FBA breh debates Franck Zanu who said FBA are lost and have no culture. Good debate.

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The King's Monologue just said he wants to sit down with this Zanu character. :mjgrin:
I don’t think it is going to make any difference to Zanu. He is set in his ways and probably has strongly influenced by Thomas Sowell’s ideas.

To me it’s basic that the 13th 14th 15th amendment and civil rights act are fundamental principles to migrations right. But Zanu can’t grasp it, for some reason.
 

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I don’t think it is going to make any difference to Zanu. He is set in his ways and probably has strongly influenced by Thomas Sowell’s ideas.

To me it’s basic that the 13th 14th 15th amendment and civil rights act are fundamental principles to migrations right. But Zanu can’t grasp it, for some reason.
No, but it might quell the burgeoning revisionist black history yt'er diaspora war taking place rn. The King's Monologue and grassy seas have come out on the FBA side, as has Robin Walker on one of these disingenuously pannie podcasts.
Kamjiverse and Without History have come out strong on the anti FBA side, so I had to unsub, both on yt and patreon. :francis:
 

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you are a grade A loser, you keep trying to compare yourself to me but you not even doing half the shyt I’m doing in real life :camby: again I have motion IN REAL LIFE foh weirdo

That would have made sense if I fled America to Nigeria, but your family fled over here from Nigeria to America....so you are comparing yourself to me:mjlol:
 

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No, but it might quell the burgeoning revisionist black history yt'er diaspora war taking place rn. The King's Monologue and grassy seas have come out on the FBA side, as has Robin Walker on one of these disingenuously pannie podcasts.
Kamjiverse and Without History have come out strong on the anti FBA side, so I had to unsub, both on yt and patreon. :francis:
I don’t watch these channels, so I don’t really know what they talk about in greater context. I do know that they deal African history, if correct? And “FBA” fundamentally is said to be indigenous to the Americas. So that is probably where the difference in opinion comes from. The origin obviously can’t be both.

However, do I not watch content about “diaspora wars”, gender wars” etc. I completely disregard that type of content, although the algorithm on social media keeps pushing it, as it is being fed by bots.

It was exposed that on X formerly Twitter, a lot of these accounts came from places like east India etc… causing this hysteria.


Zanu in the greater picture speaks of Black people globally. It happens to be that in a particular interview he was talking about Black Americans, which caused this ripple effect.

“Fundamentally there is no difference in how Thomas Sowell, Franck Zanu, Jason Black or Tariq Nasheed and many Black American conservatives look at the Black community and “Black culture”, from a “stereotypical point of view”. And I’m almost certain he has influences from the Thomas Sowell’s…”

Thomas has spoken a lot about “Black American culture” over the last 40 plus years.

In this particular conversation Zanu also said that in Africa they don’t have “culture”. Not that I agree with the things he is saying, but I do think a lot of people misinterpret him. Zanu is simply saying, we have to move on regardless of what happened…

But Zanu is wrong on “there is no culture”. Culture is dynamic and changes and is influenced by experiences.

“Jumping the broom” is a marriage tradition with deep roots in West Africa and a significant history in the African-American experience during slavery. Below is the clearest, most evidence-based origin breakdown.

✔️ 1. West African Origins (Core Source)

Anthropologists and historians widely trace the earliest forms of the ritual to West African communities—especially in regions of modern Ghana, Togo, Benin, and Cameroon.

🔹 In these societies:
• Brooms held spiritual symbolism: purification, sweeping away evil, protecting the home.
• Marriage rituals often included symbolic sweeping or stepping over a broom to signify:
• entering a new household
• joining two families
• fertility and domestic unity

⭐ Conclusion

The concept and symbolism originate primarily from West African cultural practice.

✔️ 2. African-American Slavery Adaptation

During slavery in the U.S. (1600s–1865), enslaved Africans were not legally permitted to marry.
As a result, they formed their own ceremonial traditions—one of the most widespread was “jumping the broom.”

🔹 In this context, the broom symbolized:
• A legitimate union in front of the community
• The couple’s commitment despite being denied legal rights
• Connection to African heritage

🔹 Historical accounts:
• Plantation diaries and WPA slave narratives contain references to broom-jumping weddings.
• Different plantations had their own variations (jumping forward, both partners holding the broom, etc.).

✔️ 3. Why Did Some Europeans Also Have a Similar Custom?

