They'll attack them no matter what they do. Might as well keep making nukes.
They'll turn into another Libya if they ever drop the nuclear program. America played the exact same game on ghadafi and look how his story ended...
Exclusive: Saudi warned Iran to reach nuclear deal with Trump or risk Israeli strikes
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They'll turn into another Libya if they ever drop the nuclear program. America played the exact same game on ghadafi and look how his story ended...
Iran isn’t your friend homie. Their leaders are some crazy unhinged MFers with a cult leader
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Israel ain't friends either. Neither are Saudis
Israel is better than anyone if that area
I don't know how much that has to do with China. I’d give them some credit, but I don’t think they single-handedly mended ties between SA and Iran.
Oman mediated a lot of talks between the two sides before China did. And the Saudi resistance to the JCPOA back then was that it would enable them to bankroll their proxies being that they would not be sanctioned or made a pariah. Today, there is no Assad, Hezbollah is severely weakened, and the Houthis are as well. Their (SA) fears are now centered around MBS grandiose visions being threatened by another regional conflict and so they’d prefer peaceful resolution this time around. It’s not because they’re friends, they just don’t want to be enemies.
If I’m a betting man, I’m not buying the Israeli’s threats. Israel won’t go at it alone as we heard previously, and Trump of all people showed reluctance to support them. The last thing the US needs is one more conflict to be involved in. The war in Ukraine and in Gaza exposed the US’ lack of necessary supply for a lot of weapons. Inching towards a nuclear weapon is the only good card Iran has left they’re not going to give it up easily.
However, I know I’d have to give the orange buffoon something even if I don’t buy Israel’s threats. Iran is probably going to go for a deal that appeases Trump but pisses off Israel. And Trump being Trump for all his bluster, will go easy on Iran. Iran knows the Apricot Ayatollah just wants a deal for the optics, more than he wants to make Israel happy. This is the same dude that was glazing the Houthis after signing that ceasefire with them and leaving Israel out of it. How many Republicans complained about that deal? Probably not a lot, and you definitely don’t hear about it all for it to be consequential.
No argument from me about Oman. They’re working hard on many fronts with Iran.
And regionally, Iran’s allies are weakened. But they still exist.
I'd argue that China's role was more pivotal than just being another mediator in a long line of attempts. The March 2023 Beijing Agreement provided the geopolitical cover and economic incentives that previous mediation efforts lacked, with China offering both countries substantial investment packages and BRI integration as sweeteners for normalization.
China's mediation came at a moment when both Saudi Arabia and Iran were reassessing their regional strategies, but it was Beijing's ability to offer tangible economic benefits and serve as a counterweight to U.S. influence that helped cement the deal. While Oman's earlier efforts laid important groundwork, they couldn't provide the same level of strategic assurance or economic partnership that China brought to the table. The Biden administration wasn’t doing this.
Your point about Trump's likely approach to Iran negotiations is spot-on though - he'll probably prioritize getting a deal he can tout as a win over satisfying Israeli demands for maximum pressure, especially given his transactional worldview and desire to avoid new military commitments. Israel needs US support for strikes but Netanyahu is arrogant enough to think he can drag Trump in. Especially with the Israel lobby’s influence in Congress. It’s overwhelming. Mike Johnson and John Thune might get veto proof majorities to override any POTUS to join a war on Israel’s behalf.
That’s fair, only China has the economic pull with both countries and is the only “neutral” world superpower that could make it happen. The US couldn’t make it happen if they tried from 2023 onwards anyways, because they’re assisting in blowing up their proxies, probably wouldn’t be a good mediator.
I know the Israel lobby is powerful, but I think they get a lot of leeway because a lot of these pro-Israel Islamophobes and racists get what they want with no skin in the game. They get to see what they perceive to be a war on Islam and protecting of Western values with little to no US involvement. Even when they had the numbers, they talk tough but ultimately don’t to be dragged into a war with Iran. We don’t need to get bogged down by Iranian proxies, even if it’s not directly with Iran. They want to go on their nice vacations, have fancy dinners and effortlessly lie about how they’re not stealing from the poor to give to the rich. They don’t want to complicate that by having to defend a new war. That’s not even counting the worry of shortage of munitions that’ll make it harder than they think. Tariffs and the trade wars complicate that even further Id bet. Who knows though, Nancy Pelosi once said “the US could crumble and the only thing standing left would be our commitment to Israel.”
You are out of your muthafukking mind.
Ain't no WAY you said that shyt out loud.
Better for who? Israel is racist as fukk and has global ambitions. They constantly fukking shyt up in Africa, getting minorities entire careers cancelled in the EU and the US for questioning them, run multiple country's politics through black mail. CONSTANTLY bomb countries THEY ARE NOT AT WAR WITH, and openly assassinate people on displomatic missions.
Israel is the biggest menace in the world right now. Even Russia doesn't just randomly assassinate and bomb countries they got no beef with.
What's Iran doing on the WORLD STAGE?
Absolutely nothing. They trying to mind their business but the crazy Israelis are so unhinged, they are forced to fight.
House of Saud is so demonic
Depreciating Asset
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Bump seems appropriate at this moment 
It's crazy. He's a real piece of shyt. What he said is the equivalent of saying nazi Germany is the best country in the region
