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What about being a nikka IN Latin America? That's a struggle even the poorest mestizio in Nicaragua, Costa Rico or Mexico wouldn't want to experience.

:mjpls:

And BTW, don't mock the Black American struggle. You sound like those inquisitive Cacs that are like "Well why is Keisha on welfare, when her boy Demond is wearing Jordans?"
It's bad, I already acknowledge that earlier. Being black 75% of the world you in your home country probably means you are looked at or treated as a second class citizen, Unless you are An African American abroad then you are treated as an American.

I wasn't mocking the black struggle, it was more geared towards the American struggle, I was using it as an example to show the extreme poverty their people are living in because another posted said why aren't blacks moving
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dem mexicans have their own country -we dont-
and i really ain't trying to hear there sob story when there are plenty of poorer / less fortunate people on this planet in asia & africa etc...etc...



again they have their own land -so they have ZERO excuses-
they need to STOP crossing this boarder and fixed their own damn problems in their own damn country !!!!
Im not sure what you are trying to argue with me about, you seem like you are just up in your feeling :umad:

Since you seem to be coming back black people help illegals anytime I make a post, ill put my position out there, so you can shut the fukk up.:birdman:



I don't think the black community should raise up and fight for Latinos, or anybody else for that matter. I wouldn't either, if I were to use my time or money to further anything it would be for AA.

No I don't think we should let more people in, more people in means more competition. That competition would be in the lower class which would be against a large portion of AAs. With lack of community with AA immigrants would always win out, and we AA would get pushed down further.

With that said, as a human being, since you know its really only one race, the human race. I can't fault anybody leaving the their country to go to the US, and i'd help an illegal out if I saw they were in need.


Yes they should fix their own problems, but money makes the world go round, and cartels have the money and the power. Regular people and politics can;t really do shyt out there.

I just got back from Mexico like 30 min ago, was out there with a journalist friend, and she was telling me about a story she cant right because she would get killed, they kill cops, mayors and regular people.

Aint shyt going to happen in their lifetime, its not as easy as just fix home, if it was black people would be in a better position, its the culture and system around them.

Also, whats the thing black people always talk about doing when they can?

Leave the hood:sas1:
For illegals, their whole country is the hood, and nothing good comes from it.

what does this have to do with black people?
The question I was responding to was about black people not crossing into their lands. I gave a reason why they wouldn't what don't you get about that and how it relates back to black people? :wtf:
 

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I never said the ENTIRE population, but the majority of the population looks down upon us.

And the post you were replying to was a reply to this


This nikka wants us to put ourselves in their shoes when they could give a fukk about us.

Maybe try reading the thread before you quote me not knowing what the fukk your talking about


I grew up in south central los angeles, I've been shot by some fukking Mexicans doing a drive by at some random black dudes, I've been jumped by Mexicans for being black in their hood even tho Ive never been gang affiliated, Tha fukk do you know about my life?

:what:

:wtf: So when you said the whole population, you didn't mean the entire population?:mindblown:


Are you aware that whole literally means entire?:dwillhuh:
Look either word up and you will find the other.:mjlol:


Im out of this thread, this nikkas is playing dumb :francis:

I hope :mjcry:
 

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:wtf: So when you said the whole population, you didn't mean the entire population?:mindblown:


Are you aware that whole literally means entire?:dwillhuh:
Look either word up and you will find the other.:mjlol:


Im out of this thread, this nikkas is playing dumb :francis:

I hope :mjcry:
You seem to have trouble comprehending simple thought processes.

Let me ask you something, should blacks align themselves with white because not all white people hold Ill will towards black, Though majority do?

Should all be forgivin for slavery and 400 years of pain because not ALL whites agreed with enslaving africans? Even if the vast majority did?

Should we buddy up with Hispanics because a few see unity even though race relations between blacks and latinos in damn near ALL Latino countries are mostly hostile?

Should we March in the streets for Latino rights even though most wouldn't March for us?

Hispanics goal isn't to end white supremacy, it's to assimilate into white supremacy.

They don't wanna stop white supremacy, they want to be a part of it.
 

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You need to go study a little more history :francis:

:comeon: http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/guadalu3.htm

https://thetruthisfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/the-us-southwest-was-stolen-from-mexicans/

Mexico gained independence from Spain in 1821 after ending years of war against colonial imposition and crimes by the Spanish invaders. The war left Mexico drained out which contributed to neglect its Northern territories known today as the United States “Southwest.” The original name of that land is Aztlan and Chicano descendants from the original inhabitants still use that name today.

