ESPN names Luka Doncic 4th best player in the NBA

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Idk how they can put him over Harden yet. Luka gets to play heliocentric ball to put up big numbers. When Harden was playing heliocentric ball in Houston he was giving you seasons of 34/7/8, 36/7/8, 29/8/11, etc. Luka's giving you 28/8/9 on inferior efficiency :dahell:
Even if they wanna be number nerds about it Luka not on Harden's level, and once that point is made clear it's obvious who else he shouldn't be ahead of
 

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After 3 seasons?
Did T-Mac get treated like the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ by the media? Sure he was loved by fans but the media hype surrounding Luka is disgusting. And just fyi I'm a Hawks fan so there's a major reason why I can't stand him

Wtf does he Luka do that Harden hasn't besides getting his ass bounced in the 1st round?
 

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Did T-Mac get treated like the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ by the media? Sure he was loved by fans but the media hype surrounding Luka is disgusting. And just fyi I'm a Hawks fan so there's a major reason why I can't stand him

Wtf does he Luka do that Harden hasn't besides getting his ass bounced in the 1st round?
By Tmac's 3rd year as the star, he was 2 time All NBA first team, and one of the most popular players in the league, with the jersey sales, and visiting team attendances numbers to prove it.
Without a playoff series win.
Just like Luka

Two big differences were that Tmac didn't get minutes in his early years in Toronto, and "we're definitely in the driver's seat" comments haunted him after they lost that playoff series.
 

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Idk how they can put him over Harden yet. Luka gets to play heliocentric ball to put up big numbers. When Harden was playing heliocentric ball in Houston he was giving you seasons of 34/7/8, 36/7/8, 29/8/11, etc. Luka's giving you 28/8/9 on inferior efficiency :dahell:
Even if they wanna be number nerds about it Luka not on Harden's level, and once that point is made clear it's obvious who else he shouldn't be ahead of
He gets put over Harden because he actually shows the fukk up in the playoffs. As much as Harden has the regular season stats, you can't call a guy top five when he has looked much worse than his peers under the brightest lights multiple times.

And, yes, the postseason does matter in terms of player ranking.

Luka was going toe-to-to with Kawhi & PG, with both of them taking turns on him, plus Beverly, and he still cooked in that series.
 
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:patrice: Why is the bar so low for Luka to be deemd top 5 and ahead of Curry?

He has the weakest resume in ESPNs top 10 and everybody else in the top 5 has rings and had multiple deep runs in the playoffs. Theyve been battle tested.
He's been handed at top 4 title and aint even won a playoff series. Cmon now.

His body of work so far says barely top 10.
 

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He gets put over Harden because he actually shows the fukk up in the playoffs. As much as Harden has the regular season stats, you can't call a guy top five when he has looked much worse than his peers under the brightest lights multiple times.

And, yes, the postseason does matter in terms of player ranking.

Luka was going toe-to-to with Kawhi & PG, with both of them taking turns on him, plus Beverly, and he still cooked in that series.
Except Luka's lost to the same team in two playoffs in a row in round 1... Luka puts up volume points and assists, but he also turns it over a ton, plays no defense, and scores on just average efficiency

He's an amazing player, but he's not over Harden yet
 

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Idk how they can put him over Harden yet. Luka gets to play heliocentric ball to put up big numbers. When Harden was playing heliocentric ball in Houston he was giving you seasons of 34/7/8, 36/7/8, 29/8/11, etc. Luka's giving you 28/8/9 on inferior efficiency :dahell:
Even if they wanna be number nerds about it Luka not on Harden's level, and once that point is made clear it's obvious who else he shouldn't be ahead of
Luka has performed better in 2 playoff series than Harden’s entire career, what did Harden do last year that warrants him above Luka
 

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I mean I love steph,but is he damn near beating the clippers 2 years in a row with that dallas team?
You give Luka the team steph had this year and no way they lose in the play in.
 

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I mean I love steph,but is he damn near beating the clippers 2 years in a row with that dallas team?
You give Luka the team steph had this year and no way they lose in the play in.
The Clippers are perennial playoff chokers. What's so impressive about almost beating them?
 
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