EU, Congress, and Silicon Valley Caught Political/Ideological Fade, Now Censoring Alt/Indy Media

[Saka]

posted this last week

we're about to see the greatest information war in history, some of you brehs won't make it with a good head on your shoulders now the establishment is coming after the alternative news media, they're trying to go back to the red scare days where you have a baseline of discussion in the media, online and in everyday conversation anything past the point and you're labelled a traitor. Then, it will be time to shape the narrative for future conflicts.

 

[newworldafro]

InfoWars, breh?

Yeah. Not to sound arrogant, but that contempt and slight is not working anymore breh. Its not that I agree with that site or any other site on every issue, cause I don't, but its 2016, not 2006 or 1996. As I said in the OP and thread, its the alt/indy media that was the real MVP of the election. If the alt/indy media was insignificant they wouldn't have made this provision to the NDAA.

Again, media that criticizes or provides an analysis not based in the status quo is alt/indy media. Umar, Tariq, and Boyce are all alt/indy media....how many times has Boyce said, they don't invite him to CNN anymore, because he is not going to play their game. The 1st Amendment protects all points of views, not just the views you agree with. Yet, this provision provides the basis to undermine it completely and arbitrarily.

This is wild stuff. It's been done incremementally for 15 years. They clip a piece off the Bill of Rights here, ignore it in the MSM, normalize it. Months later, water down an amendment there, let the MSM tell you we have to subvert freedom for "security" typically off of questionable premise like this Russia hack fable, normalize it. However, this is the first one of these incremental right removing laws that wholesale goes at the 1st Amendment.

Maybe I'm not cogently and precisely explaining the impact of this provision. I'm not sure what to say other than this is going to be the trampoline for literal censorship, fines, licenses and more to jump off against freedom of expression...which we are suppose to be free of obstructions through the 1st Amendment

 

[BaggerofTea]

It's liberal democracy catch 22.

If they continue to allow purposely false information to pervade the media scape liberal democracy will fall apart

But when you make information controlling provisions such as these you are putting liberal democracy on ice.

 

[BaggerofTea]

@newworldafro

The media is a private entity. They can have whatever viewpoint they want on

 

[newworldafro]

It's liberal democracy catch 22.

If they continue to allow purposely false information to pervade the media scape liberal democracy will fall apart

But when you make information controlling provisions such as these you are putting liberal democracy on ice.

It's not a Catch-22. Either you have a 1st Amendment or you don't. Who exactly brought up "fake news"....was it not the MSM that avoids certain topics, doesn't allow certain viewpoints, etc. I keep going back to GMOs as an example, when was the last time you heard Fox News or CNN have.a discussion on glyphosate or some of the large global marches....I guarantee there are no interviews.

So, you have it backwards, liberal democracy falls apart when information is stifled.

Brehs...yall need to to understand the MSM that came up with the phrase "fake news" are the networks and publishers that create green screen locations for stories, and have been since the 1990s. So who are the purveyors of "fake news"?

@newworldafro

The media is a private entity. They can have whatever viewpoint they want on

I absolutely agree the MSM can share whatever viewpoint they want. The 1st Amendment protects their speech too.
Of course we know the MSM are bootlickers and will follow in line of whatever corporation is paying their advertising or follow in line of a particular administration's "official" perspective. This provides even more significance to the alt/indy media. There are 6 mega MSM corporations. You right these are 6 private perspectives, but they are really an oligopoly. The more perspectives you have the more opportunity there is for the public to get more accurate an unbiased information. This is why this provision was put in the NDAA, which is to limit perspectives and analysis.......

 

[BaggerofTea]

It's not a Catch-22. Either you have a 1st Amendment or you don't. Who exactly brought up "fake news"....was it not the MSM that avoids certain topics, doesn't allow certain viewpoints, etc. I keep going back to GMOs as an example, when was the last time you heard Fox News or CNN have.a discussion on glyphosate or some of the large global marches....I guarantee there are no interviews.

So, you have it backwards, liberal democracy falls apart when information is stifled.

Garbage comment. Liberal democracy is stifled and out right in danger with one of two things

1. Information sources and output is stifled.

2. Information that is available is tainted and manipulated to a point where facts are fiction and fiction are facts.

Both situations leads you to an Orwellian paradise where objectiveness is no longer a reality.

At least by stifling outlandish media outlets posing as legit news sources you can at least preserve liberal democracy for a little while longer.

