Fat Trel On Wale: "He's Not From My Side"

[2Quik4UHoes]

that's whats up. you went to Duke?

Nah I got fam that did tho plus a couple of my mans was cool with Father Payne before he passed. I know her cuz she used to come to the bookstore I work at a lot. She busy nowadays but I catch her around when I can. Good sista, very talented in her own right actually. I know lil one going to Duke now tho, her drawing game is fukkin crazy so she belong in there.

 

[Ardamus]

yo @Deoji whats up, man...we gonna work on some shyt finally or what? Lol.

 

[Deoji]

yo @Deoji whats up, man...we gonna work on some shyt finally or what? Lol.

let's do it! I was just listening to your latest earlier. Good shyt. Check my project out when you get a chance. It dropped on Friday.

 

[Ardamus]

let's do it! I was just listening to your latest earlier. Good shyt. Check my project out when you get a chance. It dropped on Friday.

post up a link. i'll check it out.
and thanks man.

 

[LunaticVillage415]

Just read thru this a lil bit...

Funny thing, Trel was born in VA and moved to DC like at the age of 7
while Wale was born in murda cap DC and moved to MD (gaithersburg) around the same age as Trel

nikkas conveniently thru Wale shade cuz he was the first rapper to make it, and him not being street.....some hate hater shyt imo

No other area has done that except for the DMV

Slick hating has held the music scene back so much, but outta towners do numbers here

The Bay is like that too. All of the rappers who blow up because of the Bay wasn't born and raised there or don't acknowledge the Bay after they blow up. Too $hort moved to Oakland when he was 14. He even said "born in L.A. got the game from the Bay" on that popular California song remix they played on the radio. Of course we know Pac moved to the Bay when he was almost an adult. Then he screamed live and die in L.A. before he died. The Game forgot about Frisco and Fillmoe nikkas as soon as he started fukking with G Unit.

Out of town rappers got their game from folks in the Bay who was born in raised in Bay Area hoods they whole life. Master P and the Game copped game from JT the Bigga Figga from Fillmoe. Pac's real homies were Richie Rich, Rappin 4Tay, E-40 and Ant Banks. Local rappers in the Bay often get caught up in the local turf bullshyt or can't stay out of the streets because they aren't mainstream industry nikkas who sit in boardroom meetings with cacs. The result is that the Bay lost many local legends to the street shyt (i.e. Mr. Cee from RBL Posse, Hitman, Seagram, the Jacka).

The problem I see with DC is that supporting local rap is a new phenomena. Wale really was the first DMV rapper to really catch a real buzz nationally. Back in the day, you had random Go-Go rappers and Section 8 Mob in the 90's who sounded like a bootleg West Coast Rap group with East Coast tendencies. But Wale really started the trend of nikkas from DC actually wanting to rap as a career. And the thanks he gets is "you ain't from here, moe" . fukk type of shyt is that. If it wasn't for Wale, there wouldn't be a lane for Shy Glizzy or Trel.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Yeah, DC is a mix of hip hop fans who fukk with shyt like Scarface heavy...then they're fans of Nas at the same time. Then they you got a lot of fans into J Dilla here too. But we all know the effects of go go in this city.



Yo, whats good, Joe? Yeah man, that was ages ago. Fun times then.

Every DC cat Ive ever known loved Scarface and Redman

I remember Redman being on the Rare Essence joint back in the day. The DC rap scene has suffered for the same reasons it always has here. The cities already had their own forms of music so rappers were basically outsiders on the local music scenes. Just like here with the club music when your in a club or party in DC go go was the music that got it lit. For yeeeeeeears dope rappers got overlooked due to this. Add in that crab mentality and this is what we got. Club music aint what it used to be here tho becuz the kids don't know how to DJ and the ones that do are

Idk how the go go scene is now but it doesn't seem like it was back in the day either. Aint shyt touching the 90s. There were several go go tracks that got played up here on 92Q. Now more kids are rhyming in both cities but it doesn't seem like they have the talent those 90s nikkas did. Plus neither city is making use of the fact we really should have our own sound. We had a little push in the early 2000s with some club inspired shyt that popped national but idk what happened. It seems like DC nikkas would've seen how Pretty Girls popped and would've followed suit. Maybe they are but Im just not up on it

 

[gldnone913]

Well, if y'all gonna post DMV music I haven't heard of, let me put y'all on some shyt right quick.

