Every day that goes by vindicates Ice Cube more and more

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The problem is people don't see an issue with both parties throwing a middle finger up the American people, they'd rather engage in character assassination aimed at Ice Cube.
But that has little to do with his actions. The assumption already was that the DNC doesn't care about Black people, they're just a mildly better alternative to the open hostility of the GOP.

Ice Cube running a sort of victory lap before actually getting anything done, and both the liberal sycophants running an outrage machine against him, and the conservative shills using him to sell Trump all led to the present public image damage.
 

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So wait a minute, is the plan for all black ppl to live in suburbs?

I thought you were saying our already existing communities should be "suburb-like" in the sense of them being safe, relatively close-knit communities with no need for police.

And for that to happen, there needs to be a shift of the mindset in our communities and it's up to us to drive societal changes like that.
The idea is to have policing "like" the suburbs - no more of that "broken windows" monitor the block for crime and target vulnerable young Black people bullshyt.

It is mildly short-sighted, but not for any of the reasons people who oppose the idea have said.

"Mindset" isn't the primary or even the secondary issue here - material resources and education are vastly more important.
 

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None of this is Even remotely true. :russ:

How you gonna argue a point when 100% of your "facts" are wrong :mjlol:


This ain't true either. What's wrong with yall? :heh:
What part of what I said is untrue?
Cube posted that he reached our the DNC and reached out to the GOP and got a response from the GOP.

They then started tagging him in posts, calling him "brother", photoshopping MAGA on photos of him and using him for advertising - with no indication of the "Platinum Plan" actually being enacted.
 

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This takes community planning with the community leading the way. Im not saying it's not possible but what I am saying is that in the situation described there, the onus is on the community, not the government.

And nothing is stopping the community from doing that right now... so why aren't we?
It's not "community planning."

It takes governmental capital. Policing is local, state, and national policy - driven by capital allocated. Changing where the capital is allocated changes the measures taken by a police department.
 
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The idea is to have policing "like" the suburbs - no more of that "broken windows" monitor the block for crime and target vulnerable young Black people bullshyt.

It is mildly short-sighted, but not for any of the reasons people who oppose the idea have said.

"Mindset" isn't the primary or even the secondary issue here - material resources and education are vastly more important.



Mindset is the issue because we have a brotha whose thread about getting shot 3 times is stickied at the top of TLR.

How do you take police out of Chicago and expect it to turn into a suburb like utopia?

You cant. There has to be a societal change in us as a ppl before you can even entertain the idea of removing the police.

Because I can tell you right now, as a person that's never had to call the police, I dont want them gone.

I'm sure the brotha who got shot doesn't want the police gone either.
 
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The idea is to have policing "like" the suburbs - no more of that "broken windows" monitor the block for crime and target vulnerable young Black people bullshyt.

It is mildly short-sighted, but not for any of the reasons people who oppose the idea have said.

"Mindset" isn't the primary or even the secondary issue here - material resources and education are vastly more important.




And I get you're not saying to remove the police. But you are saying to pull them back.

You can't pull back the police in a place like Chicago.

Not until you get a hold on the mindset of the community.
 

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How would allocating resources to mental health and social services that provide a solution to the underlying issues "empower the mob and criminals."

And do you know what an "anarchist" is?
While it would be a good thing to have, how would that have prevented Mike Brown's death or even George Floyd?
 

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How would allocating resources to mental health and social services that provide a solution to the underlying issues "empower the mob and criminals."

And do you know what an "anarchist" is?

The defund the police philosophy has never been about people with mental health issues and social services. It was in response to all of the media highlighted police incidences with people of color. They want them dismantled

It's a trojan horse in order to empower criminals and the mob. The police and the national guard are the only thing that is standing between people's property and protection from crime and anarchy. Think back to the craziness of the George Floyd riots.

Just like with BLM, they use the energy created from the plight and death of black men and transfer it over to their own agendas.
 

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We've had threads on here recently that speak to this. One of the most recent threads was about how we don't support black business owners. I can tell you right now that white ppl have no issues supporting each other, but we do.

I think we have to come to grips with the fact that we have a problem in our community that others don't have.

White Americans haven't had to contend with 400 years of supremacist institutions stifling every attempt they've ever made at progress. The root of Black America's issue is White Supremacy and its constant interfering with Black America's right to self-determination. To compare us to White people in this country when their existence here has been one big handout is flawed and borderline c00nish.

We're basically running a 100 meter dash vs. a White contestant who gets to start at the 50 meter mark. But then to ensure the White contestant wins, the Organizer comes out with a sledgehammer and breaks our legs. We clearly lose the race at this point but for some reason instead of the Organizer being blamed for breaking our legs or the White man for getting a head start we get blamed for not trying hard enough,.

So we internalize that and we heal and we try harder and we beat the White dude viciously. The White community is outraged and to make sure this never happens again, the Organizer puts hurdles in our lane to make it just a little bit harder for us. So now in order to win we have to be able to jump over hurdles while the White man can just run unimpeded with his head start.

You're looking at this race and telling the Black man that he is losing races because he doesn't practice as hard as the White man. That the White man just has more dedication and a family culture built around racing. Other Black people are looking at you in disgust because you're ignoring the fact that the White contestant and the Organizer are in cahoots to sabotage the Black man every time he even looks like he's about to win.
 
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