Eric Holder: Banning Homeschooling Doesn’t Violate Fundamental Rights

[theworldismine13]

You are missing something. There's no proper analogy that can be drawn between these people and illegal immigrants. Your hypothetical actually has nothing to do with this situation, and for the record, I would have been opposed to them coming here illegally, too.

The laws of asylum aren't more or less "sacrosanct" than immigration laws. I largely agree with the asylum setup within our current framework- I don't agree with our immigration laws. Accepting one does not necessitate accepting the other, so there is no inconsistency there.

yeah that's fine, so for the record you are outraged or derisive of a german couple applying for asylum but you approve of giving green cards to 11 million people that lied to government officials, lied on government forms, committed identity theft, stole jobs from americans, pushed down wages and skipped ahead of people that went through things properly

thanks for clearing that up

 

[88m3]

yeah that's fine, so for the record you are outraged or derisive of a german couple applying for asylum but you approve of giving green cards to 11 million people that lied to government officials, lied on government forms, committed identity theft, stole jobs from americans, pushed down wages and skipped ahead of people that went through things properly

thanks for clearing that up

I bet you actually think this way.

 

[theworldismine13]

I bet you actually think this way.

i understand your sadness my friend, facts are hard things to digest

 

[88m3]

i understand your sadness my friend, facts are hard things to digest

If I call a grape a lime it doesn't make it a lime

 

[The Real]

yeah that's fine, so for the record you are outraged or derisive of a german couple applying for asylum but you approve of giving green cards to 11 million people that lied to government officials, lied on government forms, committed identity theft, stole jobs from americans, pushed down wages and skipped ahead of people that went through things properly

thanks for clearing that up

Outraged? No, not really. As for your hysterical description of illegals, even if they were true, which they aren't on a number of levels (lol@ illegals "skipping ahead") it would have no bearing on this asylum case, as I stated earlier, since there is no analogy to be made here that could make me a hypocrite. And, even if they were true, you'd have to prove that the immigration laws as they currently stand are justified, in order for breaking them to be something negative. It seems like you have a real problem accepting that someone might endorse a consistent set of beliefs that happen to be different than the ones you do.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Outraged? No, not really. As for your hysterical description of illegals, even if they were true, which they aren't on a number of levels (lol@ illegals "skipping ahead") it would have no bearing on this asylum case, as I stated earlier, since there is no analogy to be made here that could make me a hypocrite. And, even if they were true, you'd have to prove that the immigration laws as they currently stand are justified, in order for breaking them to be something negative. It seems like you have a real problem accepting that someone might endorse a consistent set of beliefs that happen to be different than the ones you do.

or worse yet THE ALMIGHTY LAW

He's hiding behind "the law", the same "law" that had his ancestors in chains.

Sometimes the laws not right and when you don't have a voice you have to find a way to speak.

 

[theworldismine13]

Outraged? No, not really. As for your hysterical description of illegals, even if they were true, which they aren't on a number of levels (lol@ illegals "skipping ahead") it would have no bearing on this asylum case, as I stated earlier, since there is no analogy to be made here that could make me a hypocrite. And, even if they were true, you'd have to prove that the immigration laws as they currently stand are justified, in order for breaking them to be something negative. It seems like you have a real problem accepting that someone might endorse a consistent set of beliefs that happen to be different than the ones you do.

i never said it had any bearing on the case, im just juxtaposing your reaction, in your mind one couple that follows the rules gets derision, and 11 million law breakers get green cards, just saying....well alrighty then

the immigration laws are fine its our immigration enforcement system that is broken

 

[theworldismine13]

or worse yet THE ALMIGHTY LAW

He's hiding behind "the law", the same "law" that had his ancestors in chains.

Sometimes the laws not right and when you don't have a voice you have to find a way to speak.

im not hiding behind the "law" im "hiding" behind the rule of law Rule of law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and any black person that doesnt support the rule of law is retarded

 

[thekingsmen]

Another shytty thekingsmen thread. What else is new?

You love coming to my threads, stop playing yourself. You and your co-signing boyfriend 88.

 

[MN Fats]

The problem is assuming what type of parents are homeschooling their kids. The Drop out rate in America for High School have sky-rocketed and the kids are joining gangs and selling drugs...this isn't about Mitt Romney. Its a right for a parent to teach they kid. Knowledge starts from home.

I agree with this...the home schooled kids I knew growing up and know now are some of the smartest people I come across...and the parents who I see homeschooling their kids are doing it because they care about the education their children are getting. shytty parents aren't signing up to homeschool. That being said though, parents have to find ways then to get their kids involved in other social settings because a majority of the home schooled kids you see are some of the most socially awkward people on the planet.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

shytty parents aren't signing up to homeschool.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOES HAPPEN, BROTHER! THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS EXPOSED TO SCIENCE, CULTURE, AND WHAT THEY CALL WORLDLY INFLUENCES, DUDE!

 

[newworldafro]

I could understand that. Because you have all these dumb ass parents out there who barely finished high school in the 80's, they are not qualified. Its the socialization that the children will miss out on that creates these fukking monsters we have today. Look at Mitt Romney. He can't interact with normal people because he never lived amongst regular people.

.... I was never homeschooled....I know kids that did just fine without having done public...and many hella smarter than people who've done public or private school.......many places have a larger number of home schooled children and they form networks...so kids can participate with each other on academic, sports, culture events......

... some of yall jokers...??

 

[Morph]

i think its laughable and hypocritical to advocate handing over green cards to 11 million people who are by and large guilty of lying to government officials, lying on government forms and identity theft but then turn around and have any sort of outrage at this couple and demand that the letter of the law be followed

THIS times a million.

the rule of law has worked so far, the lack of rule of law in mexico is the main reason why 11 million illegals leave their country

and this.

 

[The Real]

i never said it had any bearing on the case, im just juxtaposing your reaction, in your mind one couple that follows the rules gets derision, and 11 million law breakers get green cards, just saying....well alrighty then

Why do you keep repeating this as if it's some self-evident indictment of my position? I already explained why it wasn't. "The rules" or "the rule of law" are not useful categories for making workable analogies.

 

[theworldismine13]

Why do you keep repeating this as if it's some self-evident indictment of my position? I already explained why it wasn't. "The rules" or "the rule of law" are not useful categories for making workable analogies.

I haven't made any analogy, I simply juxtaposed your opinion of the German couple and your position on illegal immigrants, that isn't an analogy

I'm sure in your mind you have a perfectly logical reason for your different positions, I'm bringing up the rule of law to explain my position