Matta Fact (VA)

yo this dude looks mad familiar. I think we go to the same barbershop. Didn't know ol boy rapped

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Nah, the 90s Bay scene was immaculate. The Bay scene birthed Pac and all types of other great acts. I wish DC could be that. But I think DC’s scene just hasn’t blossomed yet.

My cousin is a rapper out here (RasNebyu-info in sig) and he was in a panel discussion on the Kojo Nnamdi show about the topic of DC’s rap scene. I called in at the end and made a comment and it fits right in this reply.

Basically we can all agree that DC hasn’t yet blossomed but when it does it might come to have one of the most dynamic outputs of Hip Hop culture in years. The DC area is very transient so you get local and global influences, among the native population are communities ranging from regular hood shyt to Afrikan Centered and those inbetweens that took advantage of DC’s soft borders to go to school in MD and get exposed to still more opportunities, that doesn’t even account for Duke Ellington which has students from both affluent and at risk parts of the city.

On top of that the DC area is blended between north and south so it carries a bit of both cultures. So regarding rap styles, here in the DMV you can get away with all kinds of shyt and be flexible because even during the golden era you had bamas listening to East, South, and West coast artists.

Then if that isn’t enough, Go Go can provide an opportunity for the area’s producers to actually modify the sounds to fit a more contemporary Hip Hop sound which can eventually become a signature sound for the region.

So as disappointing as it may be there’s very fertile soil for things to grow so to speak. The hope is that Goldlink’s Grammy snub can be a moment for the area to rally around and show the rest of the industry that the DC area has something to say. Moreover, a lot of potential artists are discouraged out here due to the hatin nature of the area, the bullshyt politics, and the total lack of unity. Once these artists realize that a legacy can be had from truly putting the region on we might begin to see the full potential out here because I truly feel DC could be as unique as NY or LA in terms of what kind of rap music it’s putting out. Whether or not that actually happens is another story.

Kiiiilllllllll, your cuzzo is Ras!!???

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Kill moe, I know your niece then. Her mom a good friend of mine. This place is too damn small.

Lol facts, this whole thread feels like home

 

[BigMan]

Every DC cat Ive ever known loved Scarface and Redman

I remember Redman being on the Rare Essence joint back in the day. The DC rap scene has suffered for the same reasons it always has here. The cities already had their own forms of music so rappers were basically outsiders on the local music scenes. Just like here with the club music when your in a club or party in DC go go was the music that got it lit. For yeeeeeeears dope rappers got overlooked due to this. Add in that crab mentality and this is what we got. Club music aint what it used to be here tho becuz the kids don't know how to DJ and the ones that do are

Idk how the go go scene is now but it doesn't seem like it was back in the day either. Aint shyt touching the 90s. There were several go go tracks that got played up here on 92Q. Now more kids are rhyming in both cities but it doesn't seem like they have the talent those 90s nikkas did. Plus neither city is making use of the fact we really should have our own sound. We had a little push in the early 2000s with some club inspired shyt that popped national but idk what happened. It seems like DC nikkas would've seen how Pretty Girls popped and would've followed suit. Maybe they are but Im just not up on it

i really never understood why Baltimore hasn't produce one notable rapper

 

[Ardamus]

Sidenote
@2Quik4UHoes breh, i gotta rep you for that name. i crack the fukk up every time i read that shyt.

 

[norfwestdc]

The whole landscape different. I'm from Marlboro Pike (Nova Ave Glacier Ave side) then moved out to Clinton. This was back when that part of PG was the shyt for the black middle class. SE was rough af and Capital Heights, Glassmanor, Kentland, etc were the rough parts of PG. Largo/Mitchellville were a little more affluent than Clinton/Fort Wash but Tantallion had the big houses and bomb pool parties. PG isn't the black middle class staple that it once was and getrification has finally reached east of the river. So where are the resident getting pushed out to? PG. I'm rambling but shyt just different. And you can get caught up anywhere in PG now. And yeah MD rappers BEEN carrying the torch for the area.

