Ex-CIA Pilot John Lear Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers

[CakeEater]

Wait wait wait.

You've heard of momentum, right?

miss me with that bullshyt bruh. You talking to a nikka that lives on a higher frequency.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

miss with that bullshyt bruh. You talking to a nikka that lives on a higher frequency.

Higher frequencies nullify Newtonian physics now?

 

[CakeEater]

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[joeychizzle]

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you still think planes didn't hit the towers?

 

[YoungMasterGold]

Clearly people underestimate the brilliance of Skunk Works engineers working in cahoots with IAF planners to orchestrate the most brilliant trickery ever pulled.

It's not hard to construct a giant warhead built around an "airplane's" shell. They were just drones, the fuselage was really a giant cruise missile. They test flew these over at Dreamland for like 5 months beforehand.

A smaller one hit the pentagon tho. Nobody was on those planes, they were just giant cruise missiles.

Why go to all that trouble? Surely, it's easier to just abduct a plane and crash it into the buildings than to build plane like warheads, swear everyone involved in the making of the warheads to secrecy, then swear all the actors that pretended to die in those planes into secrecy. Further, you'd also have to provide new identities for those pretend dead actors and hope that none of them would like to contact their grieving family.

William of Ockham must rolling in his make believe grave.

 

[USSInsiders]

Why go to all that trouble? Surely, it's easier to just abduct a plane and crash it into the buildings than to build plane like warheads, swear everyone involved in the making of the warheads to secrecy, then swear all the actors that pretended to die in those planes into secrecy. Further, you'd also have to provide new identities for those pretend dead actors and hope that none of them would like to contact their grieving family.

William of Ockham must rolling in his make believe grave.

I dunno, maybe so you could make billions of dollars and take over two sovereign nations as justify passing legislation that makes it easier to monitor American citizens and invent federal agencies under the guise of national security.

I never understood the whole " no way they could've done it because it's impossible prevent leaks, someone would've leaked it by now, etc. etc."

Intelligence agencies perform hundreds of sensitive operations all of the time. Assuming they were behind it, no one would ever know about it.

Who says you need hundreds of actors anyway? They could've recorded some fake ass voicemails and parade a couple people to do shyt like the infamous Mark Bingham scenario.



"Hi mom, this is Mark bingham"

 

[YoungMasterGold]

I dunno, maybe so you could make billions of dollars and take over two sovereign nations as justify passing legislation that makes it easier to monitor American citizens and invent federal agencies under the guise of national security.

Yeah, and it'd be easier to get all that done by allowing a small number of pawns to crash a couple of planes. Hell, you'd only need four guys in the know to get the job done. The objective can be attained, then, in a more straightforward manner than what you suggested.

I never understood the whole " no way they could've done it because it's impossible prevent leaks, someone would've leaked it by now, etc. etc."

Risk of exposure rises exponentially with the number of actors involved. That's just the way it is.

Intelligence agencies perform hundreds of sensitive operations all of the time. Assuming they were behind it, no one would ever know about it.

They do, which is why I suspect it's a lot easier to recruit a fanatical ideologue to do the dirty work than to involve a number of engineers , etc to build plane shaped warheads to crash into prominent buildings.

Who says you need hundreds of actors anyway? They could've recorded some fake ass voicemails and parade a couple people to do shyt like the infamous Mark Bingham scenario.



"Hi mom, this is Mark bingham"

Um, the passengers' list and the many families with supposedly deceased relatives (from different parts of the world) says you need hundreds of actors.

 

[USSInsiders]

Yeah, and it'd be easier to get all that done by allowing a small number of pawns to crash a couple of planes. Hell, you'd only need four guys in the know to get the job done. The objective can be attained, then, in a more straightforward manner than what you suggested.



Risk of exposure rises exponentially with the number of actors involved. That's just the way it is.



They do, which is why I suspect it's a lot easier to recruit a fanatical ideologue to do the dirty work than to involve a number of engineers , etc to build plane shaped warheads to crash into prominent buildings.



Um, the passengers' list and the many families with supposedly deceased relatives (from different parts of the world) says you need hundreds of actors.

The passenger lists aren't even that big at all assuming they're even real. We've only heard from a handful of people who are supposedly relatives, most prominently the infamous Mark Bingham voicemail and his mom. You don't need physical, in-the-flesh actors to fake voicemails and written statements. Anybody could record those and pass them off as genuine.

I don't even think a plane hit the pentagon, and I don't think a plane crashed in pennsylvania. If they were really planes that hit the towers I don't think they were enough to bring them down that's why I think if they were to use cruise missiles they'd do it.

If the planes hit them, then I'd assume there were explosives planted in the towers to bring them down because I don't think the planes by themselves were enough to make them go down the way they did.

I don't know where you're coming up with the it only takes four people to do the job, either.

 

[YoungMasterGold]

The passenger lists aren't even that big at all assuming they're even real. We've only heard from a handful of people who are supposedly relatives, most prominently the infamous Mark Bingham voicemail and his mom. You don't need physical, in-the-flesh actors to fake voicemails and written statements. Anybody could record those and pass them off as genuine.

The passengers' lists and the relatives supposedly attached to them are big enough to need hundreds of actors. If you've any evidence to show the passengers' lists are fake, then you should post it. As far as I know, they are genuine. And, if they're genuine, you'd definitely need "physical, in-the-flesh actors."

I don't even think a plane hit the pentagon, and I don't think a plane crashed in pennsylvania.

So what happened to the actual planes that allegedly crashed at those sites? We have the problem of more passengers' lists with which to contend.

