ESPN Ranks the Top 25 NBA Players

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

*Scouting Gil Scott-Heroin*
*taking notes*
*works on posting game*
*Prepares rebuttals for upcoming season*
*Calls Hakeem for improved post game*

See you during the season

*sees Malta posting up*

 

[HacksawJimThuggin]

Wade plays with a guy named Lebron James.He took the least amount of shots since his 2nd year in the league.He hasn't fallen off he took a step back for the best player in the league and his knee didnt flare up until the playoffs

nikkas act like wade didnt drop 41 and 10 and damn near shot 70% wit a bum knee in a playoff game

These stans praise kobe for takin 31 shots and scoring 42 points wit 0 assists while the lakers got their ass whooped and eliminated or takin the most shots in the nba while shooting 43% and STILL not winning the scoring title while lebron and durant averaged 1 point less while taking 5 less shots a games

No need to glorify a hog.Kobe isnt a top 7-8 player in the nba.Wade>>>Kobe.I cant wait til this season starts

so much truth in this post.

 

[Greenhornet]

in and out like p*ssy and penis
fukk this thread

 

[muzikfrk75]

@ taking these cacs seriously.

Word, someone who got surgery for a torn ACL is better than Kobe

Rose should be N/A or Inc

 

[Mic-Nificent]

It's like people are not understanding that this list is based on what these players did last year. Kevin Love, from what he did last year from a statistical stand point deserves to be ahead of Wade.

I think you mean last season.......as in the season where Kobe came in 4th in MVP Voting.

The fact that it's based on what they did last season is why some people are calling bullshyt on Rose being ranked higher than Kobe.

Rose's numbers dropped across the board and he missed half the season due to injuries but somehow he got bumped up in the rankings. The nikka had a worse season yet someone jumped 3 spaces on the list.

 

[K-ZOE]

WRONG

At his core (#1 ranked PG in HG & #1 ranked PG in College): ever since his time at Simeon, a number of scouting reports suggested he was a 'pure' point guard and drew comparisons to other like-wise PGs in the league at the time. I remembering reading them with my own two eyes. Rose has the ability to adapt between both -


Rose has added workload + traditional PG role(s), because this is what's required of him because his talent/athleticism doesn't just limit him to this predisposed take on what a PG supposes to do.

You say Chris Paul is a 'pure' point guard, implying that he's a pass-first PG; that's funny because during their time at their respective high schools, Rose averaged more assists than Paul and Paul averaged more points than him. Not to say Chris Paul doesn't fit this criteria of a 'pure' point guard, but if he does than so does Rose.

This is why the term 'pure point guard' has no place in the league today, it serves no purpose, it's a meaningless term that's lost in translation (Rose being a clear example), especially how you've got folk using it as reasoning to suggest x-point guard is better than Rose at the PG position because they're a PURE POINT GUARD. This fixation of this pure> mentality hinders all logic concerning the position - how many rings would that Celtic team win if they had Rose since '08, instead of the 'pure point guard' they have right now?

Exactly.

You tell me you're not gonna argue about players that haven't played in decades (of the 3 I asked you about Stockton retired in the 2000's and Nash is still playing), but you gonna use Rose's and CP3's HS stats to attempt to make your point? What are they now? Today in 2012? HS? Are you serious? Didn't Lebron play pg in HS? Should we add him to the convo?

Like I said in my 2nd post, we gonna have to agree to disagree. You don't like the PURE PG term, don't use it. Problem solved.

LOL @ the bolded and throwing 'EXACTLY' in there as if you have unquestionable proof the C's would've won more rings w/ Rose instead of Rondo. Rondo isn't the reason they only won 1 ring since 08, and you can't prove that with Rose at PG they would've still won in 08. Rose would be a different player on that team. He'd have to be a facilitator. IMO, he's not as good a facilitator as Rondo. But unlike you I have no crystal ball or magic mirror to prove these fantasy scenarios.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I think you mean last season.......as in the season where Kobe came in 4th in MVP Voting.

The fact that it's based on what they did last season is why some people are calling bullshyt on Rose being ranked higher than Kobe.

Rose's numbers dropped across the board and he missed half the season due to injuries but somehow he got bumped up in the rankings. The nikka had a worse season yet someone jumped 3 spaces on the list.

This, I couldn't make sense of it either...then I figured, maybe they're going by last year and projecting forward to this year as well....but then that doesn't make sense either cause Rose is gonna miss part of the season and recovering from ACL surgery when he does come back

 

[K-ZOE]

WRONG

At his core (#1 ranked PG in HG & #1 ranked PG in College): ever since his time at Simeon, a number of scouting reports suggested he was a 'pure' point guard and drew comparisons to other like-wise PGs in the league at the time. I remembering reading them with my own two eyes. Rose has the ability to adapt between both -


Rose has added workload + traditional PG role(s), because this is what's required of him because his talent/athleticism doesn't just limit him to this predisposed take on what a PG supposes to do.

You say Chris Paul is a 'pure' point guard, implying that he's a pass-first PG; that's funny because during their time at their respective high schools, Rose averaged more assists than Paul and Paul averaged more points than him. Not to say Chris Paul doesn't fit this criteria of a 'pure' point guard, but if he does than so does Rose.

This is why the term 'pure point guard' has no place in the league today, it serves no purpose, it's a meaningless term that's lost in translation (Rose being a clear example), especially how you've got folk using it as reasoning to suggest x-point guard is better than Rose at the PG position because they're a PURE POINT GUARD. This fixation of this pure> mentality hinders all logic concerning the position - how many rings would that Celtic team win if they had Rose since '08, instead of the 'pure point guard' they have right now?

Exactly.

I didn't really peep the bolded the 1st time. So what is it you believe? 1st you saying "PURE PG" is a term that masks flaws and inabilities in certain players, then you say Rose has the ability to slide between both. Which is it playboy? Sometimes D Rose needs his flaws covered and sometimes he doesnt?

 

[Mic-Nificent]

This, I couldn't make sense of it either...then I figured, maybe they're going by last year and projecting forward to this year as well....but then that doesn't make sense either cause Rose is gonna miss part of the season and recovering from ACL surgery when he does come back

Also if it was projecting going forward Bynum and Westbrook would have placed higher.

The more I think about it it's messed up that Rose is ahead of Kobe, but it's fukkED UP that Rose is ahead of Wade.

Wade falling down the list was expected due to his injuries and drop in production, but Rose was even more injured and his production dropped too.

 

[VegetasHairline]

at Wade, Rose, or westbrook being better then Kobe

Only player thats in the discussion with Kobe is Lebron

Stop living in the past. This is 2012 not 2002. Durant > Kobe

 

[Vlazz]

 

[Shameonyou]

how the fukk are the best pg and the best big man in the game not in the top 5 players? that makes no sense....lol @ chris paul not having impact im done here

 

[Houston911]

How is gasol rates so high and kobe is number 6?

Kobe should be ranked third

 

[Alexander The Great]

How is gasol rates so high and kobe is number 6?

Kobe should be ranked third

you would rank Kobe above CP3 and Dwight?

 

[Shameonyou]

my top 5 when healthy

1.Lebron 2.Durant (cp3 when aggressive in scoring) 3. Cp3 4. Wade 5.Howard


this is the most logical one