While Mexico was at war with Spain, thousands of white colonists, cattleman, adventures, and mercenaries, were coming from other parts of North America that had been already invaded and occupied looking for land and gold they could find and obtain “by any means.” These mercenaries fixed their eyes and interest in what is today “Texas,” placed themselves in land plots, and later enlarged their population so that by 1835 there were more white foreigners than native Mexicans in the area. In 1836 the white foreigners occupied most of the territory by force, declared “independence” and called the stolen lands “Republic of Texas.” This bandit’s act caused the war between Mexico and the United States for the first time until the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed between the two countries on February 2, 1848. Mexico lost the land the whites called “Texas” but subsequently the rest of the Northern territories which eventually became part of the whole mass land known today as the US “Southwest.”

The land stolen from Mexico is bigger than Germany and France combined and considered to be among the riches in the world where an abundance of gold was found after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed. The native Mexicans were forced to become US citizens or leave the area one year after the Treaty was signed. As a result of the invader’s laws, thousands of native Mexicans left but the great majority stayed and became citizens. Throughout the development of the so-called “Republic of Texas” the war against Mexicans was made of grave crimes. The well-known philosopher and historian Jose Vasconcelos wrote that one reason whites perpetrated horrible crimes against Mexicans, was because they believed in the concept known as “manifest destiny” which in practice meant to “kill all the Mexicans and take Mexico.” History has registered thousands of grotesque crimes against Mexicans in that part of the Native American Continent, but more outstanding for having similarities with the grave crimes by whites in Central and South America, are those related to the taken of men by force of arms out of their homes to be murdered, then the white killers would back to the homes and rape women and little girls, murder them, set the homes on fire, and kill all the animals.

:comeon: http://rootsrevealed.blogspot.com/2013/06/african-americans-and-mexicans-are_9.html

:comeon: http://moorishamericannationalrepub...exicans-and-black-slaves-moors-held-as-slaves

:comeon: http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/migrations/legacy/almleg.html

In 1829, AfroMexican President Vicente Guerrero signed a decree banning slavery in the Mexican Republic. There are, of course, many angles from which to view the escalating immigration debate. Mexican immigrants, who constitute the largest share of the undocumented, have a unique history with the African population inside the United States. As the Black community weighs in on this very contentious issue, it becomes necessary for us - both black and brown - to review the history that we share.

However, before reviewing our history together, I need to say unequivocally that the U.S. seizure of more than half of Mexico's territory in 1848 netted Washington more than 80 percent of Mexico's fertile land and was a criminal act. And that if Mexico today still included California and Texas, she would possess more oil than Saudi Arabia and have sufficient economic infrastructure to employ all of her people.
When Mexican people say that "the border crossed us, we did not cross the border," they speak the truth, and more Black people - most of whom are not strangers to oppression, exploitation, domination and exclusion - need to appreciate that.

It has been said that for most of the 19th century, Mexican immigrants were more highly regarded by African Americans than any other immigrant group. What may account for this, at least in part, is the enormous if not pivotal role undertaken by Black fighters in the war to secure Mexican independence from Spain and abolish slavery. Unfortunately, many of us repeat the falsehoods of our adversaries and have forgotten our special relationship with Mexican and Indigenous peoples.

It is time that our memories be restored and that the nay Sayers and nativist Negroes among us either put up or shut up. What follows is the little known history of Mexico serving as a refuge for fugitive slaves and a provider of job opportunities for Blacks emigrating from the U.S. to Mexico.

The Native Youth Movement, including the rap group War Club, was with the POCC, including LA POCC member Jazz, Chairman Fred Hampton Jr. and POCC artist Jocelyn backstage at the "We the People" festival in Watts on April 8. The event was a huge success in bringing young Black and Brown people together. Photo: JR Mexico as a haven for fugitive slaves From the very beginning of his Texas colonization scheme, a determined and deceitful Stephen Austin sought to have Mexican officials acquiesce to the settlement of slave-owning whites into the territory. It was generally acknowledged that the people and government of Mexico abhorred slavery and were determined to prohibit its practice within the Mexican republic.
Beginning in 1822, at least 20,000 Anglos, many with their slave property, settled into Texas. Jared Groce, one of the first of Stephen Austin's Texas settlers that year, arrived with 90 enslaved Africans.
The Mexican Federal Law of July 13, 1824, clearly favored and promoted the emancipation of slaves. Mexico had even stipulated that it was prepared to compensate North American owners of fugitive slaves.

thats just mexican propaganda, yeah its true that white colonists from england stole land from white colonists from spain...................................why should black people care?

