Everyone who talks about reparations, but I never hear an actual number?
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i feel like i need 1500-2000 a month for the rest of my life to right this wrong
I WANT FIDDY MILLION!!!
But I’ll settle right now for having my debts cleared and free school for all the brehs and brehettes.
But I’ll settle right now for having my debts cleared and free school for all the brehs and brehettes.
It's not impossible by any means you just have to understand what motivates White supremacy (the economy) and attack it. If ADOS got together and put pressure on the democrats and then boycotted lets say Walmart, Walmart's CEO would be calling up the President like "nikka you need to get these muhfukkaz reparations our numbers are all the way down". If corporations that depended on the Black dollar knew that they could be next they would work with the government, who they control, to fix this shyt. They used to own us a property and we were able to reverse the course on that...if that can happen don't say anything is impossible.
Free college for us and our children (or student loan debt forgiven)
Subsidized housing credit on your taxes
Free public transportation
A fund specifically allocated for black home/land ownership and low interest business loans
This over a 20-50 year span wouldn’t bankrupt the country and it would allow for upward mobility in the black community
Subsidized housing credit on your taxes
Free public transportation
A fund specifically allocated for black home/land ownership and low interest business loans
This over a 20-50 year span wouldn’t bankrupt the country and it would allow for upward mobility in the black community
Take It In Blood
Banned
Truth be told, no amount of money is acceptable in exchange for 400+ years of slavery, death and rape
Money shouldn't be a goal. The government should be obligated to do everything in it's power to insure that the black median wealth collectively is equal to that of white people collectively.
No matter how much it cost or how long it takes, only then would things be even
Money shouldn't be a goal. The government should be obligated to do everything in it's power to insure that the black median wealth collectively is equal to that of white people collectively.
No matter how much it cost or how long it takes, only then would things be even
InGodWeTrust
Tall & Handsome in ATL
I could spell this out for you but dont feel like doing your research 
dj-method-x
Superstar
1.38 trillion is still a low number to me but here you go OP:
Slavery reparations are workable and affordable
Slavery reparations are workable and affordable
Matthew Yglesias
Ta-Nehisi Coates' essay on "The Case for Reparations" is much more a call for a moral reckoning with the legacy of white supremacy in America than it is a detailed accounting of what a reparations policy would look like. The more wonkishly inclined might prefer a specific proposal, so here's a place to start: we could close the wealth gap between black households and white households by directing the Federal Reserve to print $55 billion a month for 25 months and divide the proceeds evenly among every African-American.
The black-white wealth gap
Attempting to reckon with vast historical crimes played out over multiple centuries is hard. It's better to start at the end — with a desirable outcome. What would it take to close the gap in wealth between black and white households?
Unfortunately for the cause of precision, in the United States wealth is measured at the household level while race is a property of individuals. But roughly speaking, the average American household has 2.55 people so closing the $85,000 household wealth gap would require a transfer of approximately $33,300 to each African American individual. There are about 41.4 million black people in America, so we're talking about approximately $1.38 trillion.
Isn't that an awful lot of money?
It is. But it's a tiny fraction of what was actually stolen.
In his book Capital in the 21st Century, Thomas Piketty shows that in the decade before the civil war, the total value of black people held in bondage was about 100% of national income. Indeed, with the application of considerations related to compound interest it is possible to derive figures into the quadrillionsas the appropriate recompense. And that's just slavery. As Coates shows, the economic damage of white supremacy continued unabated well into the second half of the twentieth century.
By contrast, national income in 2013 was $16.8 trillion so the idea of transferring $1.38 trillion to black Americans to close the racial wealth gap is far from crazy relative to the magnitude of the crime.
The appropriate payor is the United States government
Who would pay the $1.38 trillion?
It is obviously not practical to collect $1.38 trillion from individual white households. But more broadly, the issue is not individual acts of wrongdoing but a collective American legacy. The appropriate payor is the United States government which, conveniently, has the ability to print United States dollars in unlimited quantities.
The Federal Reserve Act would not, as written, allow the Fed to print $1.38 trillion and transfer it to individual African-Americans. But a reparations initiative could direct them to do so.
Wouldn't that destroy the economy?
Probably not. Right now the Federal Reserve is engaging in $45 billion per month of quantitative easing, printing money and using the proceeds to buy US government debt and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds. Before May, they were doing $55 billion per month.
At the $55 billion per month pace, it would take 25 months — just over two years — to transfer the full $1.38 trillion to black America. Any potentially inflationary impact of the money-printing could be offset by halting quantitative easing immediately. If that's not enough to fully offset the impact, that would actually be good news since as Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank President Narayan Kockerlakota observed earlier this week the Fed is currently generating less inflation and less job growth than it says it wants. If at some point during the two year span inflation did become undesirably high, the Fed could offset that by increasing the interest rate it pays on excess bank reserves or through conventional monetary means.
Could you really rectify centuries of racial injustice this easily?