I absolutely agree the MSM can share whatever viewpoint they want. The 1st Amendment protects their speech too.
Of course we know the MSM are bootlickers and will follow in line of whatever corporation is paying their advertising or follow in line of a particular administration's "official" perspective. This provides even more significance to the alt/indy media. There are 6 mega MSM corporations. You right these are 6 private perspectives, but they are really an oligopoly. The more perspectives you have the more opportunity there is for the public to get more accurate an unbiased information. This is why this provision was put in the NDAA, which is to limit perspectives and analysis......

I agree with you about the media conglomerate, there needs to be a heavy deregulation of how media organizations can entire a specific medium.

However I can careless about "alt-right" opinions. Most of those outlets push white supremacist and outright racist points of view.

Personally I believe you should be allowed to, but at the same time its makes discourse that much more dangerous

 

[Family Man]

They can start by getting rid of Facebook and Twitter. Especially Twitter.

 

[thekingsmen]

Garbage comment. Liberal democracy is stifled and out right in danger with one of two things

1. Information sources and output is stifled.

2. Information that is available is tainted and manipulated to a point where facts are fiction and fiction are facts.

Both situations leads you to an Orwellian paradise where objectiveness is no longer a reality.

At least by stifling outlandish media outlets posing as legit news sources you can at least preserve liberal democracy for a little while longer.






I agree with you about the media conglomerate, there needs to be a heavy deregulation of how media organizations can entire a specific medium.

However I can careless about "alt-right" opinions. Most of those outlets push white supremacist and outright racist points of view.

Personally I believe you should be allowed to, but at the same time its makes discourse that much more dangerous

@newworldafro I'll let u take care of this.

 

[Black Nate Grey]

Good.

 

[ORDER_66]

They can start by getting rid of Facebook and Twitter. Especially Twitter.

I like twitter....

Besides they cover news stories faster than the mainstream media dont even acknowledge... Also the MSM has media blackouts sometimes the alternative is an outside news source...

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

It's liberal democracy catch 22.

If they continue to allow purposely false information to pervade the media scape liberal democracy will fall apart

But when you make information controlling provisions such as these you are putting liberal democracy on ice.

There is no catch 22..if Some media outlets are really spreading lies then whichever media outlet keeps putting out Truth will rise in credibility and viewership....and hence money and accolades as well

but unfortunately thats NOT the establishment media...MSLGBT, FAUX news and Clinton News Networks getting their clocks cleaned by RT ,Al jezeera and various Internet sources...now since the establishment cant expose them they need the government to grab a gun and make them STFU.

 

[newworldafro]

Talk radio hosts and bloggers may be included in White House press briefings

Oliver Laughland
Sunday 15 January 2017 20.49 EST

"Talk radio hosts and bloggers could be invited to official White House press briefings once theTrump administration takes office, under a highly irregular proposal being floated that may also remove briefings from the West Wing.

Trump’s pick for White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, said on Sunday that due to “off the chart” interest in the new administration, the president-elect was considering moving briefings from theJames S Brady press briefing room, which has been used by presidents to address the media since 1970, to a venue with a greater capacity.

A report published by Esquire magazine on Saturday indicated the venue could be inside theOld Executive Office Building, just west of the White House.
Spicer argued the proposal would mean “you can involve more people, be more transparent, have more accessibility”. He suggested that this would mean outlets that are not traditionally part of the White House press corps would be able to ask questions during presidential press briefings.

“There’s a lot of talk radio and bloggers and people that can’t fit in right now and maybe don’t have a permanency because they’re not part of the Washington elite media,” Spicer said, “but to allow them an opportunity to ask the press secretary or the president a question is a positive thing. It’s more democratic.”

Around 200 journalists make up the White House press corps. The Brady press briefing room holds 49 seats for major media organisations, which are granted space by the White House Correspondent Association (WHCA). The Guardian is among those outlets allocated a space.

“I know change is difficult sometimes,” Spicer told Fox News. “But sometimes change can actually be better."

"Mainstream Mediasaurus" | Zero Hedge

 

[Pressure]

Use zero hedge and infowars for your non biased alt-right related news.


Breh...

 

[EndDomination]

This is an important thread. I don't have anything to add, but I am watching it. Why the fukk is it so quiet tho?

Links are trash, his posting style is weird and incredibly hard to hold any interest in, and the content is bland.

 

[newworldafro]

Facebook will crack down on fake news in Germany ahead of election - SiliconANGLE

So imagine next time the U.S. election comes around, the amount of censorship FB is going to possibly employ.