Explosion at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester (22 dead so far)

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Gaddafi had to be eliminated.

Personally didn't care for him but that one made even less sense than Iraq.

Libya today is a humanitarian basket case. Look at the people who were driving that policy.

European "powers" - they know that they will be nothing in a few generations, so willing to kill however many necessary for a last grasp at maintaining colonial power in region
United Nations/Ban Ki-Moon -
Obama - at times good intentions but fundamentally a person who cares too much about being liked
Hillary - person who is so desperate to be taken seriously as a potential CINC that she willingly waltzes into clusterfukks
Samantha Power/Donilon/Susan Rice/Jake Sullivan - ivory tower eggheads with zero credibility on the ground and zero real life experience with military/national security matters

The irony is that the Europeans who were such a driving force behind this will be the ones to continue to reap the consequences.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Why people assume muslims? Maybe the IRA is back on that bullshyt.

Hitting a Grande concert is so random. Trump got buildings all over, if it was muslims

 

[kwazzy100]

They kill more Muslims than anybody

People, religions, politicians, etc tend to kill their own people. What kind of excuse is this? Islamic Terrorism wouldn't be a problem if America wasn't so oil hungry

 

[MikeyC]

This is terrible. Wonder how Brexit features in all this.

It doesn't.

 

[无名的]

The message has been loud and clear for a long time... these people don't care about innocent civilians, including children. They're not al-Qaeda - they don't need high-profile targets like airplanes; they're fine causing terror in the day-to-day life through soft targets. And worst of all, they're looking to scale with more complex deadly mechanisms, while they use easy methods in the short-term.

This is going to get more frequent and worse before it gets better.

 

[CurrencyChase]

The message has been loud and clear for a long time... these people don't care about innocent civilians, including children. They're not al-Qaeda - they don't need high-profile targets like airplanes; they're fine causing terror in the day-to-day life through soft targets. And worst of all, they're looking to scale with more complex deadly mechanisms, while they use easy methods in the short-term.

This is going to get more frequent and worse before it gets better.

Who are they though? Isis?

 

[The Blind Man]

I don't know a lot about Manchester, I do know it's much more poverty stricken then London, and almost all places outside London have been badly damaged by unemployment, and there is fevered resentment of the "elites", which led to Brexit Those kind of conditions, high unemployment, esp among the youth is breeding grounds for radicalization, given the U.K's proximity to the rest of the Europe and Middle East, it's a given there are going to be radicalized people in Manchester. I don't know if there is a high Muslim population there, given London's, I'd say likely. I'm going to profile the suspected suicide bomber, based on recent similar incidents, 25-35, unemployed, or marginally employed, recently radicalized, learned the bomb making skills through his handler and ISIS manuals.....Not white, but not Iraqi, or Saudi Arabian, or Iranian.

We are well used to this in the UK. A Christian terror group had the country under pressure for years.

1990, 20 July: A bomb at the London Stock Exchange

1991, 18 February: A bomb exploded at Victoria Station. One man killed and 38 people injured.

1991, 15 November: A bomb detonated in St Albans City Centre.

1992, 28 February: A bomb exploded at London Bridge station injuring 29 people.

1992, 10 April: Baltic Exchange bombing: A large bomb exploded in St Mary Axe in the City of London.

1992, 25 August: Three fire bombs in Shrewsbury, Shropshire.

1992, 3 December: Two bombs in central Manchester, injuring 65 people.

1993, 20 March: Warrington bomb attacks.

1993, 24 April: A huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate,

1993, 13 August: 4 out of 6 bombs in Bournemouth
1994, 13 August: 2.5 lbs of Semtex packed exploded damaging 15 shops.

1996, 9 February: Bomb exploded the South Quay area of London
1996, 15 June: The Manchester bombing when the IRA detonated a 1500 kg bomb,

This is less than 5 minute walk from the Arena that was attacked.