There were broom-jumping traditions among some marginalized European groups (e.g., Welsh Romani, Scottish Travelers).
However:

🔸 Key distinction:

The African-American broom jumping tradition does NOT come from European customs.
The meanings, symbolism, and continuity trace directly to West African cultural memory.

Most scholars (Tera Hunter, Patricia Turner, Shane White, etc.) agree that any European parallels are separate traditions, not the origin of the African-American one.

✔️ 4. Post-Slavery Decline and Modern Revival
• After Emancipation in 1865, African Americans quickly sought legal marriage, and broom jumping declined.
• The tradition was revived in the 1970s, especially after the television series Roots (1977) depicted it.
• Today it appears in African-American weddings, Afro-Caribbean ceremonies, and even some African diasporic cultural events.
 
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That would have made sense if I fled America to Nigeria, but your family fled over here from Nigeria to America....so you are comparing yourself to me:mjlol:

It’s an interesting observation, because people go where opportunities see fit. This is a global phenomenon, which includes Americans who go to other countries. Often we see “passport bros” becoming naturalized citizens in foreign countries, but these people usually have been former deployed military personnel.

"In Haiti they won autonomy; in the United States they fled from the slave states in the South to the free states in the North and to Canada.

Here the Free Negroes helped form the Abolition Movement, and when that seemed to be failing, the Negroes began to plan for migration to Africa, Haiti and South America."

(Dr. John Henry Clark - Collected Writings (2010))

 
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Again you are an idiot I have family literally all over the glove from China to Brazil go be stupid somewhere else

Yes you do have family all over the globe, because you are Nigerian and Nigerians want to flee Nigeria and Nigerians will live anywhere 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀😂

When Ukraine was 1st getting bombed by Russia, there were Nigerians who were trying to leave the Ukarine. Nigerians would rather live in the Ukraine than live in Nigeria:

 

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I was wondering if there was a thread abou this becaue I had planned on making one after seeing this clip the other day:childplease::mjpls:


 

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Yes you do have family all over the globe, because you are Nigerian and Nigerians want to flee Nigeria and Nigerians will live anywhere 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀😂

When Ukraine was 1st getting bombed by Russia, there were Nigerians who were trying to leave the Ukarine. Nigerians would rather live in the Ukraine than live in Nigeria:


What the fukk does Ukraine have to do with me or my family? We’ve been living in globally pre-WW2 since before Nigeria was even a nation you sound senile at this point. Which is crazy because at one point the naira was stronger than the pound or dollar in the early 1960s-mid 1980s

So not only are you a scorned bytch in my mentions you also are a complete idiot when it comes to basic history:unimpressed:

You are definitely a product of the no child left behind policy
 
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I'm a jareer madowm hope they use live rounds to destabilize or die. I didn't vote for Trump but the upcoming elections are why Democrats eventually go conservative. I forgot the say but when you get older, you'll understand why voting for Democrats is the issue.

Man I hope all of you get deported and fix your shytholes. We want proximity to whiteness while you beg to stay under Blackness in the US. Notice nobody are saying they have a victim mentality while they want to fight to stay living under white people. Notice immigrants aren't called colonizers while they pay taxes but the p*ssy to scared to speak on the whites calling them out?!! Something something something Black Americans. ICE don't need to pay me to drop you clowns 😭 😭 😭. Please come show me so I can get back to my roots by putting a gasoline soaked tire around your necks. I beg and dare you. Give us a reason to hate it outside of you competing with us. What did y'all run from? We are a majority that will send you home in a box. Please keep pushing like we won't genocide your people in America. Please
 

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I was wondering if there was a thread abou this becaue I had planned on making one after seeing this clip the other day:childplease::mjpls:



In fact there are two, this one and the other I made.

I was watching The Amazing Lucas and he has a complete different view on this subject.

I’m on the phone so I can’t timestamp, but his coverage starts at 1:44:00.

“Let's Talk: Piers v Fuentes | Tim Pool Meltdown | FBA v Tethers“

 

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Yes you do have family all over the globe, because you are Nigerian and Nigerians want to flee Nigeria and Nigerians will live anywhere 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀😂

When Ukraine was 1st getting bombed by Russia, there were Nigerians who were trying to leave the Ukarine. Nigerians would rather live in the Ukraine than live in Nigeria:



From what I recall these Africans were university students.

But yeah, I’ve been to Eastern Europe and there was a Nigerian community. All chill. Black American music (Snoop etc) was played in the background, at that barbershop. I heard nothing negative about Black Americans. We also went to a local market where they were selling products. My cousin and I. My cousin looks very similar to LL.
 
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