Ether is fukking hilarious brehs.

[blackslash]

Since you agree Jay-z is more an entertainer, it make you argument null. As an entertainer, Jay has a duty to appease the public for money. This is not art, it's now business.

You tryna be slick...sht aint gon work breh
Every artist thats in the rap game makes songs to entertain you. Plz dnt be the delusional stan to say otherwise.
Jay makes better art because the general population says so.
Look at you tryin to seperate art and entertainment as if its either or.
nikka plz...i will say this again..based on the general population Jay Z makes better art.
Some bitter cynical nas stans mere opinions cant change that

Dam look at yall dirty pathetic nas stans tryna erase all of Nas' l's with ur flawed reasoning. This sht is comedy

 

[duckbutta]

There were several thing that made either just...

1. To me, the entire song came off as Nas not even wanting to say that stuff about Jay. It came off as "aight Jay I was going to let it slide but you been bumping your gums a little to much so lets have a man to man talk". And it felt like he was holding back alot, it felt like the entire point of the song was to let Jay know that even with all the stuff he did say, he could have said more.

2. Some of the lines were just so . Like...if you take them out of the context of the song. Imagine you walk into a Burger King and you see four nikkas standing around and you can tell two of them are arguing back and forth, they both have the face, and they are talking just loud enough for you to hear some of it, and all of a sudden one of them says "You been on my dikk nikka, you love my style nikka!" Wouldn't you be like "Who the fukk just got sonned like that Imagine sitting down at a waffle house and you see three old men arguing and out of the blue one of them says "Yall nikkas deal with emotions like bytches" Wouldn't you be like "who just got sonned like that"...That is what I kept thinking when I first heard the song...How can one grown man talk to another grown man like this...and that is what Nas was doing...Nas was talking to Jay...no scratch that...Nasir Jones was talking to Sean Carter...

3. Even the most battle tested Jigga warrior has to admit that Jay is self conscious about himself, especially his looks, as he makes countless reference in songs about girls not messing with him until he got some money, so for nas to come at Jay from that angle was just...vulgar......"scared to smile they called you ugly"...that is bringing up some old 8th grade shyt...thats some deep rooted shyt...that's some shyt Jay prob use to right about in his diary ( today i smiled and they still called me ugly...how can i make it so they don't call me ugly anymore). Especially brutal was the "Foxy got you hot cause you kept your face in her puss...what you think you getting girls now because of your lucks? Negro please ( the negro please killed me )...this is just some shyt right here...I mean...Nas is insinuating that the only reason Jay can get women is because foxy told the women in the industry that jay eat the puss...so now these chicks is lined up to get they puss ate...not to have sex with you...to get they puss ate...not to dome you up...to get they puss ate...imagine as a man someone told you that..."nikka chicks only fukk with you because you eat p*ssy"...that just vulgar...

4. Jay was a much bigger artist at the time...but the entire song seems as if Nas is talking down to Jay...like, with all the money, the power, the fame, the women, Nas is still looking at Jay as a little nikka..."In 88 you were getting chased through your building calling my crib and I ain't even give you my number"...Jay is out here portraying himself as some big time drug dealer and Nas comes in and says "nah you was getting chased around and then you called me for help and I didn't even know you like that"..."smiling in my face glad to break bread with the god"... Damn Jay, you were so enamored with Nas you was just happy to be in the same room as him...just...vulgar...

As an added bonus...what happened to all of Jay's alter ego's around this time. Wasn't he Hovito then? Wasn't he the "Black Brad Pitt" then? Wasn't he Euro Hov and European Jay then? Ether shook Jay up so bad my man just straight up dropped all his alter ego's...that's just..vulgar

 

[USSInsiders]

You tryna be slick...sht aint gon work breh
Every artist thats in the rap game makes songs to entertain you. Plz dnt be the delusional stan to say otherwise.
Jay makes better art because the general population says so.
Look at you tryin to seperate art and entertainment as if its either or.
nikka plz...i will say this again..based on the general population Jay Z makes better art.
Some bitter cynical nas stans mere opinions cant change that

Dam look at yall dirty pathetic nas stans tryna erase all of Nas' l's with ur flawed reasoning. This sht is comedy

why are you trying to use the appeal to majority and have a logical argument?

I personally hate when you trapped in the past ass niccas still argue something that is relative, but at least make a better argument than that blood.

Music is relative, art is relative. There is no consensus on anything relative no matter what you try to do.

