Every day that goes by vindicates Ice Cube more and more

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So it's about audience now? The message I quoted put experience on the ground and background in activism as the decisive factors. Things that Cardi B doesn't have over Ice Cube.

And I don't remember Cardi B proposing any plan for Black Americans.


:francis:uh yeah...its why Trump parading Lil Wayne and Lil Pump,,,
 

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Yes it is about audience, why else would be speaking to a celebrity?

Improved access to healthcare, increased minimum wage and all these "race blind" programs all help Black Americans. It doesn't sound as fancy as a platinum plan but it probably works better in reality. A lot of those race plans are hard to pass and weird to implement.
So he allocates time to talk to a celebrity for his press run (because audience helps to win) but not to activists with actual demands which must only be heard after the elections?
 

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I doubt the team of a presidential candidate didn't have a consequent say so in who would do the interview.

Even if it was part of his press campaign, it's still time he decided to allocate to chit-chatting with Cardi during the presidential campaign, and not even the grassroots activists we were talking about.
Not understanding.
I wasn't sure if your first post was serious, but I answered it for clarity.

Are you switching the goal posts on me once it was confirmed to you that this interview was done for a platform owned by a big media company?

Biden's media team screened media requests, and granted/scheduled them as they saw fit. The pivot to "bu bu bu but they(team Biden) chose Cardi "makes no sense.

During the campaign, I'm sure Biden had town halls, discussions, speeches, interviews with regular Americans and (advocates for) every socioeconomic group in America. He did on his schedule, not theirs.

The videos,transcripts, and articles about the campaign are still up.
 
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We have to be careful of anyone who claims "you're a trump supporter " just because you dont love their white daddy biden or the dems.
The majority of black Americans aren't loyal to either party... even if most Voting black Americans do vote dem.
We know that neither party cares for us... but we've been pimped out by 1 party exclusively for over 50 years... like some sambo bytches.
Most importantly- the main objective for anyone black speaking in the media should be our financial and social goals, specifically OUR goals...
So we have to watchout for sellouts who Get upset about that or claim that 1 white man is worse than another.

As far as my personal view about Biden- policy for policy (pound for pound) Joe Biden is the most prolific raicst politician of the last 40 years, if we're focusing on speeches, policies authored , and impact.
I think trump was a racist before his 4 year run as a politician... but can't compare to an old dixiecrat. Also.... i think if the goal is to Push a political person... its easy to push one who doesnt think he Owns black people and thinks he is a black folk savior. But i could never vote for trump,
For other reasons that arent relevant to this.
 

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Not understanding.
I wasn't sure if your first post was serious, but I answered it for clarity.

Are you switching the goal posts on me once it was confirmed to you that this interview was done for a platform owned by a big media company?

Biden's media team screened media requests, and granted/scheduled them as they saw fit. The pivot to "bu bu bu but they(team Biden) chose Cardi "makes no sense.

During the campaign, I'm sure Biden had town halls, discussions, speeches, interviews with regular Americans and (advocates for) every socioeconomic group in America. He did on his schedule, not theirs.

The videos,transcripts, and articles about the campaign are still up.
Biden did not make time or even considered the experienced grassroots activists that are responsible for the abolitionist discourse. I'm talking about people such as Mariame Kaba from Chicago. Instead, he and other moderates/liberals pushed back hard against the concept until it was about defunding the police. Which Biden pushed against as well.

He made no time for BLM activists neither.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...er-activists-demand-police-reform/6224812002/

After Biden accepted the presidency, Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors wrote an open letter to Biden and Harris saying “we want something for our vote” and asked for an immediate meeting.

To date, no meeting has been set, which is concerning, said Melina Abdullah, co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles and co-director of Black Lives Matter Grassroots, a national organizing arm of the organization.

“Hopefully this is just a delay,” said Abdullah, who also is a professor of Pan-African studies at California State University, Los Angeles. “We need to be sure this administration realizes that Black people voted out Donald Trump. Because of us, we saw a massive turnout and a rejection of blatant racism.”

And when he finally had time on his schedule to address those experienced activists, he chose these NAACP folks (which he berated and disrespected, as he can do with people who have no leverage)

(That's no disrespect to the NAACP, but this year might as well not have happened)

I don't care whether or not Cardi B's interview was done for "for a platform owned by a big media company".

He has time for her and his press campaign, no time for Black activists that move the needle, time to scold Black activists that don't move it and voted him in.

And no time for Cube, who is inexperienced and doesn't have an audience that could be useful (cf other poster who is saying it's about audience).

Even though, somehow, that inexperience doesn't matter anymore once Biden is voted in (since his team is willing to meet Cube after the fact) and Cube is a fool for not realizing that him trying to get leverage for Black Americans could affect the presidential campaign... Given his audience.

I'll leave it alone though. Discussing it won't lead anywhere. It's already done.
 

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What trump is doing now, isnt the point about Cube.

Sambos who attacked him for trying to Push OUR agenda to both parties or at least get a convo going... have been eating their words and we having even seen anything yet.
Every day Biden proves the point more..
If you can understand the point.

The problem is he didn't really try to push the agenda to both parties. He said himself that he wouldn't meet with Harris.
 

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Cube was. Right all along hold both party accountable.

Biden treating black leaders like hoes and going to do nothing for black folks.

Cube made the contract for black america to give specific tangibles to black people.

The truth always wins over the bullshyt
There was no "contract" with Trump just smoke, mirrors and grifting. Trump had 4 years to help black Americans. All he did was add to their pain and support groups that want them dead. Biden not listening to black leadership is not a good look but it's nothing compared to the guy that wants to suppress your voice, have you die(Coronavirus) and shyt on you while doing it.
 

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Cube further exposed how folks can be an activist, capitalist, anti-American, and shill for a political party, while "demanding" societal changes :heh:
Exactly. You're going to shyt on both sides and then demand they listen to you? Trump listened for votes and to say hey I'm not racist I'm talking to black Americans. It's the equivalent of the KKK inviting black Americans to dinner and calling it community outreach. Nothing Trump agreed with cube could be enacted by Trump

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