Eminem Is Dropping A Expanded Version Of "The Eminem Show'' To Celebrate it's 20th Anniversary

[Mike the Executioner]

The fact he went back in there and finished it is wild. Cause he literally sounded exactly how he sounded in 2002

I went back and listened to “Revival” today (don’t ask ) and when you get to the last 3 tracks, “In My Head,” “Castle,” and “Arose,” it’s vintage Em. Same voice, flow, all that.

“Kamikaze“ and “Music To Be Murdered By” is an example of if Em WANTS too, he can sound normal and go RIGHT back to how he sounded during his peak years.

It’s THERE..it’s just for whatever reason he just chooses not to do it


Like I said…if he WANTS too he could do it. I just feel his manager Rosenberg and the people around him still think it’s the early 2000s and feel he still needs to stick to the same ole formula.

At this rate Em is pushing 50, about to get inducted into the Rock N Roll HOF, and he has nothing else to prove. He has one of the biggest and by far the most loyal fan bases in music.

Rap fans been begging him for YEARS just to drop the gimmicks and just give us an album for the hip-hop heads.

For example:


When he FEELS like it he could do it..

I can't make sense of it anymore. This guy obviously loves hip hop and the art form of rhyming. It might be one of the few reasons he's even alive. He has an extensive knowledge of 80s and 90s rap music, constantly praises the legends.......but his own music doesn't reflect that at all. It's very bizarre.

Damn near every artist that made it big has ended up creating music that reflects their inspirations and influences. Justin Bieber is a pop artist, but he loves R&B music and he's made albums that reflect that (Journals, Changes). The closest Eminem’s gotten to that since he sobered up is Relapse, and he disowned that album the first chance he got in favor of making pop hits. Alchemist is his DJ, and he's only gotten one Eminem album placement. He made beats for Revival and none of them were used. Guys like Redman, Treach, LL Cool J......Eminem’s done how many songs with them? Can't remember any except one.

An old-school hip hop album with breakbeats, scratching, and James Brown samples........that's what Eminem needs. It's what he craves deep down. But I think it's too late for him to do something like that.

Sometimes I forget just how much charisma ‘Em had back during this era. Listening to The Conspiracy Freestyle and it just seems so effortless to him. Modern ‘Em doesn’t even come close to that type of delivery and carefreeness. He sounds so robotic, void of fun and emotionless nowadays.

I understand why his voice changed over the years, but I never understood why he started chopping up his flow and lost his ability to ride beats like he used to. Prime Eminem would have killed a song like "EPMD 2."

I'll always say that one of Eminem’s best qualities back then was his smoothness. Not just the way he flowed, but his presence on tracks. Songs like "Business," "Square Dance," "Drips," "Superman," "My Dad's Gone Crazy," they have a certain playfulness that's not corny and a lot of charisma. Those songs would sound horrible if they were made now, because the smoothness got replaced by this rough, computerized style. It's like Young Sheldon if he tried to rap.

 

[Deltron]

Square Dance is one of my fave em songs...that second verse

it really is a mystery wtf happened...was it really the drugs?

 

[SunZoo]

I try to stimulate, but kids emulate
And mimic every move you make, Slim you great but wait
Can't you see I'm only here to enterain..
I gotta be the one to go against the grain

 

[bigde09]

I can't make sense of it anymore. This guy obviously loves hip hop and the art form of rhyming. It might be one of the few reasons he's even alive. He has an extensive knowledge of 80s and 90s rap music, constantly praises the legends.......but his own music doesn't reflect that at all. It's very bizarre.

Damn near every artist that made it big has ended up creating music that reflects their inspirations and influences. Justin Bieber is a pop artist, but he loves R&B music and he's made albums that reflect that (Journals, Changes). The closest Eminem’s gotten to that since he sobered up is Relapse, and he disowned that album the first chance he got in favor of making pop hits. Alchemist is his DJ, and he's only gotten one Eminem album placement. He made beats for Revival and none of them were used. Guys like Redman, Treach, LL Cool J......Eminem’s done how many songs with them? Can't remember any except one.

An old-school hip hop album with breakbeats, scratching, and James Brown samples........that's what Eminem needs. It's what he craves deep down. But I think it's too late for him to do something like that.



I understand why his voice changed over the years, but I never understood why he started chopping up his flow and lost his ability to ride beats like he used to. Prime Eminem would have killed a song like "EPMD 2."

I'll always say that one of Eminem’s best qualities back then was his smoothness. Not just the way he flowed, but his presence on tracks. Songs like "Business," "Square Dance," "Drips," "Superman," "My Dad's Gone Crazy," they have a certain playfulness that's not corny and a lot of charisma. Those songs would sound horrible if they were made now, because the smoothness got replaced by this rough, computerized style. It's like Young Sheldon if he tried to rap.

You nailed it. Dude has zero charisma left. Prime Em had some swag to him.

 

[Busby]

I can't make sense of it anymore. This guy obviously loves hip hop and the art form of rhyming. It might be one of the few reasons he's even alive. He has an extensive knowledge of 80s and 90s rap music, constantly praises the legends.......but his own music doesn't reflect that at all. It's very bizarre.

Damn near every artist that made it big has ended up creating music that reflects their inspirations and influences. Justin Bieber is a pop artist, but he loves R&B music and he's made albums that reflect that (Journals, Changes). The closest Eminem’s gotten to that since he sobered up is Relapse, and he disowned that album the first chance he got in favor of making pop hits. Alchemist is his DJ, and he's only gotten one Eminem album placement. He made beats for Revival and none of them were used. Guys like Redman, Treach, LL Cool J......Eminem’s done how many songs with them? Can't remember any except one.

