eminem relapse album appreciation
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Great beats, wack delivery. SSLP and MMLP are still his best imo.
Eminem's legitimately talented as fukk but his fanbase is insufferable. Then again, you can't teach 14 year old white kids anything since everyone's stupid as shyt when they're 14, and being white just amplifies it.
MMLP is his peak artistically but this album, especially with a few, common sense tweaks plays front to back.
As a fan there's a difference between "best" or career defining and favorite. Relapse is underrated as shyt to me.
You're right about Hello being the first single, that was really the joint that most people that I played the album for were feeling right off the bat, and it even sounded like the perfect re-introduction catching you up on what he went through in the hiatus.
I kept "we made you" on my custom copy because it grew on me after a while. Those silly first single type joints are made to have visuals, and the video was funny/vintage goofy Eminem without being horrible like just lose it. More importantly it actually fits the theme of the album especially coming after a song like same song and dance. The idea that the women he attacks in his music so much actually made him who he is ironic.
My darling should have been placed right after Dr. West, which was probably the plan until they shoehorned that crack a bottle bullshyt in after the leak. The alarm after the dream sequence, then you have him waking up, making his bargain with shady and then you let him loose on 3AM, shyt would have been perfect sequencing.
Old times sake got the axe on my custom copy as well, It wasn't bad but I didn't think it had much to do with the album.
Retail is 4 mics. With the proper adjustments 4.5
Shiva
Avatāra. Annihilator. Gone To The 5th Dimension.
Oh yeah honestly I feel like if he limited the accents to just one or two songs then everything would've been fine and this actually would've been one of my favorites. SSLP's good to do drugs to and MMLP's good to work out to, after that I just lose interest in most of his catalog besides some individual songs.
I just get sick of the accents, it's the same reason I can't listen to a Childish Gambino album all the way through, his content's tight but his delivery gets annoying.
But yeah having Dominic West / Jimmy McNulty do the intro for the album was a GOAT tactic. Really set the mood, plus it's real funny to hear Detective McNulty luring Em's persona back into hard drugs on that shyt haha.
I just get sick of the accents, it's the same reason I can't listen to a Childish Gambino album all the way through, his content's tight but his delivery gets annoying.
But yeah having Dominic West / Jimmy McNulty do the intro for the album was a GOAT tactic. Really set the mood, plus it's real funny to hear Detective McNulty luring Em's persona back into hard drugs on that shyt haha.
I feel like this album has the most replay value from anything he's done. Refill was dope also. Wish we could've got relapse 2
Oh yeah honestly I feel like if he limited the accents to just one or two songs then everything would've been fine and this actually would've been one of my favorites. SSLP's good to do drugs to and MMLP's good to work out to, after that I just lose interest in most of his catalog besides some individual songs.
I just get sick of the accents, it's the same reason I can't listen to a Childish Gambino album all the way through, his content's tight but his delivery gets annoying.
But yeah having Dominic West / Jimmy McNulty do the intro for the album was a GOAT tactic. Really set the mood, plus it's real funny to hear Detective McNulty luring Em's persona back into hard drugs on that shyt haha.
Another reason why I love Relapse:
Relapse was def a nod to Redman in several ways.
Funny shyt is despite them being dope albums, I've seen Red talk about hating DIAD for the same reasons Em disliked Relapse. It brings them back to times where they were really fukked up on drugs.
The fact that he tried to get over with a horrocore, lyric heavy album in an era where that type of shyt had no mainstream presence was crazy to me. Imagine an album like Dare Iz even going gold in this era.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
lyrically he peaked with this album his was some of his best shyt in years after encore and all that.
he had fell off but then he feel right back on imo.
1-8-7-Skillz
Superstar
The beats on the album were seriously INSANE 
Wish dre wouldnt have wasted them on em
Wish dre wouldnt have wasted them on em
TransJenner
Banned
say what you want about Relapse but the production is top notch , every sound sounds crisp and clean
TransJenner
Banned
i wish we had Relapse 2 though , I really liked the cover that leaked
Dres production on this was fire and sounds even better with quality headphones.