 

[GPBear]

Think of it this way:

We would not have had the Iraq War with Gore in office. maybe Afghanistan. Definitely not Iraq

What are you fukking talking about. We WERE ALREADY AT WAR WITH AFGHANISTAN WHEN GORE WAS IN OFFICE
We bombed a fukking pill manufacturer because we thought they were part of Al Qaeda.
And it's not like Hilary Clinton didn't vote for Iraq...

They set the precedent for cruise missile strikes in retaliation for terrorist attacks on American embassies.

 

[GPBear]

We are well used to this in the UK. A Christian terror group had the country under pressure for years.

1990, 20 July: A bomb at the London Stock Exchange

1991, 18 February: A bomb exploded at Victoria Station. One man killed and 38 people injured.

1991, 15 November: A bomb detonated in St Albans City Centre.

1992, 28 February: A bomb exploded at London Bridge station injuring 29 people.

1992, 10 April: Baltic Exchange bombing: A large bomb exploded in St Mary Axe in the City of London.

1992, 25 August: Three fire bombs in Shrewsbury, Shropshire.

1992, 3 December: Two bombs in central Manchester, injuring 65 people.

1993, 20 March: Warrington bomb attacks.

1993, 24 April: A huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate,

1993, 13 August: 4 out of 6 bombs in Bournemouth
1994, 13 August: 2.5 lbs of Semtex packed into a bicycle left outside Woolworths in Bognor Regis, exploded damaging 15 shops. A similar bomb found in nearby Brighton.

1996, 9 February: Bomb exploded the South Quay area of London
1996, 15 June: The Manchester bombing when the IRA detonated a 1500 kg bomb,

This is less than 5 minute walk from the Arena that was attacked.

People are fukking stupid.

I read that back in the late 1800s early 1900s America had over 500 bombings from anarchists.
Fear of muslim terrorists is simply 100% to continue manifest destiny, imperial colonialism, and white supremacist global conquests of terror which turns everyone into its slave.

 

[The Blind Man]

People are fukking stupid.

I read that back in the late 1800s early 1900s America had over 500 bombings from anarchists.
Fear of muslim terrorists is simply 100% to continue manifest destiny, imperial colonialism, and white supremacist global conquests of terror which turns everyone into its slave.

You dont even have to go back that far.

White christians firebombed churches in the 20th Century.

Countless mass shootings by white people = gun control issuses. Mass shootings non-white people = terror attack.

Oklahoma.

And thats just the latter part of last century,

 

[re'up]

I want to be clear, I am not demonizing Muslims, nor amI afraid of them, (as far as terrorists) I am just analyzing this current attack, within the context.....All these bombings have motives and causes and explanations, which is what I am interested in. I really don't think this attack was a Christain motivated attack. That's not a preference, for one or another, just an analysis. I am well aware, in the US "we" fear monger Muslims, and ignore the white gunmen, religious and race motivated.

 

[The Blind Man]

I want to be clear, I am not demonizing Muslims, nor amI afraid of them, (as far as terrorists) I am just analyzing this current attack, within the context.....All these bombings have motives and causes and explanations, which is what I am interested in. I really don't think this attack was a Christain motivated attack. That's not a preference, for one or another, just an analysis. I am well aware, in the US "we" fear monger Muslims, and ignore the white gunmen, religious and race motivated.

All of the bomb attacks I listed had motives. Tim McV had motive. The college educated hijackers on 9/11 had motives. The columbine kids had motives.

15 churches in African-American communities have been targeted in the last 25 years by white christian militia/terror groups. The outrage and uproar if this was the other way around. It would be a cacophony of rage and hatred. If it was non-white non christians who comitted these acts, your country would go to war.

So he ideology of the people who committ these atrocities is irrelevant if they all lead to terror? These religions all start to look like death cults.

 

[ineedsleep212]

 

[QuintessentialMan]

Muslims keep making it REAL hard on the Western world to keep defending their shyt

FYI for people not in the know, this is like if Chicago got bombed.

First off fukk you fake nikka and the daps you claim

 

[DEAD7]

Is Ariana ok?

Yes...

so all is not lost.