An old-school hip hop album with breakbeats, scratching, and James Brown samples........that's what Eminem needs. It's what he craves deep down. But I think it's too late for him to do something like that.



I understand why his voice changed over the years, but I never understood why he started chopping up his flow and lost his ability to ride beats like he used to. Prime Eminem would have killed a song like "EPMD 2."

I'll always say that one of Eminem’s best qualities back then was his smoothness. Not just the way he flowed, but his presence on tracks. Songs like "Business," "Square Dance," "Drips," "Superman," "My Dad's Gone Crazy," they have a certain playfulness that's not corny and a lot of charisma. Those songs would sound horrible if they were made now, because the smoothness got replaced by this rough, computerized style. It's like Young Sheldon if he tried to rap.

Like I’ve told you…he can still do it when he WANTS too. For whatever reason he just wants do that rapid fast flow. Almost to challenge himself…

And honestly when it comes to “Relapse” I can understand why Em doesn’t fukk with that album like that. Even though his core audience LOVED that record (myself included) to the casual listener it showed that he had no growth. The public looked at that album the same way we all look at Drake after he dropped CLB. Same subject matter, same type of beats, same wacky single, same ole Marshall.

I mean WE liked it cause he was gone for 4 years and he was giving his core Stanbase VINTAGE shady. For other folks it turned them off.

It wasn’t challenging enough for him..

Which is why “Recovery” happened and became Em’s first “mainstream pop” album. After that him and his people leaned into it TOO much and THATS when Em’s flow started to change.

I lowkey blame his manager Rosenberg cause I feel he was the one pushing Em to go in that direction

The backlash of “Revival” was lowkey a wake up call for Em and ever since then he has slowly started going back to his regular self flow wise. It’s a process… but I feel he will get back to it.

 

[Headcase]

That new joint shoulda been left in the vaults tbh.

 

[5n0man]

Like I’ve told you…he can still do it when he WANTS too. For whatever reason he just wants do that rapid fast flow. Almost to challenge himself…

And honestly when it comes to “Relapse” I can understand why Em doesn’t fukk with that album like that. Even though his core audience LOVED that record (myself included) to the casual listener it showed that he had no growth. The public looked at that album the same way we all look at Drake after he dropped CLB. Same subject matter, same type of beats, same wacky single, same ole Marshall.

Relapse sounded like a bad imitation of Eminem, which is sad because it also had the best production of all his projects. shock value bars with none of the humor or charisma of his past self. I still don't understand how nobody told him to stop with the "ass like that" accent.

After that album he started chasing a more poppy mainstream sound with revival and mmlp2. Now it feels like he raps just to show how good he is at rapping. overly technical wordplay rapped at rapid speed but not saying a damn thing. He has flashes of that old EM but it's rare.

 

[Izanami]

I would have liked to see what a marginally successful Eminem's career would have been like. Him touching pop star status ruined his work ethic. He is very content eating off nostalgia.

Em has had his own label for years and has never gone on a run like Nas did with kings disease or gave the streets a look like the magic. He still felt the need to make pop syrup with Skyler mediocre. The love ain't there... But he want rap god status. Anyway his fans will eat this up. What's new.

He could make a horrorcore theme album with alchemist and just spazz for 9 songs but instead were left with mediocre pop attempts soundtrackping an Elvis movie.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

He could make a horrorcore theme album with alchemist and just spazz for 9 songs but instead were left with mediocre pop attempts soundtrackping an Elvis movie.

Yup but he's not in his hip hop element. He's had many chances. It's funny that his beat selection was never a meme like Nas when he is wildly inconsistent. Once he started doing the Skyler grey Alex beats premade pop songs it was completely over for me as a hip hop fan looking at someone who wants to be a rap god willingly make the worst pop music when he is one of the few who could sell non singles. His heart ain't been in rap music in a while even if he enjoys rapping. Royce saying he rolls around in a old Ford with stock speakers no bass to preview his music made a whole lot of sense. His actual musical sensibilities are not with the culture.

That beat switch for his feature verse thing he insists on doing is Tasteless and arrogant. If you need to stand out on someone else's song let the verse do it for you. Needing your own beat and then not even keeping a standard bar count as others is such narcissistic bullshyt. J Cole kills most of his features without all that horse shyt.

 

[We Ready]

That new joint shoulda been left in the vaults tbh.

Beat reminds me of this

 

[Gangstar8]

MMLP 2 was Eminem's best

 

[Poohdini]

Finally real hip hop is back

 

[rabbid]

the rerecorded parts sound trash. should've just gave us the instrumental

That new joint shoulda been left in the vaults tbh.

 

[ill_will82]

Funny enough I played his entire discography for the first time in years this week, that run between SSLP to Eminem Show was legendary Eminem Show was his magnum opus, it relied more on skill and social commentary rather than shock factor

Yeah I agree w/MMLP & Eminem Show being his absolute prime years. Encore should have been a follow up classic to The Eminem Show but I believe Dr. Dre had a hand in putting bs like Big Weenie, Ass Like That, & Rain Man on Encore when somebody should had called an audible on that shyt. I won't even speak on the original version of Relapse.

 

[Funcrusher]

Might as well have included conspiracy 2 and 3. I think it was the second one that was my favorite. That goofing around but still flowing like crazy shyt.