Fast food workers strike, demanding $15 an hour

[DaChampIsHere]

No, I think what you are missing is that in high school or 5th grade or whatever other condescending grade level y'all keep trying to attach to it, you must be part time employee regardless. Unless McDonald's plans to only open after 330 or 4pm depending on the city, they will need adult, full time workers. And once you are an adult you have to do things like file taxes and pay rent and support yourself, and therefore have all the right to demand from your employer a wage that allows you to meet those needs.

That is the way business works. You don't see yourself getting squeezed by your employer and then try to make yourself smaller to help them.

It's not condescending. If you can count money, you can work at a McDonalds cash register. Did you not learn how to count money in elementary school?

It's not about what time someone can work. You're getting caught up on the pettiness of it. It's about the fact that McDonald employees literally share the same exact skill set with every United States citizen over the age of 18 pretty much. There's so much supply it's crazy. An 18-22 can work at McDonalds during the day while in college/community college to earn some extra cash. The fukk is your point with the 3:30-4 PM shyt?

The fact of the matter is, Americans are lazy and y'all are supporting. Why haven't any of y'all encouraged the idea of these people learning a viable trade? Why do you want them to beg and strike for money when you are posting as if you believe they have some sort of valuable talent? If you believe in them so much and they they work so hard, why aren't you encouraging them to a path to entrepreneurship through trades and such? Plumbers make bank, but yet there is a shortage and you are opting to have someone beg for money instead.

There's always going to be a portion of the population unqualified or unemployed, not everyone is going to be able to step out into other professions no matter how hard they try.

So people who aren't qualified for good jobs should make the same as people who are qualified for good jobs? SO what the fukk is the point of ever learning anything besides what it takes to work at McDonalds if anytime you want you can just beg for a higher salary?

Welcome to the 90s generation. Where losers deserve trophies too

 

[PartyHeart]

It's not condescending. If you can count money, you can work at a McDonalds cash register. Did you not learn how to count money in elementary school?

It's not about what time someone can work. You're getting caught up on the pettiness of it. It's about the fact that McDonald employees literally share the same exact skill set with every United States citizen over the age of 18 pretty much. There's so much supply it's crazy. An 18-22 can work at McDonalds during the day while in college/community college to earn some extra cash. The fukk is your point with the 3:30-4 PM shyt?

The fact of the matter is, Americans are lazy and y'all are supporting. Why haven't any of y'all encouraged the idea of these people learning a viable trade? Why do you want them to beg and strike for money when you are posting as if you believe they have some sort of valuable talent? If you believe in them so much and they they work so hard, why aren't you encouraging them to a path to entrepreneurship through trades and such? Plumbers make bank, but yet there is a shortage and you are opting to have someone beg for money instead.

You continue to miss the point. It doesn't matter what skill level the job requires, stop focusing on that. The fact of the matter is that the job requires bodies and requires them in pretty sizeable number. The corporation has a need for them, regardless of whatever arbitrary skill level you feel is worthy of making this or that amount. Until fast food restaurants don't even require these pathetic, uneducated, unskilled losers that you can look down on, those same pathetic, uneducated, unskilled losers have every right to demand as much as they can get from their employer. If they are able to get as many people in that line of work in on their protest to the point where they are disrupting business, you will see how their wages rise, even while you still feel they are worthless.

And yes their hours of operation has a lot to do with it, because only if their business could be run on the schedule of high schoolers could your supposition stand to reason. If it was a job that could operate just by staffing high school students, and high school students tried to demand more, the corporations could THEN easily say fukk that, we have adult workers who can work even longer hours than yourself we'll just go with them. At that point, high school students with no other options, limited by their schedule, would then take whatever they could get and have to shut up or else get ran out of the market entirely. However this is not the case for fast food restaurants because they require of age workers to conduct normal hours of operation. And what other viable options do they have if adult workers refuse to work on the money they are offering? Robots? Zombies? Unless you know something I don't they have none, and thus would have to adjust to the wages their workers demand to the point that it makes sense for their business.

And your entire last paragraph is irrelevant. If you are continuously making it abundantly clear that education isn't even necessary for this work, why is it you keep bringing it up? Doesn't stand to logic at all, unless you are silly enough to think that these jobs will go away once everyone is educated? You want to talk about education, thats great, I even said in the broader scheme of things the education system is the problem and that was the very first post I made in the other thread. However its a separate issue. This is simply about the economics of business and employer/employee relations.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

You continue to miss the point. It doesn't matter what skill level the job requires, stop focusing on that.

But sweet heart, that's what the payment of ALL jobs are based on in capitalism. When you understand that, we can discuss further, okay? :shake:

If you all want communism where everyone is paid the same no matter how hard you work/your skill set, you are free to go to a country with such anytime.

 

[PartyHeart]

But sweet heart, that's what the payment of ALL jobs are based on in capitalism.