That boy Jay-Z isn't dying for you , and Nas isn't dying for these loser ass nikkas either

 

[Mac Casper]

You tryna be slick...sht aint gon work breh
Every artist thats in the rap game makes songs to entertain you. Plz dnt be the delusional stan to say otherwise.
Jay makes better art because the general population says so.
Look at you tryin to seperate art and entertainment as if its either or.
nikka plz...i will say this again..based on the general population Jay Z makes better art.
Some bitter cynical nas stans mere opinions cant change that

Dam look at yall dirty pathetic nas stans tryna erase all of Nas' l's with ur flawed reasoning. This sht is comedy

Sales make art now?

 

[Tom Foolery]

You tryna be slick...sht aint gon work breh
Every artist thats in the rap game makes songs to entertain you. Plz dnt be the delusional stan to say otherwise.
Jay makes better art because the general population says so.
Look at you tryin to seperate art and entertainment as if its either or.
nikka plz...i will say this again..based on the general population Jay Z makes better art.
Some bitter cynical nas stans mere opinions cant change that

Dam look at yall dirty pathetic nas stans tryna erase all of Nas' l's with ur flawed reasoning. This sht is comedy

You look ridiculous right now.

I'm talking about being an artist vs being an entertainer (read what I typed before). You agreed he is an entertainer and as an entertainer you have a duty to please the masses because that's how you maximize your earnings. An artist has no duty to do that.

 

[Never Broke Again]

dudes been in this topic since 5am backing jay

 

[Busby]

There were several thing that made either just...

1. To me, the entire song came off as Nas not even wanting to say that stuff about Jay. It came off as "aight Jay I was going to let it slide but you been bumping your gums a little to much so lets have a man to man talk". And it felt like he was holding back alot, it felt like the entire point of the song was to let Jay know that even with all the stuff he did say, he could have said more.

2. Some of the lines were just so . Like...if you take them out of the context of the song. Imagine you walk into a Burger King and you see four nikkas standing around and you can tell two of them are arguing back and forth, they both have the face, and they are talking just loud enough for you to hear some of it, and all of a sudden one of them says "You been on my dikk nikka, you love my style nikka!" Wouldn't you be like "Who the fukk just got sonned like that Imagine sitting down at a waffle house and you see three old men arguing and out of the blue one of them says "Yall nikkas deal with emotions like bytches" Wouldn't you be like "who just got sonned like that"...That is what I kept thinking when I first heard the song...How can one grown man talk to another grown man like this...and that is what Nas was doing...Nas was talking to Jay...no scratch that...Nasir Jones was talking to Sean Carter...

3. Even the most battle tested Jigga warrior has to admit that Jay is self conscious about himself, especially his looks, as he makes countless reference in songs about girls not messing with him until he got some money, so for nas to come at Jay from that angle was just...vulgar......"scared to smile they called you ugly"...that is bringing up some old 8th grade shyt...thats some deep rooted shyt...that's some shyt Jay prob use to right about in his diary ( today i smiled and they still called me ugly...how can i make it so they don't call me ugly anymore). Especially brutal was the "Foxy got you hot cause you kept your face in her puss...what you think you getting girls now because of your lucks? Negro please ( the negro please killed me )...this is just some shyt right here...I mean...Nas is insinuating that the only reason Jay can get women is because foxy told the women in the industry that jay eat the puss...so now these chicks is lined up to get they puss ate...not to have sex with you...to get they puss ate...not to dome you up...to get they puss ate...imagine as a man someone told you that..."nikka chicks only fukk with you because you eat p*ssy"...that just vulgar...

4. Jay was a much bigger artist at the time...but the entire song seems as if Nas is talking down to Jay...like, with all the money, the power, the fame, the women, Nas is still looking at Jay as a little nikka..."In 88 you were getting chased through your building calling my crib and I ain't even give you my number"...Jay is out here portraying himself as some big time drug dealer and Nas comes in and says "nah you was getting chased around and then you called me for help and I didn't even know you like that"..."smiling in my face glad to break bread with the god"... Damn Jay, you were so enamored with Nas you was just happy to be in the same room as him...just...vulgar...

As an added bonus...what happened to all of Jay's alter ego's around this time. Wasn't he Hovito then? Wasn't he the "Black Brad Pitt" then? Wasn't he Euro Hov and European Jay then? Ether shook Jay up so bad my man just straight up dropped all his alter ego's...that's just..vulgar

SAY THAT shyt!! ...FACTS nikkaS!!

 

[WeDemBoyz]

The homie @blackslash hov stanning is impeccable

WHat kind of rooting for the underdog breakdown shyt is this??

