Faith Evans vs. Mary J Blige

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What's really funny is you thinking that's enough to beat Mary :russ:

If u from the 90s era, you'd know those Babyface produced records had the airwaves on lock

Toni got Babyface, Neptunes, Darkchild, Diane Warren records

Mary would use the hip hop angle with killer features but her ballads not fkn wit Toni
 
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most people respect the hell outta toni, but she's the 50 cent/DMX of r&b...really huge run out the gate but a sharp decline by album 3. she also has a lot of ballad work that just doesn't resonate today, it makes it harder for her to find a good matchup - someone like MJB is going to win with the Verzuz crowd based on being more soulful + hip hop and having a deeper catalog, someone like Mariah has versatility plus a deeper catalog, and even someone like Janet has more classic love/sensual songs + great dance tracks and a deeper catalog...she's just outmatched with those who make sense for her to go up against


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a Toni Braxton versus Chante Moore would make sense

both had strong debut and sophomore albums and then a slight decline by the time their third albums came about and both of their music has been on cruise control since
 

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All these points about Toni I just addressed a couple posts up, she was huge but doesn’t have longevity as a relevant act and simply fails to matchup well against the people who make sense for her to “compete” with. He ain’t have to say it disrespectfully, but Toni doesn’t win :yeshrug:
Yea I ain’t mean to be disrespectful. But it just doesn’t make sense.
 

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Facts

a Toni Braxton versus Chante Moore would make sense

both had strong debut and sophomore albums and then a slight decline by the time their third albums came about and both have been on cruise control since

Change Moore don't have 20

Faith gotta strong 15, and that includes top tier album cuts

Toni got 16-18
 
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Change Moore don't have 20

Faith gotta strong 15, and that includes top tier album cuts

Toni got 16-18

Chante like Toni has the first 2 albums and then a handful of collaborations/duets and a couple of singles from their third albums and that’s really it

they’re both in the same league
 

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If u from the 90s era, you'd know those Babyface produced records had the airwaves on lock

Toni got Babyface, Neptunes, Darkchild, Diane Warren records

Mary would use the hip hop angle with killer features but her ballads not fkn wit Toni

I think pretty much everyone acknowledges Toni at one point was huge and had an incredible run, but overall, she doesn't have enough to beat Mary.

Toni's Neptunes and Darkchild joints don't hold a candle to Mary's Hip Hop joints. "The Message">>>> Toni's joint with Dre. "Steal Away">>>> Toni's Neptunes joint. Mary has several joints produced by Dark Child>>>> Toni's. Are we going to act like Mary's Babyface produced "Not Gon Cry" wasn't huge.
 

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Chante like Toni has the first 2 albums and then a handful of collaborations/duets and a couple of singles from their third albums and that’s really it

they’re both in the same league
Nah, people wasnt listening to chante like that. In fact, I can count the people I knew with a chante Moore album, whereas everyone 10-50 had toni’s albums. They’re not one the same plane, even if they both had strong first two albums.
 
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This isn’t a contest about who sings better

it’s about the songs

Mary has the songs

Mariah has the songs


These ladies have catalogs of hit songs that go way past just a decade
 

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I think pretty much everyone acknowledges Toni at one point was huge and had an incredible run, but overall, she doesn't have enough to beat Mary.

Toni's Neptunes and Darkchild joints don't hold a candle to Mary's Hip Hop joints. "The Message">>>> Toni's joint with Dre. "Steal Away">>>> Toni's Neptunes joint. Mary has several joints produced by Dark Child>>>> Toni's. Are we going to act like Mary's Babyface produced "Not Gon Cry" wasn't huge.
Yea, I was gonna reply to him, unbreak My Heart is getting answered with Not Gon Cry, and Not Gon Cry hits harder and is one of those tracks that the verzuz audience in particular is gonna have more affinity for. It’s in the canon of black songs for relationship drama
 
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Nah, people wasnt listening to chante like that. In fact, I can count the people I knew with a chante Moore album, whereas everyone 10-50 had toni’s albums. They’re not one the same plane, even if they both had strong first two albums.


True but what
I’m saying is it makes more sense that her and Toni would pair up for a versus
 
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