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HBCU coach goes viral for calling mid-majors JUCOs​


March 27, 2025


Robert Jones, Norfolk State, JUCO



Norfolk State head coach Robert Jones has once again made waives online — this time for comparing the state of his HBCU basketball program and other mid-majors to JUCOs.
Shortly after Norfolk State guard Brian Moore Jr. announced he was hitting the transfer portal on Tuesday, WAVY New’s James Kattato posted an interview where Jones compared the state of mid-major college basketball to community college.
“This is now a glorified JUCO. This is like Norfolk State Community College,” Jones said in the interview. “And when I say that, not because of the people or anything like that — but it’s just the way it is. JUCO coaches, I have so much more respect for them these days, because they have to get a new team every year/every two years. Now we gotta get a a new team every year/every too so we’re basically a glorifed JUCO.”

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Jamarii Thomas was named MEAC Player of The Year in 2023-2024 before hitting the transfer portal. (Steven J. Gaither/HBCU Gameday)


Moore came to Norfolk State from Murray State where he was a part-time starter during the 2023-2024 season averaging 9.2 points and 1.6 rebounds per game. He was named first-team All-MEAC after averaging 19 points during the regular season before helping NSU win the MEAC Tournament a week later. He’s not alone — only one player eligible to return from the three MEAC All-Conference programs hasn’t hit the portal in the first few days.
“Until mid-majors — and not just Norfolk State — get the money that high majors have, we’re never going to be able to keep kids for a long time. It’s easy to get ‘em but it’s hard to retain ‘em. You can get them because there’s a lot of kids that want the opportunities. But once they get the opportunity and they blow up, it’s hard to retain ‘em. Because now the big boys are going to come.”

Another example is former Norfolk State guard Jamarii Thomas. Thomas got inconsistent playing time at his first school — UNC-Wilmington. He transferred to the HBCU for the 2023-2024 season, had a breakout year and was named the MEAC Player of The Year. He hit the transfer portal following the season, first committing to VCU and ultimately landing in the SEC at South Carolina.
Jones didn’t sound bitter in his comments, but he did express the feeling that many college basketball coaches in the HBCU and mid-major world are dealing with at the moment


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Different Article about transfer portal effect on all of college basketball

 

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NSU coach Robert Jones


HBCU coach goes viral for calling mid-majors JUCOs​


March 27, 2025


Robert Jones, Norfolk State, JUCO



Norfolk State head coach Robert Jones has once again made waives online — this time for comparing the state of his HBCU basketball program and other mid-majors to JUCOs.
Shortly after Norfolk State guard Brian Moore Jr. announced he was hitting the transfer portal on Tuesday, WAVY New’s James Kattato posted an interview where Jones compared the state of mid-major college basketball to community college.
“This is now a glorified JUCO. This is like Norfolk State Community College,” Jones said in the interview. “And when I say that, not because of the people or anything like that — but it’s just the way it is. JUCO coaches, I have so much more respect for them these days, because they have to get a new team every year/every two years. Now we gotta get a a new team every year/every too so we’re basically a glorifed JUCO.”

Norfolk State
Jamarii Thomas was named MEAC Player of The Year in 2023-2024 before hitting the transfer portal. (Steven J. Gaither/HBCU Gameday)


Moore came to Norfolk State from Murray State where he was a part-time starter during the 2023-2024 season averaging 9.2 points and 1.6 rebounds per game. He was named first-team All-MEAC after averaging 19 points during the regular season before helping NSU win the MEAC Tournament a week later. He’s not alone — only one player eligible to return from the three MEAC All-Conference programs hasn’t hit the portal in the first few days.
“Until mid-majors — and not just Norfolk State — get the money that high majors have, we’re never going to be able to keep kids for a long time. It’s easy to get ‘em but it’s hard to retain ‘em. You can get them because there’s a lot of kids that want the opportunities. But once they get the opportunity and they blow up, it’s hard to retain ‘em. Because now the big boys are going to come.”