AGain I have to ask..are u dumb?

What Jay said in that line is what every artist does, he just the first to admit it

Its crazy how much you're reaching saying that that line where Jay tells Nas to switch up his flow is about selling out.

No dummy its about a nikka who couldnt make hits, a nikka who's flow was ehhh, stop reaching to somehow justify Nas being a damn loser his whole life outside of one diss track.

Jay married a woman who only wants him for his money????

What in God's name did you just say..

A woman who is richer than Jay married Jay for his money?? DF are u sayin breh?

Dude face the cold facts.. NAS FAILED IN THE RAP GAME...when I say fail I mean failed to reach the heights Jay did.

Simple and plain..not only that Jay beat Nas in everything u can think of

More money, the better broad, the better rap career, more critical acclaim, etc.

And you're still trying to say Nas somehow escaped this L..this ultimate L??

My nikka you have to be the most delusional Nas stan I have ever seen on this board

Nas and Jay are both in the rap game...both were in the same lane..

Jay just knew how to make better art than Nas..and you can try and argue but the people have already decided that.

Now I bet you're like "blah blah he's talkin about everything but rap"

Partly...but thats just to show that Ether superficial disses didnt stick
The people said he lost so he felt like he lost..so which is why he reacted the way he did.

Vulgarity seemed to be what put disses over so dnt be crying bout Jay bringing up the baby moms issue.

At the end of the day...Nas lost overall...he can keep his stupid underdog meaningless victory

While Jay Z is attaining more and more victories every year


shyt just think bout this

Nas' image is soo bad that a nikka like Gucci feels like he can come at him in the aspect of success

But ya as long as you Nas stans admit that Hov won where it mattered and that you're just desperate for a victory from your pathetic underdog rapping nikka that you have to keep referring back to an 11 year old diss track, then I'll leave yall alone

You are a terrible stan.

 

[blackslash]

You look ridiculous right now.

I'm talking about being an artist vs being an entertainer (read what I typed before). You agreed he is an entertainer and as an entertainer you have a duty to please the masses because that's how you maximize your earnings. An artist has no duty to do that.

Again u showin ur inconsistency cuz..nas is also an entertainer. He too is also in the entertainment bizz..hell even moreso thann jay cuz thats nas' primary source of income

 

[RisAri0]

"JJ Evans...."

 

[killacal]

2. Some of the lines were just so . Like...if you take them out of the context of the song. Imagine you walk into a Burger King and you see four nikkas standing around and you can tell two of them are arguing back and forth, they both have the face, and they are talking just loud enough for you to hear some of it, and all of a sudden one of them says "You been on my dikk nikka, you love my style nikka!" Wouldn't you be like "Who the fukk just got sonned like that Imagine sitting down at a waffle house and you see three old men arguing and out of the blue one of them says "Yall nikkas deal with emotions like bytches" Wouldn't you be like "who just got sonned like that"

 

[Tom Foolery]

Again u showin ur inconsistency cuz..nas is also an entertainer. He too is also in the entertainment bizz..hell even moreso thann jay cuz thats nas' primary source of income

Nas is an artist and makes money off his art. For example, when he scheduled his album to be called N igger, that is artistic in nature and not meant to appease the masses which is why it got changed. As is Distance Relatives, a mixture of hip-hop and reggae.

 

[darkmanp]

I'm a big Jay-Z fan, but I can't deny the venom in Ether. I like how each verse got more venomous as the song went on.

Verse 1: Nas just took pop shots, just a couple of disses (Hawaii Sophie etc.), causing superficial wounds (just a few scratches and bruises).

Verse 2: He took aim and shot em in both knees w/ more disses than the first verse (Gay-Z, Cock-a-Fella, Camel, dikk Sucking Lips, etc.). Jigga mortally wounded now.

Verse 3: Nas emptied the whole clip on him, diss after diss (too many to reference, listen to the damn song). Plus the last verse seemed to go on and on. A few places I thought the verse would end, but he just came with fire. He committed a fatality in that verse.

 

[blackslash]

Nas is an artist and makes money off his art. For example, when he scheduled his album to be called N igger, that is artistic in nature and not meant to appease the masses which is why it got changed. As is Distance Relatives, a mixture of hip-hop and reggae.

Oh so that's wat it comes down to?

What you personally classify as art..and anything outside of that u dismiss as mere entertainment. Yea just like a nas stan to create arguments based on nothing of concrete value

 

[88m3]

burns slow



What year is it again?