Ever wonder why we still haven't cured cancer?

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didn't watch the video but it's pretty simple and disheartening as to why we can't cure cancer as a whole

If you think about just how many genes are in the human genome and all the simple ways they can be altered and accidentally result in overgrowth of cells, it would seem nearly impossible to figure out how to cure cancer as a whole. There won't be no one way to solve each type of mutation that results in overgrowth of cells i.e.: this was a result of a mutation of some signaling pathway not being turned off while another might be a mutation to a gene like p53 of the cell cycle and its inability to stop one of the growth phases for a type of cell.

Add in all the different types of cells and tissues and genes in our bodies and it's hard to cure cancer from a preventative aspect. I do think over time we'll get better and better at treating cancer and coming up with innovative treatments. but foh if you think they're going to come up with a vaccine, foolproof diet, or something preventative to stop the presentation of cancer. I'm sure we'll also get better at figuring out what reduces/increases the risk of certain cancers (i.e. smoking and lung cancer)

I don't know just my two cents. If you really think there's some sort of diabolical thing going on, more power to you :rudy: There may also be some way out there dangerous treatments untested or in early stages. I saw one recently where they were giving the polio virus and it was resulting in the shrinking of certain types of brain tumors but it causes a fukk ton of inflammation prior to the shrinking of the cancer. One woman passed away due to maybe getting too much of the Polio virus in her body, but for some other people it's worked.


And if you play the percentages its like 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women incidence rate of cancers. That incidence rate is so high it kind of explains that cancer can show up in so many individuals there's not some underlying cause that we can just fix with one stroke. I think we can get better with approaches and treatments. Also finding a way to make the cost more affordable even for those individuals with insurance to seek the best treatment


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hopefully some of that made sense, it's been a while since I took a genetics course or something like that
 

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Or another way to look at it is into genomics research. If we had a super strong understanding of the entire genome and then cross reference with known mutations that cause cancer, maybe we could find at an early age what your risk of developing a certain type of cancer with a certain type of mutation. Gene splicing and other genetic manipulation techniques could also be an interesting way to look at things

I still think we're a long ways out though. I'm not a researcher by any means, but I oft dream of a world where a lot of the defense spending of the US was instead allocated to research, science, and education :to:
 

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went surfing and saw these articles

ALARMING Rise in Cancer Deaths as Facts Reveal Billions in Profits!
Submitted by IWB, on May 31st, 2015


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http://investmentwatchblog.com/alarming-rise-in-cancer-deaths-as-facts-reveal-billions-in-profits/



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Monday, June 01, 2015
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140107102634.htm




The American Cancer Society finds steady declines in cancer death rates for the past two decades add up to a 20 percent drop in the overall risk of dying from cancer over that time period. Progress has been most rapid for middle-aged black men, among whom death rates have declined by approximately 50 percent.
 

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well the thing is..you wanna keep your customers alive. so maybe yall are right that drug companies dont want cures for certain things, but I would think they would at least produce better drugs that keep their clients from being boxed up and 6 feet under. I mean chemo only works for so long...injected insulin doesnt guarantee that a diabetic will live a long life...AZTs dont always keep HIV patients looking like Magic Johnson.

or maybe Im just bias because Im in that field

They would still make money. People will always get sick. You will have an endless amount of people to cure.

Companies make money off vaccines, which is the cure all of cure alls. Because the amount of people who will need vaccines is endless.

Companies are always trying to be the first to find a better drug.
 

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140107102634.htm




The American Cancer Society finds steady declines in cancer death rates for the past two decades add up to a 20 percent drop in the overall risk of dying from cancer over that time period. Progress has been most rapid for middle-aged black men, among whom death rates have declined by approximately 50 percent.


i would think that any billion dollar organization with the ceo making $3 million a yr has a vested interest in not finding or hiding a cure.

i took a quick look at the link you posted and saw that you cut off this sentence.

"Nevertheless, black men still have the highest cancer incidence and death rates among all ethnicities in the US."
 

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Crazy. As a diabetic, I have always thought this. Was picking up my overly-priced insulin yesterday and was talking about this with the pharmacist.

Makes not sense for any company to cure anything when they have been stacking for decades.:snoop:

:mjcry:

fukking racket I tell ya. Every time I have to pick my supplies up I get pissed. Vicious cycle.
 

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As many people said in this thread though...business.

Think about it this way.

A car dealership don't wanna give you a car that lasts forever, cause then they wouldn't get the lifetime payments of customers.

Medical industry don't wanna give you a cure that lasts forever, cause then they wouldn't get the lifetime payments of customers.
 

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Except for the fact that most companies that research this shyt spend most of their money on R&D. Only a few of their drugs end up hitting it big. They're a business, sure, which means they aren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts but for profit. Drugs are priced so high because there are a few companies who make the most of them because they need that money to devote to researching other drugs.

It's nice to think of them as evil though. It would actually make more sense for a company to cure something as that would be the best goddamn PR in the world. Imagine the drugs someone could market if they find out a way to cure breast cancer.

It'd be like movie trailers out here. "From the people who brought you the cure for breast cancer comes..."

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fukking racket I tell ya. Every time I have to pick my supplies up I get pissed. Vicious cycle.

As many people said in this thread though...business.

Think about it this way.

A car dealership don't wanna give you a car that lasts forever, cause then they wouldn't get the lifetime payments of customers.

Medical industry don't wanna give you a cure that lasts forever, cause then they wouldn't get the lifetime payments of customers.

Makes more sense to rent out a room for $5k/mnth for 30+ years (Total: $1.8M) vs. selling outright for $500k.
Knowing that there is a cure for diabetes and these greedy companies would rather see people "suffer" is abominable and :mjcry:-worthy.
 

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Makes more sense to rent out a room for $5k/mnth for 30+ years (Total: $1.8M) vs. selling outright for $500k.
Knowing that there is a cure for diabetes and these greedy companies would rather see people "suffer" is abominable and :mjcry:-worthy.
There isn't a cure for diabetes out right.

Often times you're treating a range of symptoms related to the disease and its outcomes.
 
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