the only way you can say the southwest belonged to Mexico is if you go along with white people from spain claiming it for the king of spain, mexico itself is an invader, it has no existence outside of the european colonization just like the united states

another thing that is important to understand is that the native americans of the southewest are still there, they never went anywhere, the people that got kicked of the land where mexicans aka spanish colonist who had stolen the land from native americans

no native american in the united states has any connection with mexico

when the mexicans were doing with slavery was good, but it was actually the same thing the spanish were doing in Florida, so the Spanish and mexicans turning anti slavery was a way to keep the england and americans away, it was used as a buffer

is not much different then when england offered freedom to slaves during the revolutionary war, it wasnt out of kindness, it was a strategy

Black Seminoles—Gullahs Who Escaped From Slavery
http://www.yale.edu/glc/gullah/07.htm

the spanish were the first europeans to bring slaves into the new world but by the 1800's they were a dying empire and being overwhelmed economically by england and its former colonies



A Region in Denial: Racial Discrimination and Racism in Latin America

https://www.utexas.edu/law/centers/humanrights/events/adjudicating/papers/Deniallastversion.pdf

Beyond the soccer fields, racism is the enemy of millions of Latin Americans
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2014/05/02/racismo-enemigo-millones-brasil-america-latina



MEXICO'S HIDDEN BLACKS
http://moreintelligentlife.com/content/places/alexis-okeowo/black-mexicans

Twitter Explodes With Racist Comments Aimed At Mayweather After His Victory Over Pacquiao

Mexico’s Race Problem
And the real story behind Fox’s faux pas
http://bostonreview.net/claudio-lomnitz-mexico-race-problem

The World; Racism? Mexico's in Denial.
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/11/weekinreview/the-world-racism-mexico-s-in-denial.html
 
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Racism Rears Its Ugly Head in Mexico
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Racism-Rears-Its-Ugly-Head-in-Mexico-3171753.php

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Mexico's President Vicente Fox is having a tough year.

During the much-publicized Minuteman Project in Arizona last March, Fox's arrogant comments and dismissive attitude didn't win him too many fans north of the border. Then in May, while making yet another speech about how America couldn't function without illegal immigrants from Mexico, Fox managed to insult African Americans in the process. He claimed that illegals do the work that "not even black people want to do," implying that African Americans make up the lowest rungs of society.

About a month later came the unveiling of Mexico's latest series of postage stamps, featuring none other than a black character like something out of a minstrel show. Needless to say, Fox found himself on the defensive yet again -- with good reason.

It turns out that racism in Mexico, both against blacks and dark-skinned indigenous Indians, has a long history. Mexico's colonial past has left its mark on modern-day society. Prejudice toward "pureblood" Indians from those who are "mixed-blood" (Spanish and Indian) is rife. Almost uniformly, people who are darker-skinned and of Indian descent make up the peasantry and working classes, while lighter-skinned, Spanish-descent Mexicans are in the ruling elite. Fox himself comes from that background, as his appearance makes evident.

This inequality may explain in part why the majority of immigrants coming into the United States fall into the darker-skinned category. Beyond the failure of the Mexican government to sustain a decent economy, darker-skinned Mexicans have a difficult time getting work because of job discrimination. According to the Web site IndigenousPeople.net, "sixty percent of Indians over 12 years of age are already unemployed, and of those who work, most earn less than the minimum wage of about $2.50 a day." The same story notes that Mexico City's top restaurants don't allow patrons to bring along Indian domestic workers for fear of tarnishing their business image.

'Color Continuum'

Mexico's racial dynamics are perhaps best summed up by Steve Sailer in his article, "Where Did Mexico's Blacks Go?" He writes that "[w]hat Mexico does have instead of a color line is a 'color continuum.' There are no sharp racial divides, yet the rule for social prestige remains 'the whiter the better.'"

With this in mind, the popularity of the "Memin Pinguin" postage stamp series in Mexico starts to make sense. In fact, the flat-nosed, thick-lipped, bug-eyed, shucking and jiving Memin Pinguin is one of Mexico's most beloved comic strip characters. He's a children's character from a 1945 comic book that's still published in Mexico today. The cartoonist, Sixto Valencia Burgos, describes Memin as "this funny little kid. And nice. And generous. Oh, and black, too."

Fox's spokesman Rubén Aguilar vehemently denied that the character was racist, even going so far as to make the absurd claim that the series served to "combat racism and promote family values." Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez chimed in with his own defense of the Mexican comic strip and had the gall to accuse critics of showing a "a total lack of respect for our culture."

