ESPN Reports Deflategate was about Goodell getting the Patriots back for Spygate

[Cole Cash]

So basically it kinda reminds me of when youre playing tecmo bowl and you call the other players play and just rush the QB and they have no chance to get the play off.

 

[Lefty Gunz]

Had to google when the last time you had a winning season. been awhile huh

2003 2003 NFL AFC West 3rd 4 -12
2004 2004 NFL AFC West 4th 5 -11
2005 2005 NFL AFC West 4th 4 -12
2006 2006 NFL AFC West 4th 2 -14
2007 2007 NFL AFC West 4th 4 -12
2008 2008 NFL AFC West 3rd 5 -11
2009 2009 NFL AFC West 3rd 5 -11
2010 2010 NFL AFC West 3rd 8 -8
2011 2011 NFL AFC West 3rd 8 -8
2012 2012 NFL AFC West 3rd 4 -12
2013 2013 NFL AFC West 4th 4 -12
2014 2014 NFL AFC West 4th 3 -13

A lots gone on in the world since you finished better than .500 ...let me remind you in case you're as retarded as you appear

1. The US invaded and occupied Iraq







2. Facebook launched






3. Smartphones were invented






4. Roughly 800 million people were born






5. Miley Cyrus turned 11 years old






6. Michael Jordan retired from basketball...






...played a ton of golf...






...then bought the Bobcats, and ran them for almost four years






7. Lebron James' entire NBA career








8. In Da Club topped the charts






9. The Raiders fired six different head coaches...






10. ...and more than fifteen different Raiders started at quarterback



Well, there's always next year. :itsalrightbreh:

 

[NYC Rebel]

NFL so salty taking that L in court.

Agreed.

But if as an organization you know you were protected when caught cheating years ago, you don't bite the hand that sheltered you.

Like I said long ago, Spygate should have been stated in detail. This also looks bad on the Pats regardless of how unscrupulous the news was pushed.

 

[Alexander The Great]

now Sports Illustrated is getting in on it
Rest of NFL still suspicious of Patriots' methods

exerts from article

Late last January, with Tom Brady under siege, Bill Belichick playing physicist, Robert Kraft going rogue and the country debating a strange controversy known as Deflategate, the Seahawks arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX. They were not too concerned with the Patriots’ latest “-gate.” But they had been warned about the potential for another one.

Multiple teams called Seattle, unsolicited, with advice on how to secure the team’s practices for the Super Bowl. Their message was clear: You’re not playing John Fox’s Broncos again. You’re facing Bill Belichick and the Patriots. You never know who might be watching.

The Seahawks trained in Tempe, on Arizona State’s outdoor practice fields, which left a large perimeter to secure. They worked hard to secure it. They hired extra guards and scanned any area nearby with a vantage point of the field. Security personnel monitored what locals call “A” Mountain, the 1,400-foot hill that towers above the university’s athletic complex. They combed the parking garage and parking lots between Sun Devil Stadium and the practice fields. And they checked around the boundary of the complex, where baseball and softball fields and various buildings provided clear views of Seattle’s Super Bowl drills. Several observers who have attended practices for other Super Bowls noted the unusual, Secret Service–like level of activity.

The Seahawks didn’t discover any covert operations. Most of the time New England’s opponents don’t.

But they almost always look.

At various times over the last decade, at least 19 NFL franchises took precautions against the Patriots that they didn’t take against any other opponent, people who worked for those teams told SI. Those concerns have not waned in the eight years that have passed since the Spygate scandal. The list of safeguards is long and varied. Teams commonly clear out trash cans in their hotel meeting rooms in New England because they believe the Patriots go through them. One longtime head coach said he ran fake plays in his Saturday walkthroughs at Gillette Stadium because he thought the Patriots might be spying on his team. Another team has taken things further: It fled Gillette and found a different place to practice, and on game day it piled trunks of equipment against the double doors in the back of the visitors’ locker room so nobody could get in. That same team kicked the visiting locker room manager out of the office he occupies near the clubhouse.

In September 2007 the Patriots were found to have illegally videotaped Jets coaches during a game, something opposing teams had caught them doing at least twice previously. The NFL fined Belichick $500,000, the organization $250,000 and took away a first-round draft choice—and long-held suspicions about the Patriots cheating under Belichick were legitimized. Whispers about their activities became a year-round conversation throughout the NFL. Belichick’s coaching brilliance has never been in dispute—his ability to prepare and adapt are legendary. But he is not trusted. Even in a league filled with coaches who cover their mouths with call sheets and guard injury reports like nuclear codes, many teams view the Patriots as willing to cross lines others won’t.

You could say the rest of the NFL is paranoid, and you might be right. What’s not debatable is that New England, because of that lack of trust, is inside opponents’ heads, forcing other teams to devote time, brainpower and resources to protecting themselves. Teams wonder why ball boys in Foxborough seem to stand closer to opposing coaches than they do anywhere else. It is common for opposing teams to have an employee guard their locker room all day when they visit Foxborough, something they rarely do for other road games. One team that played there in recent years put a padlock on the doors when it arrived on the Saturday before a game. The Patriots threatened to call the fire chief. When the visiting team challenged them to do it, the Pats backed down and the padlock remained. “There has never been a time when we have knowingly allowed a team to padlock doors,” says Patriots spokesman Stacey James. “That’s a fire code violation.”

Some of the security measures are small. It is standard NFL practice for home teams to help unload equipment from buses, but one AFC team won’t let the Patriots do it. Other precautions are extreme: At least five teams have swept their hotels, locker rooms or coaches’ booths in New England for listening devices, sometimes hiring outside professionals. None have been found.

