dropping.
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Agreed, but analytics tells people that rudy gobert isn't a multiple DPOY and one of the greatest defensive players in the game's history but instead a liability.
Meanwhile you got teams drafting guys like James Wiseman in the top 5 because of his switchability and finesse but he can barely stay in games because he ain't stopping shyt on defense.
I've seen Andre Drummond put in work in games both offensively, protecting the rim and rebounding but he gives up one jumpshot on a switch on a guard and he's benched immediately.
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I don't know but we got a Euro Plumber and Construction worker at 1/2 in the MVP Race right now 
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mastermind
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That is fair, but I think analytics is actually seeing Gobert for his value. He is the best drop center of all time and is a defensive floor raiser.
Gobert is an example of people being on the "back in my day" shyt too because he gets hated on for being a superior version of the stiff big men they liked back in the 90s.
I think a guy like Drummond was born in the wrong era. He is a traditional NBA big man but his issue is he is really good in one area on offense and defense.
Even though I love today's NBA, I do think they should crack down harder on traveling and dribbling.
Back in what day? Defense is more focused on defending the 3pt line than ever before, it's just harder now because 4-5 shooters are spread out across the entire court and firing from well behind the line so there's far more territory to protect.
Until the 1990s they didn't even guard the 3pt line until late the game, you can watch early 1990s finals games and see even guards getting straight laid off of until they drove inside the line.
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I mean when the official NBA twitter posting stuff like this, and you say player movement hasn't changed, then I don't know what to tell you.
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