I agree with @SunZoo that My Darling should've been right after DrWest intro. I don't mind the accents because if you listen closely it fades as Em gets sober on the album ( Beautiful, Underground, careful what you wish). It's really a creative album but EM didn't have the balls to take it there like K.DOT on GKMC.
4mics retail, 4.5 my version.
I agree with @SunZoo that My Darling should've been right after DrWest intro. I don't mind the accents because if you listen closely it fades as Em gets sober on the album ( Beautiful, Underground, careful what you wish). It's really a creative album but EM didn't have the balls to take it there like K.DOT on GKMC.
4mics retail, 4.5 my version.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
The beats on the album were seriously INSANE
Wish dre wouldnt have wasted them on em
nah your ear is slacking, those beats were tailor-made for Em/his delivery, other emcees wouldn't sound as dope over them.
raoulduke187
All Star
Eminem is a whiteboy who can rap. His whole mainstream career is a gimmick. The 1999-2002 period was amusing and he put out great quality music during the time. After 8 Mile he started taking himself seriously, trying too hard and his releases took a big decline (The Eminem Show is so corny when you look at it for what it is). Of course, at that point Marshall Mathers was heavy on drugs and had no creative control whatsoever while Eminem was the brand that had to be exploited to the maximum. I believe the record execs pushed him far beyond the mark he was aiming for and he couldn't handle it. Eventually he ran out of gas and fell off the map for a couple of years.
Relapse, for what it is, is about as honest as Eminem can get and it was not even his intention. The themes speak for themselves - drugs and the insanity that comes with abusing them. What is great about the album is the atmosphere it creates, save for a few tracks. The serial killer theme and the accent might put you off at first, not to mention the stories of Eminem being fukked by his stepfather but it's all a part of the mess that's going on inside his head. Everything you do catches up eventually. The production is flawless - Dr. Dre is a producer that can make a timeless classic if you pin him down onto your project and cut him off from the rest of the world. Eminem is a godly writer if he gets down to it. This was the perfect case - they were both out of touch with the world, Relapse sounds like it was recorded in timelessness. Apart from some songs that were obviously forced into the album for some mainstream appeal, this was an album that had nothing to do with the rap game at the time.
This is a good thing because Eminem's next album Recovery was the exact opposite - template singles, missing subject matter, production all over the place, basically all the marketing tools were there and the artist's personality was completely missing again. As a result, Recovery is unlistenable today and Relapse is a piece of art.
Relapse is not a compilation of tracks designed to make record sales like every Eminem album after it (I forgot how many they were but it doesn't really matter). I'd rank it at #3 behind MMLP and SSLP, maybe on a good day it can even be #2 because MMLP has a few serious flaws.
Relapse, for what it is, is about as honest as Eminem can get and it was not even his intention. The themes speak for themselves - drugs and the insanity that comes with abusing them. What is great about the album is the atmosphere it creates, save for a few tracks. The serial killer theme and the accent might put you off at first, not to mention the stories of Eminem being fukked by his stepfather but it's all a part of the mess that's going on inside his head. Everything you do catches up eventually. The production is flawless - Dr. Dre is a producer that can make a timeless classic if you pin him down onto your project and cut him off from the rest of the world. Eminem is a godly writer if he gets down to it. This was the perfect case - they were both out of touch with the world, Relapse sounds like it was recorded in timelessness. Apart from some songs that were obviously forced into the album for some mainstream appeal, this was an album that had nothing to do with the rap game at the time.
This is a good thing because Eminem's next album Recovery was the exact opposite - template singles, missing subject matter, production all over the place, basically all the marketing tools were there and the artist's personality was completely missing again. As a result, Recovery is unlistenable today and Relapse is a piece of art.
Relapse is not a compilation of tracks designed to make record sales like every Eminem album after it (I forgot how many they were but it doesn't really matter). I'd rank it at #3 behind MMLP and SSLP, maybe on a good day it can even be #2 because MMLP has a few serious flaws.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
for the record those accents made eminem rhyme shyt that otherwise would not rhyme pronounced other wise it's called bending words google it it showed creativity
imo it gave him more words to rhyme with.
imo it gave him more words to rhyme with.