ESPN Ranks the Top 25 NBA Players

[Big Boss]

Wade plays with a guy named Lebron James.He took the least amount of shots since his 2nd year in the league.He hasn't fallen off he took a step back for the best player in the league and his knee didnt flare up until the playoffs

nikkas act like wade didnt drop 41 and 10 and damn near shot 70% wit a bum knee in a playoff game

These stans praise kobe for takin 31 shots and scoring 42 points wit 0 assists while the lakers got their ass whooped and eliminated or takin the most shots in the nba while shooting 43% and STILL not winning the scoring title while lebron and durant averaged 1 point less while taking 5 less shots a games

No need to glorify a hog.Kobe isnt a top 7-8 player in the nba.Wade>>>Kobe.I cant wait til this season starts

i have no problem with people ranking wade over kobe but to sit here and say kobe isn't top 8.

come on son.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

i have no problem with people ranking wade over kobe.

You should do, because it's entirely inaccurate.

 

[tremonthustler1]

top 10 player aint cant even carry his team to the fukkin playoffs

So if his team went to the playoffs because of someone else you'd change your mind?

 

[god shamgod]

i have no problem with people ranking wade over kobe but to sit here and say kobe isn't top 8.

come on son.

1.Lebron
2.Durant
3.Chris Paul
4.Dwight Howard
5.Kevin Love
6.D Wade
7.Derrick Rose
8.Russ Westbrook
9.Kobe

Paul = Best Pg,Wade = Best Sg,Lebron Best player Period,Durant 2nd best player in the league,Love = Best Pf,Dwight = Best C

You mean to tell me kobe is better than a 23 year old Derrick Rose or Russell westbrook? Is kobe better than Rondo or D will?

It's not far fetched bruh

 

[K-ZOE]

I'll elaborate:



The PG position has evolved; reaching it's apex at the moment with Rose, because at his core he's a so-called 'pure'/true point guard, except he doesn't have the flaws/inabilities that other 'pure' PGs in today's game have:

Paul: elite-athleticism, finishing at the rim, power
Nash: See above
Rondo: Where the hell do I start?

Now you may say Rose is an exception to the rule, nah he isn't, he's actually living antithetical proof that that term belongs in the bushes. Saying that Rose isn't a 'pure' point guard is implying that he's an impure point guard, which is FALSE, to folk that actually know about his history at the 1 spot. This is Hollinger's Pure Point rating scale (and yes, I do know that this isn't a definitive product in all people's eyes of what makes a pure point guard) -

Now tell me this - if Rondo had the ability of Rose would he still be looked at as a pure point guard?

I wish you didn't @ the bolded. Your post is all over the place.

This is more of your personal opinion you are trying to pass off as fact. Rose is my favorite individual player. But he is not a pure pg by the definition that I and every other person I've encountered that knows something about basketball defines it. You don't like that term for some reason. Ok I got it. But don't try to re-define the meaning of it because it's used to describe a player you don't like. Pure PG's are called that because of flaws and inabilities in their game? C'mon son. I'm not even sure you really believe that. I didn't read every post in this thread but I suspect you got some anti-Rondo bias going on. I'll answer your Rondo question when you answer mine about Magic, Stockton, and Nash.

 

[Big Boss]

1.Lebron
2.Durant
3.Chris Paul
4.Dwight Howard
5.Kevin Love
6.D Wade
7.Derrick Rose
8.Russ Westbrook
9.Kobe

Paul = Best Pg,Wade = Best Sg,Lebron Best player Period,Durant 2nd best player in the league,Love = Best Pf,Dwight = Best C

You mean to tell me kobe is better than a 23 year old Derrick Rose or Russell westbrook? Is kobe better than Rondo or D will?

It's not far fetched bruh

he's better than d rose

kevin love is top 5???

 

[Long Live The Kane]

he's better than d rose

kevin love is top 5???

Don't try to reason with one of the dedicated psycho-level kobe hater trolls, exercise in futility....agree to disagree

 

[god shamgod]

Only 34 year old in history who still was the best player in the nba/top 5 was



The Goat.accept it and move on b

he's better than d rose

kevin love is top 5???

Love put up 26 and 13 and Can shoot 3's and was puttin up games wit 30 and 20 he's the best Pf in the nba.He aint top 5?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I wish you didn't @ the bolded. Your post is all over the place.

