ESPN Poll (90,000 votes) Kobe 61% Over LeBron

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Kobe wins polls like this because his fan base is made up of a bunch of insecure bytchmade fanboys. Instigating Stan wars is all you losers have left at this point. Kobe is retired his chapter is over. People not Kobe fanboys aren’t interested in this comparison. Lebron is being compared to the true goats, not overrated imitiations of the goat. This is like asking who’s better between mike and dr. J, no diss to doc.
So what about the player?..theyre willing to have the discussion and most say kobe. What does that tell you?
 

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people are stupid.

kobe/LeBron didn't become a thing until Jordan came out throwing kobe name in the mix as a shield.

this is just a diversion. kobe is not on that level. he was Iverson/TMac/Vince in a better situation.

You obviously don’t know hoops
 

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So what about the player?..theyre willing to have the discussion and most say kobe. What does that tell you?
Nothing.

Why do people act like players have some special insight that others cannot have? When you take a lot of the fanboy-ness out of it (which is a big part of this sort of thing)...when you take out the biases people have because of their preference for the aesthetics of one player's game over another's....and you try to look at things objectively....you get a more accurate answer of what the truth is.

Hell, most "fans" and "players" didn't even like to give Tim Duncan his due while he was playing because of how his game looked...or how un-flashy he was as a personality. It was only reluctantly as he was retiring and they took in the breadth of all his winning and records that they acknowledged (barely) how great he actually was.

The same will be done for Lebron...albeit to a lesser degree because for whatever reason Lebron stirs a certain level of hate that Timmy never did. (Arguably because the league was never considered Tim's, to have been taken from Kobe the way it was perceived that Lebron took it from Kobe...which is probably why so many of the Lebron haters are Kobe stans. This connection is not accidental.)
 
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I love no one wants to address the elephant in the room when it comes to Mike/Jordan/Kobe


Mike/Kobe were Derozen before the Triangle....Soon as Tex Winters shows up with his hippie friend Phil... They come legends....


Can it be ask that MAYBE Kobe and Jordan benefited from a great system while, the GOAT, Lebron IS the system?
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So what about the player?..theyre willing to have the discussion and most say kobe. What does that tell you?
What about the players? I can respect a player’s opinion but I won’t act like it’s the end all be all. Players are biased and emotional too. Mike is the goat to me, but look at his track record on evaluating players.

There is no logical based argument to make for Kobe being better than Lebron. The only argument that you can make is based on emotion where you disregard the facts in favor of your heart. For example, Kobe fans swear that he’s somehow a better offensive scorer than Lebron. Now the facts show that Lebron averages more points at a much higher fg% but thatfoesnt matter to Kobe fans because their heart/emotions causes them to believe in “alternative facts” ala trump supporters. There’s no reasoning with folk like that. You just point and laugh.

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fukk you bytch :camby:



No NBA fan is a trump supporter, fukk outta here with that bullshyt
Youre clearly too stupid to know what an analogy is, which just proves my point.
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Kobe just better and America agrees, can't you just accept it little pal ?

Its amazing to me that this is a debate and Kobe wasn't blessed with god like athleticism like Jordan and LeBron

Worked himself into being a Goat ...will always respect that.
 
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The only reason you like Kobe's style is because its a carbon copy of the style we all loved, MJ. There is nothing unique or one of a kind about his gameplay. You don't love kobe you love MJ.

As far as Bron liking the easiest path. You're completely off base or huffing paint as you typed this. At that point in Brons career he did not have the pull that he somewhat has now to make his team better. He had to play with what the Cavs put around him. Which was not really great or good. Even KG after years of playing with garbage in Minny eventually got teamed with Sprewell and Cassel.

Michael Jordan didn't play with the same degree of difficulty as Kobe. Also, Kobe had a lot more razzle-dazzle to his dribble.

Kobe took much of Jordan's style, and ramped up the degree of difficulty. Kobe never gave you a feeling of ease on the court. At least not to me. He'd shoot any shot, from almost anywhere, no matter how difficult it would be. Michael Jordan didn't play the game that way. MJ would add some degree of difficulty for the sake of giving the fans something, but Jordan was not going to go out there and consistently hoist up tough, long jumpers and threes. Jordan, like Lebron, prioritized efficiency. Kobe clearly did not.
 

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Nothing.

Why do people act like players have some special insight that others cannot have? When you take a lot of the fanboy-ness out of it (which is a big part of this sort of thing)...when you take out the biases people have because of their preference for the aesthetics of one player's game over another's....and you try to look at things objectively....you get a more accurate answer of what the truth is.

Hell, most "fans" and "players" didn't even like to give Tim Duncan his due while he was playing because of how his game looked...or how un-flashy he was as a personality. It was only reluctantly as he was retiring and they took in the breadth of all his winning and records that they acknowledged (barely) how great he actually was.

The same will be done for Lebron...albeit to a lesser degree because for whatever reason Lebron stirs a certain level of hate that Timmy never did. (Arguably because the league was never considered Tim's, to have been taken from Kobe the way it was perceived that Lebron took it from Kobe...which is probably why so many of the Lebron haters are Kobe stans. This connection is not accidental.)


funniest thing about this is that the league was never kobe's to begin with.

but yea, I agree with everything else.


You obviously don’t know hoops


very insightful response.
 
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