Sadly, no. Even if the racial gap in median wealth were eliminated, it would still be the case that there's a substantial racial gap in median income. Lurking behind that gap is a gap in educational attainment. Unless those were rectified, the racial wealth gap would reemerge over time.
Beyond that, equalizing financial wealth would hardly level the overall playing field. Formally discriminatory public policies are a thing of the past, and public discourse is increasingly intolerant of blatant displays of racism but many studies show African-Americans are disadvantaged by widespread (and often unconscious) biases in a range of contexts.
Monetary reparations are generally viewed as an extreme idea, but the reality is that financial leveling is one of the aspects of racial inequality that it would easiest to fix if the country wanted to.
Slavery reparations are workable and affordable
Slavery reparations are workable and affordable
Matthew Yglesias
Ta-Nehisi Coates' essay on "The Case for Reparations" is much more a call for a moral reckoning with the legacy of white supremacy in America than it is a detailed accounting of what a reparations policy would look like. The more wonkishly inclined might prefer a specific proposal, so here's a place to start: we could close the wealth gap between black households and white households by directing the Federal Reserve to print $55 billion a month for 25 months and divide the proceeds evenly among every African-American.
The black-white wealth gap
Attempting to reckon with vast historical crimes played out over multiple centuries is hard. It's better to start at the end — with a desirable outcome. What would it take to close the gap in wealth between black and white households?
Isn't that an awful lot of money?
It is. But it's a tiny fraction of what was actually stolen.
In his book Capital in the 21st Century, Thomas Piketty shows that in the decade before the civil war, the total value of black people held in bondage was about 100% of national income. Indeed, with the application of considerations related to compound interest it is possible to derive figures into the quadrillionsas the appropriate recompense. And that's just slavery. As Coates shows, the economic damage of white supremacy continued unabated well into the second half of the twentieth century.
By contrast, national income in 2013 was $16.8 trillion so the idea of transferring $1.38 trillion to black Americans to close the racial wealth gap is far from crazy relative to the magnitude of the crime.
The appropriate payor is the United States government
Who would pay the $1.38 trillion?
It is obviously not practical to collect $1.38 trillion from individual white households. But more broadly, the issue is not individual acts of wrongdoing but a collective American legacy. The appropriate payor is the United States government which, conveniently, has the ability to print United States dollars in unlimited quantities.
The Federal Reserve Act would not, as written, allow the Fed to print $1.38 trillion and transfer it to individual African-Americans. But a reparations initiative could direct them to do so.
Wouldn't that destroy the economy?
Probably not. Right now the Federal Reserve is engaging in $45 billion per month of quantitative easing, printing money and using the proceeds to buy US government debt and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds. Before May, they were doing $55 billion per month.
At the $55 billion per month pace, it would take 25 months — just over two years — to transfer the full $1.38 trillion to black America. Any potentially inflationary impact of the money-printing could be offset by halting quantitative easing immediately. If that's not enough to fully offset the impact, that would actually be good news since as Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank President Narayan Kockerlakota observed earlier this week the Fed is currently generating less inflation and less job growth than it says it wants. If at some point during the two year span inflation did become undesirably high, the Fed could offset that by increasing the interest rate it pays on excess bank reserves or through conventional monetary means.
Could you really rectify centuries of racial injustice this easily?
Sadly, no. Even if the racial gap in median wealth were eliminated, it would still be the case that there's a substantial racial gap in median income. Lurking behind that gap is a gap in educational attainment. Unless those were rectified, the racial wealth gap would reemerge over time.
Beyond that, equalizing financial wealth would hardly level the overall playing field. Formally discriminatory public policies are a thing of the past, and public discourse is increasingly intolerant of blatant displays of racism but many studies show African-Americans are disadvantaged by widespread (and often unconscious) biases in a range of contexts.
Monetary reparations are generally viewed as an extreme idea, but the reality is that financial leveling is one of the aspects of racial inequality that it would easiest to fix if the country wanted to.
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Veteran
Crpytonite
Pro
Contradict yourself in 1 sentence. We can't even get a forum to have any type of unity n you think someone gonna organize a boycott of 40 million strong? Na you looking at the wrong leverage point.
$15-20 Trillion
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
so that's $6 trillion dollars.
so with your plan that's $600 billion dollars a year for 10 years?
do you raise taxes? how do you generate revenue or where do you cut revenue to be able to pay for it? With the bank bailout, the banks had to pay back what was given to them.
I did not contradict myself at all. Where did I saying EVERY African-American was required? Please point that out. Secondly, please show in history where every African-American was required to affect change? Not being able to craft a rebuttal to my argument doesn't give you the right to just make up your own argument, ascribe it to me, and then make a point against it. That's intellectual dishonesty...
knickscity
Superstar
That's something that would never happen, but it would be a start.
Take it from DoD aka the war chest...don't go to war for a decade....legalize prostitution...tax sex workers...tax anything vice related...tobacco the easiest to raise it off of...