But Americans were unmoved. The White House issued a statement saying that the stamps had "no place in today's world," and the ubiquitous Jesse Jackson demanded that the stamps be withdrawn from the market. He also vowed to lead a demonstration at Mexican consulates unless Fox apologized. Leaders of the NAACP, the National Council of La Raza and the National Urban League also spoke out against the stereotypical stamps.

Similar to U.S. Caricatures

Far from it being a "cultural misunderstanding," as members of the Mexican government term it, Americans know all too well what Memin Pinguin represents, as such caricatures originated in their own backyard. According to David Pilgrim, curator of the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia at Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Mich., the character is "consistent with what we in the United States would refer to as a pickaninny image."

But such stereotypes have long been banished to the realm of collectibles in this country, and rightfully so. Long before the overreach of political correctness, people worked to rid the nation of some truly ugly elements. This was a product of political struggle on the part of African Americans and others who fought for an integrated society. So naturally most Americans recoiled in disgust when the offending stamp was revealed.

But in Mexico the stamps have been selling out, with lines out the door of local post offices. In fact, the Mexican postal service defended the series vigorously, calling Memin Pinguin a "nice, little motor-mouth who, thanks to his good humor and particular way of seeing the world, wins the hearts" of the other characters. Isn't that special?

Mexicans themselves seem perplexed by all the hoopla. In a society where such terms of endearment as guero (blond) for Caucasians or fair-skinned Mexicans and negro (black), negrito (blackie) or moreno (brown) for darker-skinned Mexicans are standard, the Memin Pinguin stamps are simply par for the course.

So is it reasonable to suggest that the struggles that have been waged by African Americans have not filtered down south of the border? Both countries have a legacy of slavery, but different pathways led to the divergent populations that exist today.

Slave Trade in Mexico

Although the study of slavery tends to focus exclusively on the United States, it was widely practiced in the ancient world and later by various people around the world, including of course Europe. It was the Spanish slave trade that first brought Africans to Mexico, as early as 1520. Although slaves were initially treated more like personal servants and Christianized before their arrival, the Spanish crown soon expanded the practice into a full-blown slave trade. The population of blacks grew to outnumber the Spanish and eventually reached 200,000. With Mexico's independence in 1829, slavery was finally abolished after almost 300 years.

But slavery had taken its toll on the remnants of African culture, and intermarriage with indigenous people, and to a lesser extent with the Spanish, created a population of mixed-bloods, or mulattos. The descendants of these people continued to intermarry, which may be why the contemporary Afro-Mexican population is relatively small.

The two areas where the most blacks in Mexico live are the Costa Chica and the state of Veracruz. Like the indigenous people in the area, Afro-Mexicans are mostly campesinos or peasant farmers. Because the Mexican government does not use "race" in its census data, it's difficult to gauge population, but Afro-Mexicans appear to be short of both political and economic power. Compared to the legion of African American faces among the rich and famous, Afro-Mexicans are relatively invisible in popular culture, except of course for derogatory figures such as Memin Pinguin.

Despite the backdrop of slavery, many Mexicans are in denial about this aspect of their history. Colin A. Palmer, in an article titled "A Legacy of Slavery," recounts one such conversation in which a Mexican student insisted that Africans came to Mexico only as fugitive slaves from North America or Cuba. Yet at one time, Palmer notes, Mexico "probably had more African slaves than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere." And unlike the United States, where people have openly confronted their past, Mexico has yet to come to terms with its history. Maybe this is why gross misrepresentations of blacks such as Memin Pinguin are considered harmless. If racism never existed in Mexico, then how could this caricature be racist?

Factional Attitudes

Then there's the factional attitude of various Latin Americans toward each other -- often partly based on the color continuum. These prejudices have traveled along with their purveyors to the United States and are well known by those who rub shoulders with Latino workers. My stepfather and his brother work in construction, and over the years they have noticed the hostility between Mexicans and the mostly darker-skinned Hondurans. They often refuse to work together and must be segregated by job. Although hardly politically correct, this bigotry is overlooked because it's perpetrated by one brown person against another. The truth is, racism transcends any one group, and when one looks beyond the white-vs.-black paradigm, discrimination is between degrees of brown.

Americans schooled in the ways of racial sensitivity can be shocked to travel abroad and witness the real world. My mother and I were in Hong Kong during the late 1980s and ran across something astounding: a toothpaste called "Darkie" (since changed to "Darlie.") On the front of the tube was a drawing of an Uncle Tom-like character from the Old South. We were so flabbergasted at the offensive find that we had to buy a tube to bring back and show our friends. But it was left in our hotel room, destined to be only a crazy story.

