Eric Bischoff calls Bret Hart a whiny bytch

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I see your point but you can't compare Wrestlemania to Starcade. Wrestlemania will always draw bigger numbers compared to a PPV in December and the WWF was still doing a better marketing job than WCW. Now put Hogan vs Vader instead of Beefcake I'm sure the numbers would've been better. But it was mentioned in Kayfabe Commenteries Timeline series that Wrestlemania 10 was the first without Hogan and drew the lowest buys for Wrestlemania. That should tell you something too. If Bret was the draw he said he was then why did the WWF bring Warrior and Sid back.


im trying to figure out why @Peter Parker went out of his way to compare starcade's numbers to wrestlemania anyway?? them chits is 9 months apart.

he also conveniently skipped over the hogan/flair ppvs that were earlier in the year.



No, I'm not.

You're just too retarded to get what I'm saying.


you need me to pull up the quotes??

stop reaching for excuses.

bottom line:
- bret is mad cuz bischoff didnt hold his hand like Vince.
- there were a gang of bigger names there.
- he was putting on nowhere near the best matches over there, but alot of his opponents were.
- wrestlers were having so-so matches with him, but then would turn around and have excellent matches with each other
- he was getting killed on the mic
- he made no impact with the audience and wasnt over like that.

bottom line 2:
- WWF guy that didnt translate well to WCW
- was a big fish in a small pond in the WW\F.
 
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Bret hart was still putting on great matches in 97 with taker, austin, hbk, vader. Why the drop off in match quality for bret in 98 if he was still great in 97?


if you feel bret suffered a drop-off in match quality, then thats something you have to ask bret. you can blame bischoff for that.

your list is weak anyway.
i'll give you the austin match.
the rest of that chit is only great in the eyes of WWF marks.
youre in WCW now. most of that chit doesnt even stand out on a regular episode of nitro.

keep telling yall, stop applying WWF logic to other promotions.
and then some of yall do it in retrospect on top of that, by using 2000s WWE logic.

youre in another thread thinking that bret hart/roddy piper were feuding in '92, because someone made a 30 minute video about it.
some of yall werent even around, and do half ass research, up here tryna argue.
 

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if you feel bret suffered a drop-off in match quality, then thats something you have to ask bret. you can blame bischoff for that.

your list is weak anyway.
i'll give you the austin match.
the rest of that chit is only great in the eyes of WWF marks.
youre in WCW now. most of that chit doesnt even stand out on a regular episode of nitro.

keep telling yall, stop applying WWF logic to other promotions.
and then some of yall do it in retrospect on top of that, by using 2000s WWE logic.

youre in another thread thinking that bret hart/roddy piper were feuding in '92, because someone made a 30 minute video about it.
some of yall werent even around, and do half ass research, up here tryna argue.

I loved those matches. What matches in wcw would you put over them? Also what wrestlers would you say or better than bret in the ring?

I loved the wcw matches as well.
 
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