Erick Sermon on Bootleg Kev " I own my publishing, making 240k off Weeknd"

[TripleAgent]

I looked on whosampled.com and 151 songs used youre a customer. I wonder if pmd making anything off that.

P was the business mind, I'm sure he gets something

he shouldve rephrased that tho. thats what he’s making NOW, but in a couple years that song isnt gojng to be doing the same number as it is rn
so its going to go down drastically. still not bad tho

Making 220K ONCE from being sampled is a win. E eating lovely.

 

[Deadman187]

PMD doesn't get the same cut off the EPMD records as Erick does. Erick was the one doing the beats. When he signed with Def Jam for his solo in '93, he was able to get a million dollar advance and strike a deal to get production credit for all of the previous work that was labeled under the group and full ownership of his publishing. PMD went on to sign to RCA, where he had to give up a portion of his. The whole breakup was because Parrish and his dad were trying to steal Erick's bread, lol. That's when E sent them goons.

This is what Erick was talking about on the disses when they first broke up. Def Jam didn't want Parrish anymore, but Erick was so popular at the time, they gave him a crazy deal, and let him steer his own ship. Parrish was hurting for money until they got back together in '97. Which is why I think Erick looks out for him with touring and all that.

Parrish Smith says different :

And when you finally did get into the studio, what way did you handle the production? Was it a 50/50 split between you and Erick?

P: Basically, with EPMD when we first started, I did all the production… cos, you know, I was coming from the background of the whole DJ thing. And plus my brother was signed to Tommy Boy records – Smitty D and the Rock Squad… so I’d seen all the stuff that he and been through with whatever the case may be. So my perception of the industry at that point was wrong…

If I remember right, Erick dropped his solo before you got yours out. What did you think of his first solo joint when it dropped? (Did you go back and rework some of your shyt based on what you’d heard? Did you think “Damn we both coulda killed that beat as a team?”)

P: Its sorta wild that you say that, cos for me to say I felt just one thing wouldn’t be the correct answer. I felt a couple of things, you know? Because before Erick did his solo, he didn’t really do too much music – he really only started producing seriously with Redman. Prior to that, the first 3 EPMD albums I was doing all the music, and then he just started catching up.

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[Awesome Wells]

Parrish Smith says different :

And when you finally did get into the studio, what way did you handle the production? Was it a 50/50 split between you and Erick?

P: Basically, with EPMD when we first started, I did all the production… cos, you know, I was coming from the background of the whole DJ thing. And plus my brother was signed to Tommy Boy records – Smitty D and the Rock Squad… so I’d seen all the stuff that he and been through with whatever the case may be. So my perception of the industry at that point was wrong…

If I remember right, Erick dropped his solo before you got yours out. What did you think of his first solo joint when it dropped? (Did you go back and rework some of your shyt based on what you’d heard? Did you think “Damn we both coulda killed that beat as a team?”)

P: Its sorta wild that you say that, cos for me to say I felt just one thing wouldn’t be the correct answer. I felt a couple of things, you know? Because before Erick did his solo, he didn’t really do too much music – he really only started producing seriously with Redman. Prior to that, the first 3 EPMD albums I was doing all the music, and then he just started catching up.

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He's always said that. But Erick always said the opposite about the beats. And after they broke up, PMD couldn't move no beats to other artists. Das EFX left with Parrish. Dude never did one beat for them. The beats he said he did for himself were done by other people who ended up suing him for their credit. Dude was always a shady character, which is why the group broke up in the first place. Meanwhile, Erick was doing all of Redman's sh*t, Keith's sh*t, K-Solo, Illegal, Shaq, Shadz of Lingo, etc, all while the break up was happening.

Erick was producing everybody in the 90's, even late during his run with EPMD. So for PMD to say Erick "caught up" with his production skills is hilarious.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

PMD doesn't get the same cut off the EPMD records as Erick does. Erick was the one doing the beats. When he signed with Def Jam for his solo in '93, he was able to get a million dollar advance and strike a deal to get production credit for all of the previous work that was labeled under the group and full ownership of his publishing. PMD went on to sign to RCA, where he had to give up a portion of his. The whole breakup was because Parrish and his dad were trying to steal Erick's bread, lol. That's when E sent them goons.

This is what Erick was talking about on the disses when they first broke up. Def Jam didn't want Parrish anymore, but Erick was so popular at the time, they gave him a crazy deal, and let him steer his own ship. Parrish was hurting for money until they got back together in '97. Which is why I think Erick looks out for him with touring and all that.

ok, I knew about the separation and PMD's solo records along with his production for K solo, but I didn't know about RCA jerking him for publishing. For the record, I bought both debut solo albums from them a year apart and I DID NOT like Shade Business. It just wasn't it. thanks for the info

 

[Awesome Wells]

ok, I knew about the separation and PMD's solo records along with his production for K solo, but I didn't know about RCA jerking him for publishing. For the record, I bought both debut solo albums from them a year apart and I DID NOT like Shade Business. It just wasn't it. thanks for the info

Yeah, PMD was having a hard time getting a deal.

Russell and Lyor didn't want him at Def Jam, and he couldn't get on East West with Das, so I think he took whatever deal he could, just so he could get some bread and have something out like Erick did. E was doing soundtracks and all that, so I think P wanted to keep visibility up too. But Erick left dude in the dust crazily. LOL!!