And while the Pats insist Spygate is ancient history, other teams aren’t so sure. During one Patriots road game last season their opponent suspected a man was illegally videotaping them with an iPhone from the visiting sideline. The man wasn’t wearing New England team gear, but the people who were filming during Spygate often weren’t wearing team gear either. It felt too much like Spygate II for the home team’s liking, and the man was kicked out of the stadium. James says the team is unaware of any such incident and is sure “it never happened with a Patriots employee.”

The rest of the league has been on high alert in other ways too. The NFL has changed several rules over the last decade in response to issues raised about the Patriots or to close rule-book loopholes exploited by them, according to three people familiar with the competition committee’s decisions. In 2007, after the Patriots were accused of manipulating coach-to-quarterback radio systems and game clocks, the league mandated neutral operators for both in playoff games. After the Ravens complained about New England’s deployment of ineligible receivers in a playoff game last January, the NFL declared that in the future a formation the Patriots used will be illegal. (The Patriots say they confirmed the legality of the formation with the league before the Ravens game.) “[The Pats] were mentioned [in competition committee meetings] way more than anybody else,” one source familiar with the committee’s discussions in recent years said.

“All this stuff speaks to manifestations of the same thing,” says one NFL personnel executive. “It’s the Patriots, and it’s everybody else.”

 

[princeofhaiti]

Had to google when the last time you had a winning season. been awhile huh

2003 2003 NFL AFC West 3rd 4 -12
2004 2004 NFL AFC West 4th 5 -11
2005 2005 NFL AFC West 4th 4 -12
2006 2006 NFL AFC West 4th 2 -14
2007 2007 NFL AFC West 4th 4 -12
2008 2008 NFL AFC West 3rd 5 -11
2009 2009 NFL AFC West 3rd 5 -11
2010 2010 NFL AFC West 3rd 8 -8
2011 2011 NFL AFC West 3rd 8 -8
2012 2012 NFL AFC West 3rd 4 -12
2013 2013 NFL AFC West 4th 4 -12
2014 2014 NFL AFC West 4th 3 -13

A lots gone on in the world since you finished better than .500 ...let me remind you in case you're as retarded as you appear

1. The US invaded and occupied Iraq







2. Facebook launched






3. Smartphones were invented






4. Roughly 800 million people were born






5. Miley Cyrus turned 11 years old






6. Michael Jordan retired from basketball...






...played a ton of golf...






...then bought the Bobcats, and ran them for almost four years






7. Lebron James' entire NBA career








8. In Da Club topped the charts






9. The Raiders fired six different head coaches...






10. ...and more than fifteen different Raiders started at quarterback



Well, there's always next year. :itsalrightbreh:

Im a raiders fan and the levels of ether you just dropped ...even i couldn't tackle/debate ur claim

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Spygate shyt is old though so why should we care now. It is what it is

 

[Turk]

I'm taking this #Cheatriots shyt and running with it...IDGAF. That's my squad.

Cheatriots

 

[Geek Nasty]

They really went above and beyond. It makes you wonder what else they've done.

Assume EVERY rumor you heard about htem is true

 

[FS4LFE]

Still should have given Marshawn the ball.

 

[Geek Nasty]

If ESPN says it then it must be true

4 month investigation with something like 60 witnesses; you can discount some people for beign disgruntled losers but ex-players and ex-coaches for the Patriots?

 

[malbaker86]

Still should have given Marshawn the ball.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Pats Steelers 2002 AFCCG. Right after Hines Ward said the Pats knew all our plays and they could hear the Pats defense calling them as soon as THEY did.

shyt's been going on a LONG time and is STILL going on. Other shyt to keep in mind.

• Peyton talking about the Tapriots bugging the visiting locker rooms
• Tapriots were also busted abusing the injured reserve rules
• Rumors that the Tapriots had their defense miked up before it was legal. In one game against the Steelers, a Pats defender went down and the Steelers trainers went over to customarily assist. Belichick came running over yelling at them to get away from him (probably had a miked helmet at the time)
• Article also mentions they were JAMMING VISITORS HEADSETS and the NFL WITNESSED THE JAMMING IN PERSON after teams complained.

 

[LurkMoar]

Pats Steelers 2002 AFCCG. Right after Hines Ward said the Pats knew all our plays and they could hear the Pats defense calling them as soon as THEY did.

shyt's been going on a LONG time and is STILL going on. Other shyt to keep in mind.

• Peyton talking about the Tapriots bugging the visiting locker rooms
• Tapriots were also busted abusing the injured reserve rules
• Rumors that the Tapriots had their defense miked up before it was legal. In one game against the Steelers, a Pats defender went down and the Steelers trainers went over to customarily assist. Belichick came running over yelling at them to get away from him (probably had a miked helmet at the time)
• Article also mentions they were JAMMING VISITORS HEADSETS and the NFL WITNESSED THE JAMMING IN PERSON after teams complained.

 

[Da King]

shyt belongs in the bushes as well as anything that links to espn. such a joke of an organization, a puppet for the league. literally nothing new was provided in this article. just a rehash of everything that was already known re-released after the nfl took a black eye from the court. :belicamby:

:duncan:

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

could care less actually. patriots play their best when shyt like this is going on. see 2007. see 2014 SB :rings:

All Seattle had to do was give the ball to Beastmode

Sorry ass squad..I think I dislike them more than Dallas and the cheating ass Pats combined..