Every day that goes by vindicates Ice Cube more and more

[Still Benefited]

I guess their argument is that if Biden (who they think is already in office) is a poor president that means the Republicans were being sincere about wanting to help the Black community.

How many months have passed since Ice Cube did that? How many of Ice Cube's suggestions have they implemented? And how many times did they use Ice Cube's name/face to promote their campaign?

Cube looking smarter by the day,Cubes emotions making him get involved just came way too late in the game. I said it as well before the election that due to the growing hispanic populations,black peoples time for "demanding" anything from democrats was about to expire. So Cube was actually right to try to get something from Trump as desperate as it looked. But truth be told black people might not have another 4 years before your vote is deemed as neccessary as it was this past election,especially when those illegal immigrants start being ushered in and given voting rights. I know you heard those leaked calls, and I know that hit you when he told those black leaders "Yall are going to have to start working more with latinos". They only need you to get into the office and win the house one last time so they can open up those latino floodgates,and then you will be treated like an old dog on its last leg. By the time next election cycle comes around black folks will have no choice but to roll with that "people of color" verbiage dems like to use if we want tangibles.We tried to warn you all of this,I told you this would be Biden once he got the votes,and this was exactly his arrogant tone in that meeting with black leaders as they tried to be heard and make demands.


He cant wait to bring these latinos in so he doesn't have to pretend to listen to all of these black needs anymore.Hes so smug on the inside because he knows whats coming even though yall don't

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Cube looking smarter by the day,Cubes emotions making him get involved just came way too late in the game. I said it as well before the election that due to the growing hispanic populations,black peoples time for "demanding" anything from democrats was about to expire. So Cube was actually right to try to get something from Trump as desperate as it looked. But truth be told black people might not have another 4 years before your vote is deemed as neccessary as it was this past election,especially when those illegal immigrants start being ushered in and given voting rights. I know you heard those leaked calls, and I know that hit you when he told those black leaders "Yall are going to have to start working more with latinos". They only need you to get into the office and win the house one last time so they can open up those latino floodgates,and then you will be treated like an old dog on its last leg. By the time next election cycle comes around black folks will have no choice but to roll with that "people of color" verbiage dems like to use if we want tangibles.We tried to warn you all of this,I told you this would be Biden once he got the votes,and this was exactly his arrogant tone in that meeting with black leaders as they tried to be heard and make demands.


He cant wait to bring these latinos in so he doesn't have to pretend to listen to all of these black needs anymore.Hes so smug on the inside because he knows whats coming even though yall don't

Like I said in the HL thread about the call, not only was the call shytty but I wouldn't be surprised if Biden released it himself, because it really wasn't any different than what we already knew of him.

I disagree with your idea that he "can't wait to bring those Latinos in" though, during both the primary and general he was shytty as hell at latino outreach, much worse than he did with Black folk. It was one reason why Bernie killed him in Nevada. I haven't seen any way in which he's any more favorable to Latinos. He's just a centrist like the other Democratic centrists. He doesn't get it.

I disagree with you that the leverage isn't there. The leverage was there this year and is there every year, but it's there in the PRIMARY. The primaries are where Black folk control the direction of entire states. The primaries are where Biden's presidential campaign was saved with Black support. There is some degree of influence in the general election in a few of the midwest swing states (and hopefully Georgia going forward), but there is far far more influence in the primaries and it needs to be used better. The fact that something like 1/2 of Black voters in South Carolina didn't decide until the last week, and 60% of those said they turned on a Jim Clyburn endorsement, is a freaking travesty.

 

[Losttribe]

Like I said in the HL thread about the call, not only was the call shytty but I wouldn't be surprised if Biden released it himself, because it really wasn't any different than what we already knew of him.

I disagree with your idea that he "can't wait to bring those Latinos in" though, during both the primary and general he was shytty as hell at latino outreach, much worse than he did with Black folk. It was one reason why Bernie killed him in Nevada. I haven't seen any way in which he's any more favorable to Latinos. He's just a centrist like the other Democratic centrists. He doesn't get it.

I disagree with you that the leverage isn't there. The leverage was there this year and is there every year, but it's there in the PRIMARY. The primaries are where Black folk control the direction of entire states. The primaries are where Biden's presidential campaign was saved with Black support. There is some degree of influence in the general election in a few of the midwest swing states (and hopefully Georgia going forward), but there is far far more influence in the primaries and it needs to be used better. The fact that something like 1/2 of Black voters in South Carolina didn't decide until the last week, and 60% of those said they turned on a Jim Clyburn endorsement, is a freaking travesty.

His choice in Agriculture secretary and the politics behind it... pretty much shows were Biden stands and will stand.

 

[Losttribe]

It's Amazing that slaves keep bringing up trump and defending their daddy Biden. The point isn't just about Cube, but about the black articles, other figures and groups that were also dissed as Trump supporters or radicals just because they didnt believe in supporting a pedophile dixiecrat who disses black leaders every chance he speaks, says You aint black, and has the worse politcal record for black communities out of any single human for the last 45 yrs. The point is that.... some people feel a real black agenda should be a requirement for black vote.

 

[3rdWorld]

Has Cube given an update yet on when Trump will release CWBA funding before January 20th?

 

[Still Benefited]

Like I said in the HL thread about the call, not only was the call shytty but I wouldn't be surprised if Biden released it himself, because it really wasn't any different than what we already knew of him.

I disagree with your idea that he "can't wait to bring those Latinos in" though, during both the primary and general he was shytty as hell at latino outreach, much worse than he did with Black folk. It was one reason why Bernie killed him in Nevada. I haven't seen any way in which he's any more favorable to Latinos. He's just a centrist like the other Democratic centrists. He doesn't get it.

