Educators no longer need a college degree to begin teaching in Arizona public schools

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Nobody is considering how all these new hires will quit as soon as something better comes along because there's little investment now. Most new teachers who actually go the traditional pathway leave within 5 years. This isn't good at all. Students need consistency and people trained and dedicated for the work.

But since wages are so low, good luck retaining the teachers who really care about the students and their futures.
 

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There's a shyt ton of money in Arizona, it's not like it's a poor state. Just tax the rich, pay teachers what they're worth, give them respect as a profession, and you'll be fine.
If you try to tax the rich they'll just move to a different state. I think they should do like other state and just hire teachers from the Philippines
 

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If you try to tax the rich they'll just move to a different state. I think they should do like other state and just hire teachers from the Philippines



At best it's a stop-gap from complete disaster. We need to look for real long-term solutions not just constant stop-gaps.
 
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idk, stop giving BILLIONS to police departments and divert even a fraction of that to the Public School system?


Nah man, when even the bootlickers in here have 100% swallowed the narrative that police are solely responsible for stopping crime and any increase in crime rates automatically means you better start doubling police budgets?

There's a thread today about a gang of kids who murdered some old guy and posters were seriously blaming "liberal government" for it, as if police failing to make enough arrests suddenly makes kids want to kill old people.
 

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Teacher: If I got 6 teeth on the bottom 'n 7 teeth up top, how many teeth do I have?

Kid: 13!

Teacher: Good job! You could teach this class!

Kid: Maybe I will.........maybe I will.
 

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Idiocracy was not supposed to be an instruction manual.
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho is going to win the 28 elections at the rate we’re going :mjcry:

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I’m torn, America has a terrible educational system/way of teaching, the majority of our colleges are trash anyway so it’s not like these people are guaranteed to be intelligent just because they got a piece of paper, and college degrees don’t guarantee a teacher is good or actually cares…I don’t think it should be removed but degrees aren’t currently guaranteeing any type of standards in public education/teaching :ld:
 

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The Gainesville Sun

Veterans can now teach in Florida with no degree. School leaders say it 'lowers the bar'​


Gershon Harrell, The Gainesville Sun
Fri, July 22, 2022 at 11:23 AM·3 min read


A potential solution to a statewide teacher shortage issue has education leaders feeling as though Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration is undermining the qualifications of classroom instructors.
Last week, the Florida Department of Education announced that military veteran, as well as their spouses, would receive a five-year voucher that allows them to teach in the classroom despite not receiving a degree to do so. It's a move tied to the $8.6 million the state announced would be used to expand career and workforce training opportunities for military veterans and their spouses.
"There are many people who have gone through many hoops and hurdles to obtain a proper teaching certificate," said Carmen Ward, president of the Alachua County teachers union. "(Educators) are very dismayed that now someone with just a high school education can pass the test and can easily get a five-year temporary certificate."
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On June 9, the Florida Legislature passed a bill that gave the approval for military members, both former and present, and their spouses to teach. Reserve military members count, as well.
A Fort Clarke Middle School teacher holds a sign to gather his students for the start of the first day of school on Aug. 31. [Brad McClenny/The Gainesville Sun]

A Fort Clarke Middle School teacher holds a sign to gather his students for the start of the first day of school on Aug. 31. [Brad McClenny/The Gainesville Sun]
Teacher candidates must have a minimum of 60 college credits with a 2.5 GPA, and also must receive a passing score on the FLDOE subject area examination for bachelor’s level subjects.
Veterans must have a minimum of 48 months of military service completed with honorable/medical discharge. If hired by a school district, they have to have a teaching mentor.
School board members expressed their distaste for the new law at a recent workshop where the details were presented.
Tina Certain said she feels like the bill lowers the bar for educators.
"It's not that I'm against the service that veterans provide to our country," she said. "I just think that to the education profession, we're lowering the bar on that and minimizing the criteria of what it takes to enter the profession."
Certain also made clear that she doesn't want the district to push those teachers all to lower-performing schools on the east side of Gainesville.
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Rob Hyatt, while expressing his frustration, appeared to be more optimistic.
"Unfortunately, we, like all other school districts, are experiencing a very real shortage," he said. "I think that this legislation is a reaction to the fact … I have confidence in our HR department to make the best out of this."
The district currently has more than 60 teaching vacancies. Since the law passed, no veterans or spouses have applied to the school district for a job, spokeswoman Jackie Johnson said.
"But if someone were to contact us expressing interest in the program, we would help them with the process for earning the state certification," Johnson said. "If they were successful, they would then be eligible to apply for a job with the district, as would anyone with a valid certification."
Ward, however, feels it's the wrong approach to the issue, saying that more support and better pay would close the vacancies.
"There's an assumption that if you were a student, that you are also qualified to be a teacher," Ward said. "That's not necessarily the case and so it's just highly concerning because we've always had a high standard for educators in the public school system."
This article originally appeared on The Gainesville Sun: Florida schools: State invites veterans, spouses to teach without degrees
 

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First DeSantis opened all schools during the pandemic, then he banned Critical Race Theory in the classroom, then he pushed through the "don't say gay" bill for schools, then he mandated that all schools teach kids that Communism is bad, and now veterans can teach without any qualifications.


Florida has basically decided that schoolkids have no purpose in school outside of being pawns for cynical political gestures. :mjlol:
 

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First DeSantis opened all schools during the pandemic, then he banned Critical Race Theory in the classroom, then he pushed through the "don't say gay" bill for schools, then he mandated that all schools teach kids that Communism is bad, and now veterans can teach without any qualifications.


Florida has basically decided that schoolkids have no purpose in school outside of being pawns for cynical political gestures. :mjlol:

The obsession with veterans and cops from white society is alarming and dangerous.

They've elevated these meat head fukks to Jesus levels..

cac prayers now worship Jesus, the army and cops in the same breath:pachaha:
 

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The obsession with veterans and cops from white society is alarming and dangerous.

They've elevated these meat head fukks to Jesus levels..

cac prayers now worship Jesus, the army and cops in the same breath:pachaha:


Which is crazy because Jesus was the one telling fools to put down the sword cause if you lived by the sword you were gonna die by the sword. In multiple early Christian catechisms (we're talking 2nd/3rd century) there were oaths that told Roman soldiers they had to either drop out of the military or commit to never, ever killing a person or they couldn't become a Christian.
 

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Which is crazy because Jesus was the one telling fools to put down the sword cause if you lived by the sword you were gonna die by the sword. In multiple early Christian catechisms (we're talking 2nd/3rd century) there were oaths that told Roman soldiers they had to either drop out of the military or commit to never, ever killing a person or they couldn't become a Christian.

They just pick and choose what verses they like and ignore or eliminate the ones they don't, typical strategy they utilise for everything.

The fact that Jesus wasn't white needs to heavily pushed now in the mainstream to take Christianity away from them as they've weaponised it..
 
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