NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
You're really saying that the emails showing that there was a change of heart AFTER talking to Joe is making Joe out to be something he isn't.
"Emails suggest Joe Paterno was involved in cover-up scandal"
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You're really saying that the emails showing that there was a change of heart AFTER talking to Joe is making Joe out to be something he isn't.
Absolut
Legal Bookie
they didnt "happen to stumble upon" anything. the feds came in and demanded shyt be turned over when it looked like this could have been covered up on the inside. the e mails show plain as day that they discussed going to the authorities, and after meeting with paterno they didnt see going to authorities as an option anymore. big LOL @ "this is just penn state softening the blow" when it does the exact opposite, since it proves there was a coverup all the way up to and including the school president. penn state didnt voluntarily turnover this info. the school president tried to pass legislature making penn states records private, because he knew this could be dug up with a federal subpoena
Exactly. How does it soften the blow if they're in even more shyt now.
Yup....I hope the Feds get em all!!!
Let's look at the quote from that email...You're really saying that the emails showing that there was a change of heart AFTER talking to Joe is making Joe out to be something he isn't.
All it says is the AD Curley talked to Paterno, it's really vague on how much input Joe had in the conversation and Joe won't be clearing the details of that conversation up, we just have to go by the guy that's up on perjury charges. i seriously doubt the change of heart was just on Joe's input since he did nothing wrong anyway, it's on the administration that allowed Sandusky access to Penn State.
I wonder what Joe said to make dude have a change of heart. Also, Joe barely wanted to acknowledged those kids a victims: http://deadspin.com/5857944/whateve...s-handled-joe-paternos-weird-quote-last-night
Absolut
Legal Bookie
do you know how to read? it clearly says
"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps."
what part of that is vague on joes input, since he is no longer confortable going to the authorities after talking with paterno?
*lets go to the authorities, turn this over to them*
*hey joe, we are going to the police about jerry, this will threaten your job so be prepared*
*listens to paterno*
*nah lets not go to the authorities im not confortable with that anymore*
thats "vague" apparently
"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps."
what part of that is vague on joes input, since he is no longer confortable going to the authorities after talking with paterno?
*lets go to the authorities, turn this over to them*
*hey joe, we are going to the police about jerry, this will threaten your job so be prepared*
*listens to paterno*
*nah lets not go to the authorities im not confortable with that anymore*
thats "vague" apparently
My "softening the blow" comments was aimed at who shoulders the blame now. Yeah, I get it that shyt is much worse, but now the story isn't Penn State didn't do anything to stop Sandusky, it's Penn State COULDN'T do anything to stop Sandusky because of Joe Paterno. Penn State will spin it that Curley and Schultz hands were tied because Paterno's input is final.. No one can deny JoePa was Penn State. Lawsuits become sk=hakey at this point, do we sue PSU or the Paterno estate?
This shyt is on some wide scale cover your ass tactics now.
This shyt is on some wide scale cover your ass tactics now.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
I get what you are saying Absolut, I really do......here's where our argument might become circular,, for all we they could have discussed just what happens to the football program. Curley's "I am uncomfortable" would have made more sense if it was "We are uncomfortable" if Paterno's influence was that meaningful. All these emails and no real concrete opinions from Joe paterno himself or atleast relayed from Joe, just "talked to".
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
It's pretty clear cut. You want it murky.
Lets get to the point.
1. No one is putting Paterno on equal ground with Jerry
We're talking about this recent discovery that JUST HAPPENED. Being disgusted NOW doesn't displace our disgust at Sandusky or put Paterno on equal footing. The man protected Sandusky rather than using the moral fortitude he was so praised for to do what's right.
2. It's clear cut that things changed after Curley spoke to Paterno.
Don't try to make it murky out of love for Joe Pa.
He fukked up.
Paterno said the only thing he was involved in was telling them what he knew about the shower incident, nothing else.
These emails show that Paterno was later involved in determining what the next step would be.
The emails show that the plan was to tell authorities, UNTIL that meeting with Paterno where they decided to keep it in house.
This clearly shows that Paterno was more involved than he stated.
Paterno said the only thing he was involved in was telling them what he knew about the shower incident, nothing else.
These emails show that Paterno was later involved in determining what the next step would be.
The emails show that the plan was to tell authorities, UNTIL that meeting with Paterno where they decided to keep it in house.
This clearly shows that Paterno was more involved than he stated.
Its obvious they didn't go forward because they wanted to avoid a scandal and get Sandusky's side of the story. That's real bogus. If you think a crime has been committed, you let the authorities sort it out. That's why I hope they eat that failing to report suspected child abuse charge.
Oh yeah, Joe Paterno is what's wrong with conservative white America. They project an image about being all about values and virtue, but they are hypocrites and will not do the right thing when the time comes. You got 5 grown men involved and not one does the right thing, I call that a pattern.
Paterno said the only thing he was involved in was telling them what he knew about the shower incident, nothing else.
These emails show that Paterno was later involved in determining what the next step would be.
The emails show that the plan was to tell authorities, UNTIL that meeting with Paterno where they decided to keep it in house.
This clearly shows that Paterno was more involved than he stated.
This all doesn't make sense. If Joe really wanted to protect that child molester he could have deaded the story with McQueary. But he reports it then later he changed his mind and made Curley cover it up? Why? To deflect blame.
For the status quo, that's how the good ol' boy network works.