I disagree with you that the leverage isn't there. The leverage was there this year and is there every year, but it's there in the PRIMARY. The primaries are where Black folk control the direction of entire states. The primaries are where Biden's presidential campaign was saved with Black support. There is some degree of influence in the general election in a few of the midwest swing states (and hopefully Georgia going forward), but there is far far more influence in the primaries and it needs to be used better. The fact that something like 1/2 of Black voters in South Carolina didn't decide until the last week, and 60% of those said they turned on a Jim Clyburn endorsement, is a freaking travesty.

based on those calls it sounds like he reviewed the demographics and discovered he needs to be less shytty with latinos based on the numbers. Its all about strategy and who can be used to win what states. Seeing the way democrats were able to take some traditionally red states or be competetive due to demographic shifts.Im sure they are aware of the new groups they need to lock down like they have locked up the black vote. What are black people going to do afterall,threaten to not vote again like the past two elections but still come out in huge numbers? You heard that call you know he is an ungrateful piece of crap who doesn't acknowledge the states blacks helped him when. He's worried about how black people "almost" made his punk ass lose. And I disagree theres more leverage when jobs are at stake then when nominations are at stake. Sure you can get candidates on the line to make promises. But that doesnt mean they have to actually do what they say as Biden wants you to believe he will. Cube was right,we technically had more leverage with Trump. Trump is just so bad no black person wants to be seen even pretending like they could vote for him due to backlash you will recieve. But at the end of the day thats part of the game during negotioatins,pretending you are listening and open to other offers. I don't blame black people for not being willing to do that with Trump though,he is a repulsive man. But some share the same view of Biden based on his past and look right as rain based on that leaked call. But no he doesn't actually care about latinos either,but dems will use who they can use for as long as they can use them.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

ain’t nobody getting a check especially not black folks. This shyt was and still is a mess.

 

[HarlemHottie]

He's not even going to use an "excuse" to avoid giving reparations, it ain't even on his radar. 70+% of the country still opposes reparations including 80% of White people, until we get the needle moving there then ain't any president even gonna think about it seriously.

ADOS is trying but no one will listen. (I don't see you post pro ados shyt, so I'm including you too. )

If we can't even get on board with the biggest reparations movement of our generation, how can we possibly win over wp and other Americans?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

His choice in Agriculture secretary and the politics behind it... pretty much shows were Biden stands and will stand.

Unfortunately a point, as I wrote two weeks ago:

I'm here to say on post #40....maybe the Dems need to think a lot less about how they campaign and a lot more about actually solving rural issues?

Corporate agriculture has fukked over rural families and rural communities for generations, it keeps getting worse, and they hold rural governments and populace hostage and tell them its their way or the highway. And the Democrats have HELPED that happen, the corporate takeover of rural America has been completely bipartisan. If Democrats can actually stand up for the family farmer and other rural small businessmen and stop kissing corporate ass they would have a chance of saving rural communities, and then that would be some kick-ass shyt to run on in the rural races.

But of course, Biden just appointed a corporate lobbyist to head the Department of Agriculture yet again....

ADOS is trying but no one will listen. (I don't see you post pro ados shyt, so I'm including you too. )

If we can't even get on board with the biggest reparations movement of our generation, how can we possibly win over wp and other Americans?

I've for reparations for over 20 years, I don't use the term "ADOS" because I constantly see it used to create division between Black folk. But you have a point - only 75% of Black folk support reparations - how we gonna get White (20%) and Latinos (45%) more on board if 1/4 of the Black community itself doesn't even see it as valid?

 

[satam55]

I just listening to Sonnie Johnson Yesterday. She made a great point that Trump fucced up bad by not pushing the Platinum plan when he 1st got into office & hammering it locally.

 

[HarlemHottie]

I've for reparations for over 20 years, I don't use the term "ADOS" because I constantly see it used to create division between Black folk.

Im shocked that Mr Primary Source is going off what he heard ppl say.

And it doesn't matter what you as an individual been caping for. Bp had been fighting for civil rights for centuries but it took a movement, headed by sometimes "problematic" leaders, to accomplish real gains.

 

[EndDomination]

His choice in Agriculture secretary and the politics behind it... pretty much shows were Biden stands and will stand.

I think just as we're aware that Biden putting Black people into his cabinet means nothing for the material conditions of Black people nationwide, that Latinos realized that having a Latino in the cabinet will also not change anything.

 

[BulletProof]

Cube's in my top 5 but keep in mind he's in a far different tax bracket than when he was a militant during his Reagan/Herb Walker Bush days.

No matter how he tries to rationalize it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Im shocked that Mr Primary Source is going off what he heard ppl say.

What else would I go off of for that?

And it doesn't matter what you as an individual been caping for. Bp had been fighting for civil rights for centuries but it took a movement, headed by sometimes "problematic" leaders, to accomplish real gains.

I agree, and I've said that repeatedly on here. We need leaders in this who know how to move, know how to organize, and are willing to sacrifice. I think Coates has the writing shyt down as well as anyone, he's helped grow it enormously and convert millions of people, but he's not a leader/organizer. I haven't been impressed with any of social media leaders who keep spitting bullshyt or making bad moves and bogging themselves down in infighting. I haven't seen the successful organization there. I know we have different opinions on that front.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I just listening to Sonnie Johnson Yesterday. She made a great point that Trump fucced up bad by not pushing the Platinum plan when he 1st got into office & hammering it locally.

Don't you claim that you ain't a Republican but you're listening to obscure Tea Party Republican radio hosts now?

She even writes for the confirmed racists at Breitbart.

Think that Trump "fukked up" by not making Black needs a priority and isn't just openly racist and focusing on an entirely different base brehs.