 

[King Poetic]

Most underrated producer of all time

Redman and Keith Murray Alone was fukking classics

 

[MikelArteta]

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

PMD doesn't get the same cut off the EPMD records as Erick does. Erick was the one doing the beats. When he signed with Def Jam for his solo in '93, he was able to get a million dollar advance and strike a deal to get production credit for all of the previous work that was labeled under the group and full ownership of his publishing. PMD went on to sign to RCA, where he had to give up a portion of his. The whole breakup was because Parrish and his dad were trying to steal Erick's bread, lol. That's when E sent them goons.

This is what Erick was talking about on the disses when they first broke up. Def Jam didn't want Parrish anymore, but Erick was so popular at the time, they gave him a crazy deal, and let him steer his own ship. Parrish was hurting for money until they got back together in '97. Which is why I think Erick looks out for him with touring and all that.

the bold is not completely true and Erick was wrong. Parrish had the Management company and was getting extra money manageming K-Solo and Das. Erick thought he was getting shafted and he wasnt. He wasnt putting in the same extra work P did. That's when he started producing for others.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

ok, I knew about the separation and PMD's solo records along with his production for K solo, but I didn't know about RCA jerking him for publishing. For the record, I bought both debut solo albums from them a year apart and I DID NOT like Shade Business. It just wasn't it. thanks for the info

SHADE business wasnt that bad. How did you like The Awakening or the Hit Squad album..

I'm still waiting for the so called Squadron Album and the Duets album

 

[Mike the Executioner]

So, @Awesome Wells, Erick really did plan the robbery against Parrish? Because the Beef DVD made it seem like Parrish was handling the business side, Erick handled the music side, and Parrish was a lot smarter about his money than Erick. Everyone felt like Erick should be making more and he didn't feel like Parrish was explaining anything about how the contracts and the splits worked.

 

[Awesome Wells]

So, @Awesome Wells, Erick really did plan the robbery against Parrish? Because the Beef DVD made it seem like Parrish was handling the business side, Erick handled the music side, and Parrish was a lot smarter about his money than Erick. Everyone felt like Erick should be making more and he didn't feel like Parrish was explaining anything about how the contracts and the splits worked.

It was never confirmed out loud, but PMD called the cops on him and told the police it was Erick. LOL!! Supposedly, the people that came to see him were some of E's people from around the way. P had his dad managing the group's finances, but he was taking most of the bread. Erick was trying to look into it with them, but they kept avoiding him. Then he saw that Parrish seemed to have a lot of luxury sh*t, and he wasn't seeing nearly as much bread to get the same, that's when the dudes ran up in Parrish's crib.

Parrish's dad had set up a separate account where he was paying himself and PMD, but left Erick out. So when they came back from touring, E had to hire another accountant to look into it, and that's when they found out that mad money had gone missing.

 

[Awesome Wells]

the bold is not completely true and Erick was wrong. Parrish had the Management company and was getting extra money manageming K-Solo and Das. Erick thought he was getting shafted and he wasnt. He wasnt putting in the same extra work P did. That's when he started producing for others.

Nah, it's 100% true. Erick was right.

K-Solo never dropped another album after EPMD's Business Never Personal. So there was no money coming in for him since he was locked up for a minute after '92. Shuma Management was a company that both Erick and Parrish founded. So for the first couple years of it, they were both getting bread from the company. Redman was managed under it too for his first album. After the breakup, the only act under it was Das EFX, and underground groups like Top Quality and the Knucklehedz and wack people like that. So Erick was long gone by the time all of that was happening. His issue was the bread that was stolen while he ran the management with Parrish.

Parrish never had any side companies alone while he was in the group. Erick founded Shuma with him. After the breakup, he went on to start Grand Royal and Redman left Shuma to go be with Erick. The Hit Squad tour was when Erick could see that the bread being made wasn't coming his way the way it was supposed to. Same way Solo said it when he spoke about how PMD was shady and had to stop dealing with him.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

SHADE business wasnt that bad. How did you like The Awakening or the Hit Squad album..

I'm still waiting for the so called Squadron Album and the Duets album

I loved The Awakening. I still have the autographed 8x10 on my wall that I got free with ordering the album from Sandbox 21 year ago. I was anticipating that due to the "look at you now" 12" he did with Erick. I used to cut those doubles up all the time. And you're correct, Shade Business wasn't that bad, but it was bad for that time. Coming off Business Never Personal 2 years prior, , it was garbage compared to that, buta decent album. You will always be compared to your last release initially. That's why IWW got so much criticism initially because people were expecting another Illmatic, but that was a great album.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Nah, it's 100% true. Erick was right.

K-Solo never dropped another album after EPMD's Business Never Personal. So there was no money coming in for him since he was locked up for a minute after '92. Shuma Management was a company that both Erick and Parrish founded. So for the first couple years of it, they were both getting bread from the company. Redman was managed under it too for his first album. After the breakup, the only act under it was Das EFX, and underground groups like Top Quality and the Knucklehedz and wack people like that. So Erick was long gone by the time all of that was happening. His issue was the bread that was stolen while he ran the management with Parrish.

Parrish never had any side companies alone while he was in the group. Erick founded Shuma with him. After the breakup, he went on to start Grand Royal and Redman left Shuma to go be with Erick. The Hit Squad tour was when Erick could see that the bread being made wasn't coming his way the way it was supposed to. Same way Solo said it when he spoke about how PMD was shady and had to stop dealing with him.

I was under the impression he had zero to do with Shuma, guess i stand corrected... :DAP!" I do know they wanted the entire hit squad to be under shuma. they wanted to control their own tour and etc... to bad it never officially happened.
I had people who was on that tour and told me about the backstage fight and they broke up.

 

[Yehuda]

Never knew Parrish was so crooked truth be told I never cared to look into their life story anyway.