PartyHeart
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so the sole reason BW are raising shyt sons is simply because they're single parents? that's about as far as accountable as you'll get, huh?![]()
Black men and women who aren't ready for kids are responsible for not creating them. If they do make a mistake and create them, they are responsible for taking care of them. Black women are actually doing that, Black men aren't. I'm never going to tell you Black women are accountable for doing things they are doing but also for the things Black men aren't, so you may as well keep it moving.
at no point did i say the black community was a patriarchy, and you can't prove there is one. your best example is the church, an institution that yields little to no power over black women and is kept alive by black women. the black church is nothing more than a pimp/paster telling black women everything they want to hear -- thats not Patriarchy.
Black men also hold the purse strings in that they make more, are promoted more, and have more wealth. (here is the part where you blame that on white men, your other punching bag for your failures)
no you didn't, you brought up pastors and preachers, that's not yielding power over black women. black women are free to follow women ran churches, they CHOOSE not to.
And what do Black men choose, when they decide to make children and not marry the mothers of those children? What future are they choosing for the Black race?
heres the first 1 i'll post, lets see you wiggle your way around it:
Michelle Ebanks is not a feminist. You might do some research on some of the pieces she's allowed to be published
Also, Roland Martin pretty much told her everything to say in that leading ass question. Next.if you believe in accountability, why aren't you acknowledging the bare fact women are choosing to get pregnant by unfit males? why are they choosing to get pregnant at early ages by men that more than likely doesn't want children by them? conversely, before you can even ask. these males are clearly in it strictly for sex only, and the girls know this.
Please look up the definition of both matriarchy and patriarchy. Your misuse of these terms in this debate are just
worthy and I'm not going to explain to you again that being a responsible adult =/= patriarchy or matriarchy.oh, now we went from theres NO degenerates to not as high of a of percentage. why are you moving the goal post? why are still bringing up what other patriarchal men are doing when you advocate for matriarchy? you should focus on all these women led house holds and why the men that come out of them end up becoming your worst enemy.
Resorting to playing semantics huh?

Stop asking questions I've already answered and answer mine: How does a guy who claims a disdain for matriarchy preach men's dependency on women to do better? How does a guy who has said he believes Black women are purposefully having kids with subpar men to keep control, still look to them to stop the issue?
If they are getting what you claim they want, why would they stop? Because you use racist language against them online? Your contradictions are hilarious

and this is why i said BW pretend the problem starts when BM are of legal age. if choosing better partners so your offspring grows up in an intact family = female dependency. so be it. but unless women are willing to take the first step to do better by their choices in mates, they have little room to complain.
No no no. Type it out fully. You're not saying "if choosing better partners so your offspring grows up in an intact family = female dependency". Because you're not talking about who anybody else but the female chooses. So state that clearly.
You are saying "if WOMEN choose better partners, MEN will be forced to follow suit and not be degenerates so that their offspring grows up in an intact family."
Essentially: men, who have no incentive to ever be better because they can always blame their not being better on a woman who didn't make them, won't be better until women force them to by who the have sex with. Did I get that right buddy

which is why i noted women of races often make the same mistake. many of which come broken homes themselves, from personal experience
Oh well would you look at that. An excuse for women's poor choices. Surprise surprise that it only came up when we were speaking of women of different races. Not.
extreme?how exactly do you think most of these women are getting knocked up and left? do you want to pretend, is that it? they were all in long term relationships by stable men, who lied to them about wanting children, then disappeared fromt heir kids life for good? is that the story you want to run with?
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Unless you mean the majority of Black men aren't stable you don't really have a point
And studies have already shown these men are actually involved (probably part of the reasons why most of the crying is coming from BW haters online and not single mothers themselves). The issues is the lack of a nuclear family and marriage.
and yet, BW dont force their partners to wear one. hell, you BW front so hard online. you pull out a condom around these broads and they're like "condoms? i havent used those in awhile" or "
im allergic to latex, just pull out"
bunch of irresponsible fukks, but wanna act surprised their kids turn out equally irresponsible
And yet here you are, recognizing both parties are irresponsible, but only one gets your disdain constantly. Why?
Eventually you need to just admit you hate Black women for your own personal reasons and stop pretending you give a damn about Black people. I think that's the most annoying part of you Tommy Sotomayor and Tariq Nasheed nutheads. You disguise your misogynoir as pro-Blackness and further spread anti-Black woman propaganda and divide the community.
yep, you are officially an idiot. you honestly believe men going around trying to verbally shame men for not raising their children TRUMPS the women who are actually fukking the guys. a true fukking dunce![]()
You know you lost when you have to resort to name calling and making up straw men arguments. Still haven't answered my question though:
How does a hater of matriarchy and a believer in Black men needing to be the leaders of the community hold everyone else BUT Black men accountable for their actions?

It does show what I always said though. Y'all are afraid of other Black men. So you pick the easy target whom has nobody defending or protecting her: Black women.
yeah that would be real fruitfulinstead of you just closing ya fukking legs and stop enabling the behavior by rewarding it.
Pregnancy doesn't happen without both an egg and sperm.
but its already been established by plenty of women that shaming them wont stop the problem. being a single mother has never been a positive in society, that aint stopping BW from trynna turn it into one.
Nothing has been proven in a culture that blames the woman for everything, stop lying to yourself and use logic.
so why would dead beats suddenly shake off decades of learned behavior just to appease other black men they dont know? once again, it would be more effective if you just chose better.
alright im done here, you're not even trying to be honest
That would be best. Contradictory point after contradictory point exposed.
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how exactly do you think most of these women are getting knocked up and left? do you want to pretend, is that it? they were all in long term relationships by stable men, who lied to them about wanting children, then disappeared fromt heir kids life for good? is that the story you want to run with?
condoms? i havent used those in awhile" or "
instead of you just closing ya fukking legs and stop enabling the behavior by rewarding it.
tough guy