This is more of your personal opinion you are trying to pass off as fact. Rose is my favorite individual player. But he is not a pure pg by the definition that I and every other person I've encountered that knows something about basketball defines it. You don't like that term for some reason. Ok I got it. But don't try to re-define the meaning of it because it's used to describe a player you don't like. Pure PG's are called that because of flaws and inabilities in their game? C'mon son. I'm not even sure you really believe that. I didn't read every post in this thread but I suspect you got some anti-Rondo bias going on. I'll answer your Rondo question when you answer mine about Magic, Stockton, and Nash.

How the hell did you come to the conclusion I was passing my OPINION as fact?

If Rose isn't a 'pure' PG, than what is he? What exactly is the definition of a pure PG in your lil' world? Is it a pass-first point guard? Is it a traditional point guard? Is it a player who orchestrates the offense? Does the player have to have a x-amount of years at the point guard position?

Re-define the meaning of it, you say? Who's the one that's guilty of passing their opinion off as fact now?

I just told you that term doesn't have it's place in today's game, the point guard position has evolved from that, therefore arguing about players that played the game decades ago is irrelevant to the argument. And I already covered Nash in my post. Go over and read it again.

 

[K-ZOE]

How the hell did you come to the conclusion I was passing my OPINION as fact?

If Rose isn't a 'pure' PG, than what is he? What exactly is the definition of a pure PG in your lil' world? Is it a pass-first point guard? Is it a traditional point guard? Is it a player who orchestrates the offense? Does the player have to have a x-amount of years at the point guard position?

Re-define the meaning of it, you say? Who's the one that's guilty of passing their opinion off as fact now?

I just told you that term doesn't have it's place in today's game, the point guard position has evolved from that, therefore arguing about players that played the game decades ago is irrelevant to the argument. And I already covered Nash in my post. Go over and read it again.

For starters, I came to that conclusion because this is your 1st time since addressing me that you acknowledged that it is only your OPINION. See the part I just bolded up there? It reads like it's supposed to be a fact, when it's clearly an opinion. "The term doesn't have a place in today's game". To who? You? Cuz you said it, it's true?

In my 1st post in this thread that YOU quoted, I described what a pure pg is. Maybe YOU should go read that again? Rose is a shot first, scoring guard that runs the point. And I love his game.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Rose is a shot first, scoring guard that runs the point. And I love his game.

WRONG

At his core (#1 ranked PG in HG & #1 ranked PG in College): ever since his time at Simeon, a number of scouting reports suggested he was a 'pure' point guard and drew comparisons to other like-wise PGs in the league at the time. I remembering reading them with my own two eyes. Rose has the ability to adapt between both -

Rose has proven that he can fit the “scoring point guard” role just as well as he can the “pure point guard role.

DraftExpress: Chicago Simeon vs. Oak Hill Academy Breakdown

Rose has added workload + traditional PG role(s), because this is what's required of him because his talent/athleticism doesn't just limit him to this predisposed take on what a PG supposes to do.

You say Chris Paul is a 'pure' point guard, implying that he's a pass-first PG; that's funny because during their time at their respective high schools, Rose averaged more assists than Paul and Paul averaged more points than him. Not to say Chris Paul doesn't fit this criteria of a 'pure' point guard, but if he does than so does Rose.

This is why the term 'pure point guard' has no place in the league today, it serves no purpose, it's a meaningless term that's lost in translation (Rose being a clear example), especially how you've got folk using it as reasoning to suggest x-point guard is better than Rose at the PG position because they're a PURE POINT GUARD. This fixation of this pure> mentality hinders all logic concerning the position - how many rings would that Celtic team win if they had Rose since '08, instead of the 'pure point guard' they have right now?

Exactly.

 

[Malta]

*Scouting Gil Scott-Heroin*
*taking notes*
*works on posting game*
*Prepares rebuttals for upcoming season*
*Calls Hakeem for improved post game*

See you during the season

 

[mr x]

Only 34 year old in history who still was the best player in the nba/top 5

Malone, Kareem were both top 5 at 34

 

[Kang Deezy]

Wade is way too high on this list. Dude was AWFUL in the playoffs.

 

[Oroko Saki]

at Wade, Rose, or westbrook being better then Kobe

Only player thats in the discussion with Kobe is Lebron