That is not even close to being true

Understand this, because this is as simple as I can make it for you to understand why your comment is ridiculous:

If you have a company that requires 500 workers to each screw in a light bulb, I mean do completely unskilled labor. It doesn't matter how meaningless you consider what they are doing. If you need those 500 employees to do the job in order for your company to run adequately, if they and the worker pool they come from say: "we want a raise". You know what you'll have to do? Pay them. Because its either pay them or go out of business. And why would a corporation making hundreds of billions, that would only lose 1 billion of that at the most choose to not pay? Because the skill level for the wage they're asking isn't right according to arbitrary standards?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

OR McDonalds could buy their shares back and limit their profit outlook. Cause they have a responsibility to their shareowners above all else.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Lol...yes I "truly believe this"....and decades of labor compensation, and economic data agree. What, do you think business owners have just increase wages out of the benevolence of their heart, and not to compete with other industries and markets? Have you not charted the attacks on wages and labor in the last 30 years, and the complete lack of signifiant wage increases for labor during that time period? This includes you, btw.

Back in the day, if workers from one industry went on strike, workers from other industries, completely unrelated, would go on strike too....people understood what was good for workers in one company/industry, was good for all. Alas, corporate America put a stop to that, and our wealth distributions in this generation have reflected as much.

Could McDonalds workers get a raise? Sure.

$15 AN HOUR RAISE?

No. Hell no.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

$15 for working in the fast food industry?

Well considering some of these chains make billions of dollars a year, it isn't so far fetched. I worked in fast food it's very hard labor, only thing going against the protester the facted people are lining up to take their spot

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Breh a Wendys combo is $8 now...

Fast food is same price as regular restaurants now (Chilis, Olive Garden, Applebees) 2 for $20-2for $25 for meals.

The only thing is it taste shyttier and you have less wait time, and they dont get tips.

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I use Fast Food employees as examples for my kids... "You don't wanna grow up and work at such and such, right?"

You stupid when I was working in fast food half the people there were in college working in a degree. Most prolly end up better than some dumbass belittling them on a message board.

 

[FLORIDA BOI]

you hoe azz nikkaz on some high class ish, just because you have a degree gtf outta here, fact of the matter is you really dont need a degree for most of those jobs you could have been trained to do the same bs and saved yourself 3-4 years . i think the reason people gatta problem with this most of all is hatin on the next man .

 

[sfgiants]

the kids at in n out were makin 12$ an hour like 8 years ago

 

[blackzeus]

Nikkaz is gonna have to learn Spanish in order to order food

 

[FLORIDA BOI]

i like how people think because he got a degree or he can work anyjob considered unskilled you think you can work at mcdonalds, any resturant , a road crew, janitoral blah blah , i doubt it stop with the class ish , fact is no matter wat you do your still gonna be a nizza . breh just posted a video Oreilly told lamont hill he look like a drug dealer and he got a phd. stop trying to get acceptance from these C@Cs

 

[Malta]

So people who aren't qualified for good jobs should make the same as people who are qualified for good jobs? SO what the fukk is the point of ever learning anything besides what it takes to work at McDonalds if anytime you want you can just beg for a higher salary?

Welcome to the 90s generation. Where losers deserve trophies too

So, you're telling me you view $15 an hour as a "good job"? Keep in mind, even if they get that much which is unlikely they still wouldn't have benefits. Your entire solution to the problem is "Do something else" when there are people in situations that simply cannot get anything better than a fast food job. The average age of someone working at McDonalds has gone up to 29 years old, there are more and more people having to get those type of jobs. In my opinion someone working a 40 hour a week job should be able to get the bare minimum I don't care if they are mopping floors, changing lightbulbs or flipping burgers, nobody putting in those type of hours should be on welfare.

I have never worked in a fast food joint, however I have empathy for those that do. There are people with no other options believe it or not, and they shouldn't be taken advantage of so some shytbag with a 200 foot yacht sees a 1% rise in his stock.

 

[CrimsonTider]

So, you're telling me you view $15 an hour as a "good job"? Keep in mind, even if they get that much which is unlikely they still wouldn't have benefits. Your entire solution to the problem is "Do something else" when there are people in situations that simply cannot get anything better than a fast food job. The average age of someone working at McDonalds has gone up to 29 years old, there are more and more people having to get those type of jobs. In my opinion someone working a 40 hour a week job should be able to get the bare minimum I don't care if they are mopping floors, changing lightbulbs or flipping burgers, nobody putting in those type of hours should be on welfare.

I have never worked in a fast food joint, however I have empathy for those that do. There are people with no other options believe it or not, and they shouldn't be taken advantage of so some shytbag with a 200 foot yacht sees a 1% rise in his stock.

@DaChampIsHere is retarded.

I gave a list from the government that shows jobs that pay an average of $15/hr.

All of those jobs were menial and required no skill that the average MCD employee could obtain through on the job training.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Anybody know what ended up happening?