How bad was Larchmont Ave and Nova Ave. I haven't heard them stamped in the gogos that much

 

[BmoreGorilla]

i really never understood why Baltimore hasn't produce one notable rapper

A bunch of reasons. Ain’t like there hasn’t always been a ton of rappers here but club music is king in the clubs. You might get two hours of hip hop in the club. Everybody beefs with each other. Local radio didn’t really start playing local rappers until maybe 15 years ago. The main source was always the Morgan hip hop show but they were only on once a week. The rappers themselves aren’t consistent. I remember hearing Tim Trees on the radio in ATL in 03. But he fell off before he got on. Bossman signed to JD and we haven’t heard much from him since. Mullyman fell off he got on. Smashed died. Lor Scoota was murdered. King Los eating in the ghostwriting game tho.

At the end of the day tho nikkas hate all day on their own. The past few years I’ve noticed the young boys supporting local shyt a lot more. I think some of that has to do with club music not being what it used to be

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

i really never understood why Baltimore hasn't produce one notable rapper

To be fair, Bmore has produced King Los (tho at this point, feels like ppl aren’t really checking for him as they did back in say 2011) and Lor Scoota (RIP, felt like he could’ve been Bmore’s Wale in terms stature and bringing bigger attention to their Hip Hop scene).

There’s also Tate Kobang who’s most known for this (shyt cranks too and the visuals are jii dope):



Other than that, it’s criminal that Baltimore hasn’t produced much in the way of major rappers.

Tho just like @BmoreGorilla pointed out, Black folk up there were more into Club and House music the same way we were more into GoGo down here. It’s nice that both Bmore and the DMV have been embracing Rap music more and more but I feel like it’s coming at a price....The lul nikkas in both areas aren’t as heavy into the more local music scenes that held us down the same way their predecessors have....A lotta new Bmore Club is meh as is a lotta new GoGo (NewImpressionz are dope tho). It’s like both local genres have fallen off hard since 2013 for a variety of reasons. Chuck Brown’s passing was a major hit to GoGo as I know K-Swift’s borderline suspect passing was a major hit to Bmore Club. Plus you also got some of these lul ass nikkas who got the nerve to say something like “DC or the DMV needs to kill GoGo for its Rap to get better”, I’m paraphrasing but I see shyt like that on the Innanet and I’m sure Baltimore got the same weird ass new nikkas on that shyt with their local music too

shyt’s sad man.

 

[BigMan]

A bunch of reasons. Ain’t like there hasn’t always been a ton of rappers here but club music is king in the clubs. You might get two hours of hip hop in the club. Everybody beefs with each other. Local radio didn’t really start playing local rappers until maybe 15 years ago. The main source was always the Morgan hip hop show but they were only on once a week. The rappers themselves aren’t consistent. I remember hearing Tim Trees on the radio in ATL in 03. But he fell off before he got on. Bossman signed to JD and we haven’t heard much from him since. Mullyman fell off he got on. Smashed died. Lor Scoota was murdered. King Los eating in the ghostwriting game tho.

At the end of the day tho nikkas hate all day on their own. The past few years I’ve noticed the young boys supporting local shyt a lot more. I think some of that has to do with club music not being what it used to be

To be fair, Bmore has produced King Los (tho at this point, feels like ppl aren’t really checking for him as they did back in say 2011) and Lor Scoota (RIP, felt like he could’ve been Bmore’s Wale in terms stature and bringing bigger attention to their Hip Hop scene).

There’s also Tate Kobang who’s most known for this (shyt cranks too and the visuals are jii dope):



Other than that, it’s criminal that Baltimore hasn’t produced much in the way of major rappers.

Tho just like @BmoreGorilla pointed out, Black folk up there were more into Club and House music the same way we were more into GoGo down here. It’s nice that both Bmore and the DMV have been embracing Rap music more and more but I feel like it’s coming at a price....The lul nikkas in both areas aren’t as heavy into the more local music scenes that held us down the same way their predecessors have....A lotta new Bmore Club is meh as is a lotta new GoGo (NewImpressionz are dope tho). It’s like both local genres have fallen off hard since 2013 for a variety of reasons. Chuck Brown’s passing was a major hit to GoGo as I know K-Swift’s borderline suspect passing was a major hit to Bmore Club. Plus you also got some of these lul ass nikkas who got the nerve to say something like “DC or the DMV needs to kill GoGo for its Rap to get better”, I’m paraphrasing but I see shyt like that on the Innanet and I’m sure Baltimore got the same weird ass new nikkas on that shyt with their local music too

shyt’s sad man.

shyt crazy. Like Newark and Detroit and Chicago are big on club and house but always contributed in hip hop. even small ass Newark has had a bigger impact than Baltimore.