Every Biggie Line Has Some Type Of Logic To It

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I'm on holiday without a laptop but this is a great thread.

Would love to add more detail.


I've always said there's 2 things in particular that made Biggie a genius orat least 2 particularly individual traits. Both pure literary and poetic devices. The first is his use of assonance, alliteration, internal rhyme schemes in a fluid fashion. But the other is the vivid imagery - the small details of his storytelling. Just the description of Arizona Ron from Tucson. Starts off depicting how he likes the slow jams - you don't expect such a killer. As his description goes on you can see something is wrong pathologically with this man.

The 'nothing to lose, tattooed around his gun wounds, everything to gain embedded to his brain'. Is just ill on a rhyme level the repeated T sounds in the first half, repeated E in the second. 5 rhymes in 2 bars but it sounds slick as hell. But for a good rapper that's not that special. Jadakiss can do that all day. But what put BIG over the top was the imagery of intent from that line. The way it's ordered and worded with embed it likens his mindset of 'everything to gain' to the deep permanance of the tattoo first bar. Working to reinforce in 1 slick line Arizona Ron does not give a single fukk. He's been shot, presumably almost died and has no regard to it.


Even in the opening verse the way he skips back and forth in the conversation. Without being heavy handed he has a back and forth conversation without saying 'I said' 'he said'. Introduces a boss, the plot and the context. You got Frank's character. Every line is just drenched in detail and relevance. Not a bar wasted. Biggie and them pictures man. There's nobody close to him in that sense. It's that creativity, the choice of words and how seamlessly he put them together puts him in a league of his own in many facets as a lyricist.

If I had the time I'd break down some of the less obvious genius of his writing.

Exactly....That "he said, I said" shyt's too basic & lazy.

Jay had a song dedicated to Big where he did the whole "he said....I said" thing and it just came off to me.

I'm not trying to turn this into a Jay vs Big debate, but people always act like Jay totally filled the void.

I think Jay's a great rapper.Especially '96-'03....But I never saw him as a rap "phenomenon" like I did Big.

Stylistically, they're very similar, but Jay could never make a "Niccaz Bleed".....Even at 23-24, Big had already displayed levels Jay has yet to reach in his career.

 

[Farrinto]

Of course they have some logic to them:

"nikkas...Grab ya dikk if you love hip hop..."

"Don't you know my nikka gutta fukkin kidnap kids, fukk em in the ass , throw em' over the bridge."

"You think I'm p*ssy, I dare u to stick ur dikk in this!"



And the best for last:

"You look so good, umm, I'd suck on your daddy's dikk."







GAY fukkING LOGIC!!!

 

[Pimp]

The point of that line was to be over the top.

Big was trying to illustrate that his crew is filled with str8 savages who are ruthless

The line is supposed to be extreme and make you feel

It's probably the most gangsta line I ever heard in rap.. it's like if you knew you was facing a team that was capable of doing that you wouldn't dare beef with them..

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Ron passed the Gasoline that nikka passed me Kerosene

Fukk it, It's flammable
My hunger is unexplainable


Even though Ron did some illogical shyt, don't matter.You're dealing with a man who has a hunger that can't even be explained.

By any muthafukking means necessary

 

[Murkman]

fukking retard... The first one was obviously a joke.. originally from Richard Pryor.

The second one is the most brutal thing you can do. You would rather be shot or tortured than fukked in ass... Genius lines if you think about it.

Still a dumbass Pryor joke when he had 100's of better ones Biggie could have used. And what is genius about common East Coast methods of instilling torture or fear? Besides throwing somebody into the rivers, feet's tied to cement blocks and shyt or using a piano wire to strangle somebody straight out of Godfather.

 

[Pimp]

Big had straight up demonic lines..
"You're bleeding lovely/with your spirit above me/ OR BENEATH ME/ YOUR WHOLE LIFE YOU LIVED SNEAKY/ now you rest eternally sleepy/ you burn when you creep me/sleep where the worms and the weak be"

Man that's some fukked up shyt...
Then he ends the song with no remorse.. Just pure punishment.

 

[Menelik II]

fukking retard... The first one was obviously a joke.. originally from Richard Pryor.

The second one is the most brutal thing you can do. You would rather be shot or tortured than fukked in ass... Genius lines if you think about it.

"nikkas test they luck-n they get a butt fukk-n,
straight up the ass raw dog with a rash
And I don't fck with the condom"

 

[Pimp]

Still a dumbass Pryor joke when he had 100's of better ones Biggie could have used. And what is genius about common East Coast methods of instilling torture or fear? Besides throwing somebody into the rivers, feet's tied to cement blocks and shyt or using a piano wire to strangle somebody straight out of Godfather.

You're a p*ssy... I would have someone rape my enemies kids then kill them so they can think about how bad they fukked up coming at me.. People are OK with you killing members in their crew.. They just don't want torture..

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

"If you die, they still get paid...Extra probably"

Cold.....This niccaz mind generated some of the most terrible characters..Horrific

 

[Pimp]

"nikkas test they luck-n they get a butt fukk-n,
straight up the ass raw dog with a rash"

Sounds pretty painful

 

[Pimp]

Brutal .. Dude was extreme

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Go ahead..I dare you.
Let's see how a man with repetitive uninteresting rhymes is witty

Pac was all hype.

Apples & Oranges, really.

Both phenomenal in their own way IMO

 

[feelosofer]

Biggie really told the tales of sociopathic element of humanity, he was masterful at it, on top of being such a technically skilled lyricist.

 

[MouseTeeth]

Biggie also has arguable the BEST opening lines of any rapper ever....think about any iconic BIG verse...i can say the first line and immediately u can rap the entire verse...

"It was all a dream.."

"who the fukk is this? pagin me at 5:46 in the mornin.."

"Armed and dangerous.."

"Who shot ya?.."

"So ya wanna be hardcooorre.."

"When it comes to SEX.."

"HOT, sicker than your average..."

""When the Remy's in the system.."

"First things first, I Poppa.."

"1970 something..."

"Live from bedford stuyvesant..."

"When i die fukk it i wanna go to hell..."

"Remember back in the dayssss.."

"I used to get feels on a bytch.."

"I know how it feel to wake up fukked up.."

"I'm sittin in the crib dreamin about lear jets and coupes.."

"Your reign on the top was short like leprechauns..."

"hahahaha check out this bizarre..."

"I been in the game for years, it made me an animal..."

"BIG P-O-PP-A, no info for the DEA..."

""I make yo mouthpeice obese like della reese..."

"relax and take notes!!..."

"Some say the X, makes the sex spec-tacular..."

"Today's agenda.."

"I kick flows for ya..."

"When the limelight hits..."

I could "Go, on and on and on and..." and its fukkin incredible when you think about it....for him to be so influential off just TWO albums is something else....GOAT voice too

 

[ThaRealness]

So Out Of All His Lines These Are The Ones That Stuck To You For The Last 19 Years?

These dudes is wild mango hating on B.I.G.