Evidence Unlearning Vol 2 album OTW (1st 2 singles inside)

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[KingsOfKings]

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[dubsmith_nz]

@dubsmith_nz @Corndog For one last crazy perspective on the hard drums vs light drums thing, I was talking about music with a 23 year old dude at my gym (he's a big music head), and he really surprised me by saying if he hears hard drums in sample based hiphop music, he immediately thinks of it as "old head boom bap" or "unc" music. And he said lighter drums or no drums makes him think it's "more modern" and "younger sounding" and that it sounds fresher to him as a young head. That fukked my head up.

As an older head, when I think loud drums I think of more youthful energy and what not, and I think of quieter drums as more smokey lounge rap music for older heads. But this younger fan had the exact opposite take, and he said he'd way rather listen to light drums in sample based rap music.

Yo that's a wild take, I feel like drums are still prevalent in mainstream music, probably not to the level they used to be though.

I guess I've gotta go listen to EDM if I want some drums now

 

[TheDarceKnight]

new single. release date and tracklist drops tomorrow. It’s 15 tracks though.

 

[Karank0]

new single. release date and tracklist drops tomorrow

First song was dope, this one is kinda ehhhh man

Whats up with all songs being 2 minutes, having no hooks and like one verse this days? I've heard that it's because the algorithm favors shorter songs, but it's pretty disappointing that everyone is following the same formula. I miss when songs had 3 verses and a hook, they felt more like proper paintings...these short songs feel like rough sketches in comparison. Also, really used to love that Ev still incorporated scratches in his all music when it started becoming a lost art with the rest of hip-hop....seems he is done with it too

 

[TheDarceKnight]

First song was dope, this one is kinda ehhhh man

Whats up with all songs being 2 minutes, having no hooks and like one verse this days? I've heard that it's because the algorithm favors shorter songs, but it's pretty disappointing that everyone is following the same formula. I miss when songs had 3 verses and a hook, they felt more like proper paintings...these short songs feel like rough sketches in comparison. Also, really used to love that Ev still incorporated scratches in his all music when it started becoming a lost art with the rest of hip-hop....seems he is done with it too

There was one scratch hook on Ev’s last album but that’s it. On the joint with Conway. Yeah, this definitely the way music is going these days. Shorter songs and less formatting.

That was kind of the whole backstory he said to the title Unlearning. Trying new things. Not sticking to tradition or formulas. Thats also why he left the title track off the album, and apparently he wanted the whole album to be one giant track instead of split into 14 tracks, but the label shot that down. I miss a lot of that too but I like the first Unlearning album.

The new album is more tracks than the last one and they all won’t be just 2 mins. The last one had a few 2 minute tracks but also plenty of ones 3+ mins

 

[Karank0]

There was one scratch hook on Ev’s last album but that’s it. On the joint with Conway. Yeah, this definitely the way music is going these days. Shorter songs and less formatting.

That was kind of the whole backstory he said to the title Unlearning. Trying new things. Not sticking to tradition or formulas. Thats also why he left the title track off the album, and apparently he wanted the whole album to be one giant track instead of split into 14 tracks, but the label shot that down. I miss a lot of that too but I like the first Unlearning album.

The new album is more tracks than the last one and they all won’t be just 2 mins. The last one had a few 2 minute tracks but also plenty of ones 3+ mins

No doubt, I loved Unlearning too even though it had shorter songs and only one song with scratching - just feels like this one one is going overdrive with the short songs, no hooks formula (like most of hip-hop in the last few years). It's still EV, and I'm sure the end result will still be super dope but I too miss the more traditional elements of hip-hop music and had to add my complaints to the discussion


Completely agreed with the the lack of hard drums in today's hip-hop, and I feel the same with scratching

 

[Figaro]

He has a good ear for beats when he picks from other producers but i really hope he produces the majority of this project, his production game is getting stronger.

 

[areohbee824]

Both singles are dope

 

[Khadafi1982]

I get you. The entire sub genre has changed, for better or worse. I feel like this is just more of what the sample based indie rap scene sounds like now. I expect UV2 to be a lot like UV1–a mix of lighter drums, and more traditional drums, but still noticeably less harder/louder sounding overall than cats dogs/weatherman/weather or not…

It’s almost entirely a quieter and more minimalist style these days across the board with all the major underground rappers. People are socializing less. Going to less concerts. Listening to more music in headphones. And these rappers are in their 40's or even 50's now and just aren't making as much bang out loud music as they used to.

Sometimes I miss the older sound too, but there really is a lot of that music for us to go back and listen to.

I like how you put a few reasons why drumless rap is striving. I never saw it from that social angle. The sound has evolved for certain, I mix the new and old. I can have a whole month where I listen to new wave rappers, lately been listening Willie The Kid, Jay Nice, YL and Starker. But there is also a lot of small European labels re-releasing regional east coast rap releases from mid 90s ex; Fat Cat Clique(Philly), The Kartel(Philly), Connecticut Kartel(Connecticut), Example(Texas), Tha Chamba(Chicago), RAM Squad(Philly) and many more that I am discovering.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

He has a good ear for beats when he picks from other producers but i really hope he produces the majority of this project, his production game is getting stronger.

Yeah me too. I’ve heard him say that one day he wants to produce a whole thing for himself. But I don’t think he’s ever produced more than a few on any of his own projects.