Episode 4 of SirBiatch in Concert: "All sounds of hip hop come from New York"

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Mecca envy is funny to me. I'm not from New York so there's no bias here. You just have to give credit where it's due.

People forget that New York had a good 10 year headstart on all the other coasts. By the time '86 rolled around, NY had played with tons of beat and rhyme styles.

That G-Funk shyt y'all proud of? Talk to EPMD

The "Southern" bounce?



Kool Keith addresses this in more depth



As for NY running from their sound, I understand why. Frankly, the sample-based boom bap shyt is a whole other level. The stuff before that was cool, but when you start sampling (especially obscure stuff) and doing crazy beat patterns mixed with potent rhymes -- now you're making God-level music. But Keith has a point. and like anything, once everyone starts riding a wave and doing things the exact same way, that wave gets corny after a while.

This isn't to take away from the other coasts. They took the sounds NY left behind and took em to the next level.

Feel free to disagree. Receipts would be wonderful. Let's discuss.
 
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IMO NY'S don't know what the fukk they want from an artist right now. Ironically enough the hottest dude to come out of NY over the past 5 years has been the one in your avi and they hate him. Meanwhile Joey Badass sticking to that boom-bap sound and they not really getting behind him like that either.

It seems like every other region does what they can to support their artist in the game right now except NY.
Kendrick, Nipsey and YG get love in LA, Chicago fukk with them Chicago dudes, Houston supports their artist despite not even really being mainstream like that. And there's no need to even discuss how much ATL rides for their people. Yet every artist that's coming out of NY right NY is not really standing by
 
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Taadow said:
Let's assume this is true...


If this is the case, why don't NY appreciate other styles developed by other regions?
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well... first off, I'm not a New Yorker. So you'd have to ask a NYer that question.

If I had to guess, it's 3 things
a) they think the other styles are inferior to the NY style --- which, I gotta be honest, I agree with. Drinking/turn-up/party music from other coasts is cool, but the shyt that really makes mindblowing music is the NY style done well. Stuff like "Represent" is gonna be infinitely entertaining compared to "Scarred". and that's not to knock "Scarred" because I love that song and it's better than Represent in certain settings, but you get my point. Represent is a party track that transcends an immediate party environment into something else entirely.

b) usual bias. Every region has its bias.

c) lack of education/critical thinking. A big reason why I'm floored by the album in my avi is that it's a mix of all coasts brought back to New York. It's like hip hop coming home after being outta New York for so long. But that's an intellectual argument. Most people do not think intellectually about hip hop and thus, wouldn't appreciate something that's too weird/out the box for them.
 
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SirBiatch said:
well... first off, I'm not a New Yorker. So you'd have to ask a NYer that question.

If I had to guess, it's 3 things
a) they think the other styles are inferior to the NY style --- which, I gotta be honest, I agree with. Drinking/turn-up/party music from other coasts is cool, but the shyt that really makes mindblowing music is the NY style done well. Stuff like "Represent" is gonna be infinitely entertaining compared to "Scarred". and that's not to knock "Scarred" because I love that song and it's better than Represent in certain settings, but you get my point. Represent is a party track that transcends an immediate party environment into something else entirely.

b) usual bias. Every region has its bias.

c) lack of education/critical thinking. A big reason why I'm floored by the album in my avi is that it's a mix of all coasts brought back to New York. It's like hip hop coming home after being outta New York for so long. But that's an intellectual argument. Most people do not think intellectually about hip hop and thus, wouldn't appreciate something that's too weird/out the box for them.
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I read this, and I think you mean "all sounds come from New York" - not "styles".
 
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