Another example is former Norfolk State guard Jamarii Thomas. Thomas got inconsistent playing time at his first school — UNC-Wilmington. He transferred to the HBCU for the 2023-2024 season, had a breakout year and was named the MEAC Player of The Year. He hit the transfer portal following the season, first committing to VCU and ultimately landing in the SEC at South Carolina.
Jones didn’t sound bitter in his comments, but he did express the feeling that many college basketball coaches in the HBCU and mid-major world are dealing with at the moment


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Different Article about transfer portal effect on all of college basketball


bascially what i said two years ago in this thread. fcs schools are now the development league for the fbs level.

we had a bad wr this past year that i was really looking forward to watching his continued development, but he left for a bigger school. i forgot how many others we lost.

and howard had an outstanding freshman point guard that they raved about all year. he announced a couple of days ago that he'd be transferring out to a bigger school.

i'm all for the athletes being able to move around and get paid, but i hope they do something to regulate some of this.

i think now it doesn't even count against your eligibility if you start out at a juco. so the players who might've come to hbcu's or other fcs schools for a year or so and then transferred might as well go to the juco because when you leave you'll still have your 4/5 years of eligibility left.
 

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*excerpts of the article

04/22/25
BOULDER, Colo. – It’s not just the future of college football that concerns Deion Sanders.

The present state of a wild landscape – with liberalized player movement fueled by name, image and likeness (NIL) cash – is daunting enough.

“There’s a lot going on in college football, and the NCAA has just washed their hands and they walk away,” Sanders said during a wide-ranging interview with USA TODAY Sports. “As long as they collect those checks, they walk away instead of saying, 'OK, we’ve got to do something about this.' Because if you don’t, it’s going to keep spiraling.”

“There should be some kind of cap,” Sanders said, referring to NIL payments. “Our game should emulate the NFL game in every aspect. Rules. Regulations. Whatever the NFL rules, the college rules should be the same. There should be a cap and every team gets this, and you should be able to spend that.”

Such a salary cap, Sanders envisions, would adjust with different conferences and levels of competition, based on revenues
Another idea: Compensate HBCU schools for losing players.

“If we take a kid from an HBCU, we should have to compensate that school, man,” said Sanders, with the perspective of coaching at an HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities), as he revitalized the program at Jackson State before moving to Colorado. “You’ve taken a kid and not given them nothing for it. That’s not fair, because they can’t compete with you in terms of the solicitation of the kid.

“It’s almost like how the Negro Leagues were dissolved. They started taking (Black players in the Major Leagues), and no one compensated the Negro Leagues. If you take them but compensate the schools, now we’ve still got breath. Now I can use that to get something else.”
And Sanders – who during the heyday of his Hall of Fame NFL career made a music video called “Must Be the Money” – surely supports the shift to paying college players.

“You like it, but you don’t love it,” he said. “You like it because you want these guys to be compensated. You want these guys to have a tremendous head start on life. You want these guys to understand finances, financial literacy. You want them to understand that this is game-changing money, just in case you don’t fulfill that dream of being a professional football player. You have something of a head start in life.

“But there’s so much that goes with that because you’ve got to prepare. Some of them squander it. Instantly. And it’s not healthy for some because now it’s not just the kid, but parents are involved as well. Don’t get me wrong; there are a lot of great parents out there. But it’s a different game out there right now, with some of the parents being agents, doing representation.”

A different game, Sanders will tell you, that begs for some different rules of engagement
 

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some kind of a spending cap for the schools would be good, so the UT's and OU's and OSU's and other schools with big money can't just buy their wins every year by outspending other schools. and different caps for different levels would be good as well. but when i sit and think on it, they really fukked the smaller schools with the change that playing at a juco doesn't count against an athlete's eligibility. juco ball is getting ready to have a major increase in talent.
 
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