Erykah Badu Discovers Her African Ancestry
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Interesting. I know a few people who've gotten those results.
They don't have enough samples, for the paternal (I think it's like 8 markers) nor maternal tests (HVRI only). Not only that but they don't actually give you your results. I know this because I heard them say this, themselves. Take my friend for example: her HVRI results at FamilyTreeDNA found like a dozen different individuals from various peoples. What African Ancestry does is give you 1-3 of these, arbitrarily..based on perceived likelihood. You're taking it to the bank, when you may not be directly related to those people at all or just have a similar ancestry. Granted, they're sometimes accurate, in individual cases.
I like FamilyTreeDNA and 23andme because you don't only get an ancestry painting, but relative matches directly comparing your DNA with other individuals. If you read the forums, there are people finding out they were born via sperm donor/other men...once mom or mom/dad are forced to come clean, adoptees finding their families either thru their parents testing or via cousins who's tested.You get a bunch of cousin matches which include everything from 1st cousins to a few generations back. So between myself and a couple of other family members, we share DNA with several continental Africans several of which I've had conversations with, so I know exactly where they're parents/grandparents are from. No need to speculate on sample size and accuracy.
African Ancestry gives a lot of Bamileke results. Yet, groups that make up darn near half of our ancestry hardly get any. They have a serious sample issue, which is why Cameroon gets more hits than can be accounted for, a lot (not all) of these people were actually in Nigeria, the Congos, and Angola, before the slave trade. These Y and mtDNA matches account for about 1 or 2 percent of your DNA, whereas the type I mentioned are autosomal (DNA on the 22 non-sex chromosomes).
Actually knowing who you are?
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They don't have enough samples, for the paternal (I think it's like 8 markers) nor maternal tests (HVRI only). Not only that but they don't actually give you your results. I know this because I heard them say this, themselves. Take my friend for example: her HVRI results at FamilyTreeDNA found like a dozen different individuals from various peoples. What African Ancestry does is give you 1-3 of these, arbitrarily..based on perceived likelihood. You're taking it to the bank, when you may not be directly related to those people at all or just have a similar ancestry. Granted, they're sometimes accurate, in individual cases.
I like FamilyTreeDNA and 23andme because you don't only get an ancestry painting, but relative matches directly comparing your DNA with other individuals. If you read the forums, there are people finding out they were born via sperm donor/other men...once mom or mom/dad are forced to come clean, adoptees finding their families either thru their parents testing or via cousins who's tested.You get a bunch of cousin matches which include everything from 1st cousins to a few generations back. So between myself and a couple of other family members, we share DNA with several continental Africans several of which I've had conversations with, so I know exactly where they're parents/grandparents are from. No need to speculate on sample size and accuracy.
African Ancestry gives a lot of Bamileke results. Yet, groups that make up darn near half of our ancestry hardly get any. They have a serious sample issue, which is why Cameroon gets more hits than can be accounted for, a lot (not all) of these people were actually in Nigeria, the Congos, and Angola, before the slave trade. These Y and mtDNA matches account for about 1 or 2 percent of your DNA, whereas the type I mentioned are autosomal (DNA on the 22 non-sex chromosomes).
Actually knowing who you are?
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This might make you well up...
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Think of a paternity test cross listed with databases of individuals around the world. Similar to that.
Of course not. The point isn't to overstate how accurate it can be and you're right about the development of certain ethnic groups etc.
I think there can be a number of issues with their test across databases of individuals methodology.
1. Who are these individuals? Are they actually Bamileke or Mandinka? If so, to what degree. Case example, Hausa-Fulani admixture in Northern Nigeria.
2. How broad is their sample collection? The only way for them to accurately prevent their findings is if they have gathered all ethno-linguistic genetic results in West and West-Central Africa (and Mozambique and Madagascar since a small minority of slaves came from there)
3. Is there actually a lot of genetic differences between say an Asante and a Fante person?
*If the tests state, "There's a strong likelihood that your ancestors come from such and such people. Additionally, your genetic tests may suggest that...." then I would have less of a problem with it. The way it has been presented in these youtube videos makes me skeptical.
before we go into detail here, are you bringing this up cause yuo've never tnought of this or do you think THEY haven't thought of this?I think there can be a number of issues with their test across databases of individuals methodology.
1. Who are these individuals? Are they actually Bamileke or Mandinka? If so, to what degree. Case example, Hausa-Fulani admixture in Northern Nigeria.
2. How broad is their sample collection? The only way for them to accurately prevent their findings is if they have gathered all ethno-linguistic genetic results in West and West-Central Africa (and Mozambique and Madagascar since a small minority of slaves came from there)
3. Is there actually a lot of genetic differences between say an Asante and a Fante person?
*If the tests state, "There's a strong likelihood that your ancestors come from such and such people. Additionally, your genetic tests may suggest that...." then I would have less of a problem with it. The way it has been presented in these youtube videos makes me skeptical.
Cause theres like a few years of coursework needed to even really have this discussion on here.
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Napoleon, i'm bringing up these issues because some consumers of these genetic testing products may not be fully aware of the various circumstances involving genetics, ethnicity and methodology with these products. Furthermore, the some of the creators of these products may be aware of these issues, but might not care enough to fully inform consumers about their limitations.
If there's a grain of truth about the accuracy of these tests, that's great. Nonetheless, awareness regarding the limitations of genetic testing pertaining to people who are as racially and ethnically mixed as black people in the U.S. should be spread.
Theres A LOT that goes into it beyond the mere simplicity of the marketing. But you're not taking a nuanced position to even look into how the work is done itself with some of the questions you're asking.
You know it was a black man that invented dirt, real talk.
Lets quit bullshyting.
Its not perfect, but 100 years ago we had NOTHING so fall the fukk back a little.
This shuold be required reading in here along with all the other related articles. Genealogical DNA test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The information about how this works is OUT here AND IS GETTING BETTER.
No need to remain ignorant to well answered questions and established understanding
Its not perfect, but 100 years ago we had NOTHING so fall the fukk back a little.
This shuold be required reading in here along with all the other related articles. Genealogical DNA test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The information about how this works is OUT here AND IS GETTING BETTER.
No need to remain ignorant to well answered questions and established understanding
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