Eminem and 'Dre literally lifted Masta Ace' Blueprint for an MC and whitewashed him.

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Given a choice i'm playing Relapse before TES.

I understand that the general theme could be off-putting but it's easily his best produced album and he was rapping his ass off for the majority of it. And not just on some rapping for rapping sake, Deja Vu, Beautiful are well written songs. I'd even say Same song and Dance is well written as a song even thought it's pretty

That's actually what I would prefer his flow to go back to, he was in the pocket on that shyt, sounding nonchalant as hell while pulling off some ill shyt.

Because I respect your opinion / knowledge I will have to listen to it all the way through. Honestly, I never listened to it all the way. By that point I was over Eminem's music and would only casually check out songs because well, I have an addiction to all things Hip Hop

 

[Ashtrey]

I dunno I was a fan of Masta Ace with the albums Slaughtahouse and Sittin' On Chrome in the 90's and that flow was different than his flow on Disposable Arts which sounded like SSLP/MMLP Eminem

 

[SunZoo]

Because I respect your opinion / knowledge I will have to listen to it all the way through. Honestly, I never listened to it all the way. By that point I was over Eminem's music and would only casually check out songs because well, I have an addiction to all things Hip Hop

I burned a custom copy that looks/plays like this.

1. Dr. West.
2. My darling.
3. 3 A.M.
4. My Mom
5. Insane
6. Bagpipes
7. Hello
8. Tonya (skit)
9. Same Song And Dance
10. Medicine Ball
11. Paul (skit)
12. Stay Wide Awake
13. Must Be The Ganja
14. Mr. Mathers (skit)
15. Deja Vu
16. Careful What You Wish For
17. Beautiful
18. Steve Berman (skit)
19. Underground

 

[fukkyalifestyle]

Wonder why em didn't mention him on till I collapse

 

[nalej]

It's 2015 and people still can't give Em credit for his work. You don't even gotta be a fan but come on now.

 

[NormanConnors]

You said not a word about any of that shyt actually being good. No one gives a damn about his success. He is shaq at the free throw line when it comes to albums and if you're a real fan of hip hop then thats all you care about. Dude you quoted called his music wack and you trying to refute his points by saying "b-b-but he sells albums" tho

The music speaks for itself. Encore and MMLP2 are his only sub par albums imo. You Cant criticize him and let somebody like Jay slide who actually fits the bill of being Shaq at the free throw line when it comes to albums.

 

[hu3ypdadon]

I never heard a Master Ace track and I just played that "Acknowledge" song and I can definitely see why you would say em was influence by dood..

 

[Capitol]

The music speaks for itself. Encore and MMLP2 are his only sub par albums imo. You Cant criticize him and let somebody like Jay slide who actually fits the bill of being Shaq at the free throw line when it comes to albums.

We have nothing to discuss then

 

[DeuceCypherUno]

Can we shyt on Eminem for more legit reasons at least? The Masta Ace thing is old.

Let's talk about how he recycles the same songs and concepts album after album.....

there's like a hundred threads shytting on Em for any reason you can think of


how bout we keep it positive and just appreciate Masta Ace

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

there's like a hundred threads shytting on Em for any reason you can think of


how bout we keep it positive and just appreciate Masta Ace

Masta Ace never gets his just props...seriously.

 

[Mowgli]

How did he get away with this. The flow, the lyrics, the swagger. Only thing Eminem did was wear silly costumes. Granted some of these are post-Em but you catch the point...

Ace didnt have the punchlines though and eminem was able to kind of bring a cac sense of artistry to his concepts and lines.

 

[CASHAPP]

I burned a custom copy that looks/plays like this.

1. Dr. West.
2. My darling.
3. 3 A.M.
4. My Mom
5. Insane
6. Bagpipes
7. Hello
8. Tonya (skit)
9. Same Song And Dance
10. Medicine Ball
11. Paul (skit)
12. Stay Wide Awake
13. Must Be The Ganja
14. Mr. Mathers (skit)
15. Deja Vu
16. Careful What You Wish For
17. Beautiful
18. Steve Berman (skit)
19. Underground

can you remind me what your top 20 is in specific order..

yes i know you stated already em although one of your favs is not in your top 10 just curious your exact listing..

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

i dont like that cac marshall...but ive never understood this comparison

 

[SunZoo]

can you remind me what your top 20 is in specific order..

yes i know you stated already em although one of your favs is not in your top 10 just curious your exact listing..

Hard to be extra specific past 5-10

My top 5 is solid for reasons that will probably never change.

1. 2pac
2. KRS-ONE
3. Rakim
4. Jay Z
5. Nas
6. Ice Cube
7. Scarface
8. Kool G rap
9. BDK
10. LL Cool J

That list has been that way for damn more than 10 years.

 

[Grand Conde]

I don't hear it.

Regardless Ace >>>> Em in every way.

Slaughtahouse & Sittin On Chrome >>>>> anything Em has or ever will release