Examples of Boxers Genuinely Improving Punching Power?

[Lurking Class Hero]

Are there any examples of this in entire history of boxing?

I don't mean minor improvements that naturally come with age. I mean significant improvements in punching power.

I remember a period when Tim Bradley was consciously trying to punch with more power, but he really just ending up loading up a bit more, he never really became a puncher. The Devin Haney attempt to generate more power hasn't worked either. Do you know of any examples of this working? I don't mean a feather fist becoming a Bob Foster but just becoming a good puncher.

 

[patscorpio]

Are there any examples of this in entire history of boxing?

I don't mean minor improvements that naturally come with age. I mean significant improvements in punching power.

I remember a period when Tim Bradley was consciously trying to punch with more power, but he really just ending up loading up a bit more, he never really became a puncher. The Devin Haney attempt to generate more power hasn't worked either. Do you know of any examples of this working? I don't mean a feather fist becoming a Bob Foster but just becoming a good puncher.

timmy's punch mechanics were never really there except with an overhand right..however he was going to outwork you and throw as many punches as he could along with leading with his head lol...haney's power lessened because of the shoulder surgery and draining himself too much to stay at 135...before the surgery devin was capable of getting nikkas out of there..he had like a 60 something percent KO rate..his last recorded stoppage he broke somebody's orbital in only 4 rounds..it could be similar to a jeff lacy situation but we will see as his career progresses

 

[UpAndComing]

I would say Tyson Fury. That drastic improvement from Fury-Wilder 1 and Fury-Wilder 2 when he started to train with Sugar Steward at the Kronk gym. Started to sit on his punches way more

 

[desjardins]

Sergio Martinez. Was well into his career in his 30s when he started getting respect as a dude who had 1 punch power. Other interesting thing is his KO rate went way up as the quality of opponents went up a level, it's normally the opposite

 

[Megadeus]

I would say Tyson Fury. That drastic improvement from Fury-Wilder 1 and Fury-Wilder 2 when he started to train with Sugar Steward at the Kronk gym. Started to sit on his punches way more

Citing a drug cheat for a conversation like this is hilarious

 

[Knicksman20]

Sergio Martinez. Was well into his career in his 30s when he started getting respect as a dude who had 1 punch power. Other interesting thing is his KO rate went way up as the quality of opponents went up a level, it's normally the opposite

Sergio was probably on those Ariza shakes & Flintstones vitamins regiment lol

 

[NZA]

canelo scales his power according to how hittable the guy is

 

[NormanConnors]

Are there any examples of this in entire history of boxing?

I don't mean minor improvements that naturally come with age. I mean significant improvements in punching power.

I remember a period when Tim Bradley was consciously trying to punch with more power, but he really just ending up loading up a bit more, he never really became a puncher. The Devin Haney attempt to generate more power hasn't worked either. Do you know of any examples of this working? I don't mean a feather fist becoming a Bob Foster but just becoming a good puncher.

Tim's power improved under Teddy Atlas IMO, he was just a better/sharper boxer overall.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

I would say Tyson Fury. That drastic improvement from Fury-Wilder 1 and Fury-Wilder 2 when he started to train with Sugar Steward at the Kronk gym. Started to sit on his punches way more

That was mostly weight, he added +15kg at least, not as much to do with punch mechanics.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

The Devin Haney attempt to generate more power hasn't worked either.

You could make a case for his power increasing during the latter stages of his foray at 135 (eg Kambosos fights and the Lomachenko fight.) Definitely Kambosos 2 and Lomachenko. This had as much to do with his ability to cut weight and compete in a weight class he had grown bigger than.

• Manny Pacquiao became heavier handed during the middle stage of his career, specifically 135 to 140 to 147. De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito etc. Ariza played a huge part (hint hint). But he has always had power, but that reign was particularly brutal.

 

[UpAndComing]

That was mostly weight, he added +15kg at least, not as much to do with punch mechanics.

Nah it was the Boxing Style/Mechanics. Steward/Kronk Gym style is about being more offensive and on the front foot to deliver more knockouts. Tommy Hearns was a pure Boxer until he met with Emmanuel Steward to become a knockout artist. Lennox Lewis became a more decisive offensive fighter after getting with Steward

Gaining weight isn't the end all be all. Joe Joyce gained weight for the Zhang rematch, and did remarkably worse lol

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Nah it was the Boxing Style/Mechanics. Steward/Kronk Gym style is about being more offensive and on the front foot to deliver more knockouts. Tommy Hearns was a pure Boxer until he met with Emmanuel Steward to become a knockout artist. Lennox Lewis became a more decisive offensive fighter after getting with Steward

Gaining weight isn't the end all be all. Joe Joyce gained weight for the Zhang rematch, and did remarkably worse lol

Look talking about Kronk is cool, everyone loves Kronk, but it's got nothing to do with it lol. Fury done already trained with the actual Emmanuel Steward, so according to your theory he'd already be that mechanically sound, power puncher anyway.

Fury weighed in the heaviest of his career in Wilder II, after interestingly, being the lightest he'd ever been versus Otto Wallin. Go research that, or maybe who actually fought under Emmanuel Steward.

If you think that power isn't mostly about weight then that says a lot more than you realise.

 

[UpAndComing]

Look talking about Kronk is cool, everyone loves Kronk, but it's got nothing to do with it lol. Fury done already trained with the actual Emmanuel Steward, so according to your theory he'd already be that mechanically sound, power puncher anyway.

Fury weighed in the heaviest of his career in Wilder II, after interestingly, being the lightest he'd ever been versus Otto Wallin. Go research that, or maybe who actually fought under Emmanuel Steward.

If you think that power isn't mostly about weight then that says a lot more than you realise.

#1
Fury weighed in at 271 for Wider vs Fury 2

Fury weighed in at 281 for Usyk vs Fury 2

Come on man


#2

Yeah Fury trained with Emmanuel Steward in 2008, but it was only for a small session. The same session that he mentioned Fury could be a great fighter and that him and Wilder could fight one day. Not as extensive a training as what he did with Sugar Steward

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

#1
Fury weighed in at 271 for Wider vs Fury 2

Fury weighed in at 281 for Usyk vs Fury 2

Come on man


#2

Yeah Fury trained with Emmanuel Steward in 2008, but it was only for a small session. The same session that he mentioned Fury could be a great fighter and that him and Wilder could fight one day. Not as extensive a training as what he did with Sugar Steward

I’m at work, so not enough time to pull up weight numbers re Fury, but if you look anything up re Fury / Wilder, you’ll see he weighed in the heaviest of his career up until that fight, stop re writing history, on a forum at that. WTF does Usyk have to do with it?

You really trying to say Fury didn’t live in USA and train with Steward? lol!

Go back to patting yourself on the back for predicting that Crawford negated Alvarez’s imaginary jab the other week.

 

[UpAndComing]

I’m at work, so not enough time to pull up weight numbers re Fury, but if you look anything up re Fury / Wilder, you’ll see he weighed in the heaviest of his career up until that fight, stop re writing history, on a forum at that. WTF does Usyk have to do with it?

You really trying to say Fury didn’t live in USA and train with Steward? lol!

Go back to patting yourself on the back for predicting that Crawford negated Alvarez’s imaginary jab the other week.

I know you feel embarrassed accepting an L

Hate it had to be you. You know what... I actually don't