If they were really planes that hit the towers I don't think they were enough to bring them down that's why I think if they were to use cruise missiles they'd do it.

Planes can behave in much the same way as cruise missiles. The mechanics aren't all that different.

If the planes hit them, then I'd assume there were explosives planted in the towers to bring them down because I don't think the planes by themselves were enough to make them go down the way they did.

Well, now, that's a different argument. I don't believe explosives were planted in the towers. In my opinion the crash against the sides of the buildings were enough.

I don't know where you're coming up with the it only takes four people to do the job, either.

Two guys in the know in each of the planes that crashed into the WTC, the others in their crews can be unsuspecting fools.

 

[USSInsiders]

The passengers' lists and the relatives supposedly attached to them are big enough to need hundreds of actors. If you've any evidence to show the passengers' lists are fake, then you should post it. As far as I know, they are genuine. And, if they're genuine, you'd definitely need "physical, in-the-flesh actors."


So what happened to the actual planes that allegedly crashed at those sites? We have the problem of more passengers' lists with which to contend.



Planes can behave in much the same way as cruise missiles. The mechanics aren't all that different.



Well, now, that's a different argument. I don't believe explosives were planted in the towers. In my opinion the crash against the sides of the buildings were enough.


Two guys in the know in each of the planes that crashed into the WTC, the others in their crews can be unsuspecting fools.

I don't think you could commandeer an entire plane with one man so I'm going to throw that one out of the window, but if you believe it, then that's on you.

I don't know what happened to the planes, if I did, I wouldn't be speculating. I never said I had proof, I just think considering tons of classified information being held and numerous inconsistencies, I question the legitimacy of anything the feds are passing off as fact, that's why I don't believe the manifests are accurate even if they say they supposedly are according to the govt.

It's not the mechanics, it's the fact cruise missiles are packed with explosives, but come to think of it, cruise missiles are propelled differently than turbojet engines, they use scramjets I believe so they'd be travelling much faster than the 767s, at least I think. Maybe the planes were UAVs

I remember on a forum a long time ago people did some digging into the social security records of some of the supposed passengers and a lot of inconsistencies, I don't remember specifically but i'm sure if you looked hard enough you could probably find it.

There's no debris at the flight 93 crash site. Don't think a plane hit it, govt won't release videos of whatever hit the pentagon and there's no debris there either. That's enough for me to call bullshyt on whatever else they tell me to be true.

 

[YoungMasterGold]

I don't think you could commandeer an entire plane with one man so I'm going to throw that one out of the window, but if you believe it, then that's on you.

No, you misunderstand. Two of the guys hijacking the plane know how it's going to end. The others involved in the hijacking don't need to know it'll end with a bang. Incidentally, one of the two in the know will have to be capable of flying the plane.

I don't know what happened to the planes, if I did, I wouldn't be speculating. I never said I had proof, I just think considering tons of classified information being held and numerous inconsistencies, I question the legitimacy of anything the feds are passing off as fact, that's why I don't believe the manifests are accurate even if they say they supposedly are according to the govt.

You should question your government. However, their mismanagement and fukk ups shouldn't be used to bolster their supposed control over the masses. I see nothing to suggest the lists of passengers were fake.

It's not the mechanics, it's the fact cruise missiles are packed with explosives, but come to think of it, cruise missiles are propelled differently than turbojet engines, they use scramjets I believe so they'd be travelling much faster than the 767s, at least I think. Maybe the planes were UAVs

I'd say travelling at the speeds at which the planes were flying coupled with the amount of jet fuel they would still have had should be enough. No need for missiles or anything fancy. That's my opinion, though.

I remember on a forum a long time ago people did some digging into the social security records of some of the supposed passengers and a lot of inconsistencies, I don't remember specifically but i'm sure if you looked hard enough you could probably find it.

I've seen some people trying to make a conspiracy out of the passengers on the respective flights, even going as far as to make things up; but I haven't seen anything that shows the passengers listed weren't on the flights.

There's no debris at the flight 93 crash site. Don't think a plane hit it, govt won't release videos of whatever hit the pentagon and there's no debris there either. That's enough for me to call bullshyt on whatever else they tell me to be true.

There was a video of the pentagon crash. There was also debris from flight 93. Bodies, too.

In any case, we can at least agree that a large number of people died that day, right?

 

[USSInsiders]

No, you misunderstand. Two of the guys hijacking the plane know how it's going to end. The others involved in the hijacking don't need to know it'll end with a bang. Incidentally, one of the two in the know will have to be capable of flying the plane.



You should question your government. However, their mismanagement and fukk ups shouldn't be used to bolster their supposed control over the masses. I see nothing to suggest the lists of passengers were fake.



I'd say travelling at the speeds at which the planes were flying coupled with the amount of jet fuel they would still have had should be enough. No need for missiles or anything fancy. That's my opinion, though.



I've seen some people trying to make a conspiracy out of the passengers on the respective flights, even going as far as to make things up; but I haven't seen anything that shows the passengers listed weren't on the flights.



There was a video of the pentagon crash. There was also debris from flight 93. Bodies, too.

In any case, we can at least agree that a large number of people died that day, right?

There was never a FULL video of pentagon crash. They released a few frames but you can't make out what hit, it honestly looks like a learjet or a missile not a 767. Numerous videos were confiscated of the pentagon and never released. There is no debris consistent with a boeing jet in pennsylvania, it looks like a missile hit the ground.

I agree that a lot of people died in the towers and many more from cancer and other complications.

 

[CakeEater]