Unfortunately, Memin Pinguin is no crazy story and the proof is staring us all in the face. It's just too bad that it doesn't seem to bother our Mexican neighbors.
 

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You seem to have trouble comprehending simple thought processes.

Let me ask you something, should blacks align themselves with white because not all white people hold Ill will towards black, Though majority do?

Should all be forgivin for slavery and 400 years of pain because not ALL whites agreed with enslaving africans? Even if the vast majority did?

Should we buddy up with Hispanics because a few see unity even though race relations between blacks and latinos in damn near ALL Latino countries are mostly hostile?

Should we March in the streets for Latino rights even though most wouldn't March for us?

Hispanics goal isn't to end white supremacy, it's to assimilate into white supremacy.

They don't wanna stop white supremacy, they want to be a part of it.
I have a problem comprehending :ohhh: But I just said and I quote:comeon: "I don't think the black community should raise up and fight for Latinos, or anybody else for that matter." :dwillhuh:
What dont you get about that sentence, that you felt the need to ask me those dumbass questions?:why:

Ya'll dudes are trolling, im really out of here. :aicmon:
 

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Dems only care about hispanics any more. Blacks made the mistake of openly saying they would never vote for GOP. Dems don't have to work for it.
 

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:childplease: you show one drunk idiot trying to be tough @theworldismine13 shows systematic racism from the whole country. But I'm the wanna be Cac??? #habitualvictim take sides when both don't give a damn about you brehs:snoop:


Vote what's best for your family idiot not to prove your down with another nationalities struggle.
 

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Im not sure what you are trying to argue with me about, you seem like you are just up in your feeling :umad:

Since you seem to be coming back black people help illegals anytime I make a post, ill put my position out there, so you can shut the fukk up.:birdman:




I don't think the black community should raise up and fight for Latinos, or anybody else for that matter. I wouldn't either, if I were to use my time or money to further anything it would be for AA.

No I don't think we should let more people in, more people in means more competition. That competition would be in the lower class which would be against a large portion of AAs. With lack of community with AA immigrants would always win out, and we AA would get pushed down further.

With that said, as a human being, since you know its really only one race, the human race. I can't fault anybody leaving the their country to go to the US, and i'd help an illegal out if I saw they were in need.


Yes they should fix their own problems, but money makes the world go round, and cartels have the money and the power. Regular people and politics can;t really do shyt out there.

I just got back from Mexico like 30 min ago, was out there with a journalist friend, and she was telling me about a story she cant right because she would get killed, they kill cops, mayors and regular people.

Aint shyt going to happen in their lifetime, its not as easy as just fix home, if it was black people would be in a better position, its the culture and system around them.

Also, whats the thing black people always talk about doing when they can?

Leave the hood:sas1:
For illegals, their whole country is the hood, and nothing good comes from it.


:camby:
da hell u talking bout


i responded to another poster then u responded to my post thereafter i ONLY replied ONCE
so how u gonna tell me to shut the fukk up like im hitting u in da head with this back n forth


listen if u wanna :cape: for them then good for u


all i can say is ... from my experience- i personally feel they despise black people for whatever the fukk reason
and being born & rasied in new york city the mecca of diversity i can say with absolute confidence my evaluation on them has to be accurate or at least some what !
 

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Someone needs to show this to the "Elder Shaw".

About that relationship with black people…

In a 1991 book, one of Trump's former colleagues recalled him saying, "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." (Trump called the things written about him in the book "probably true.")



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-donald-trump-has-said-20150616#ixzz3ft3jgHYs
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Man its amazing how naive these older Black folks can be.
 

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Someone needs to show this to the "Elder Shaw".

About that relationship with black people…

In a 1991 book, one of Trump's former colleagues recalled him saying, "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." (Trump called the things written about him in the book "probably true.")



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-donald-trump-has-said-20150616#ixzz3ft3jgHYs
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Man its amazing how naive these older Black folks can be.



Trump has changed his stance on blacks!!!! :ufdup:

























































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Trump has changed his stance on blacks!!!! :ufdup:

























































:troll:
Trump has changed his stance on blacks!!!! :ufdup:

























































:troll:

I kid you not i'm not making this up....this info was always on his Wikipedia page at least a day ago and I don't see it up there anymore. Its not like someone made up the information. That rumor about those comments were said for years. So he must have seriously done his work to take it off his Wiki page before this news came out about him meeting with Jamiel Shaw's family.

:beli:
 
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