FBA is an online only hate group they said

[K.O.N.Y]

that only works with a logical definition.
otherwise it is an ill-defined social-construct of a lineage.
is a jamaican whose people were in america at its foundation in 1700's, then sold south, a foundational black america, more than a black american whose family arrived on the last ship in 1865?
is a liberain who left america in the 1700's an FBA?
do brehs those with 50%+ of gringo heritage owe money to FBA too?
are breh freemen from africa or europe who moved to the states pre 1865 FBA?
in the absence of records, how can these kinds of FBA-ness be proven? Is relative FBA-ness a thing?

its easily one of the best precise ethonyms out there, and easily the best black amercans have ever been designated under

you named extreme examples that exist in the furthest margins. You can do that with any group

is a jamaican whose people were in america at its foundation in 1700's, then sold south, a foundational black america, more than a black american whose family arrived on the last ship in 1865?-

there wouldnt be a "jamaican" with this dynamic, so its a nonsensical outlier

is a liberain who left america in the 1700's an FBA?-

um no. He would stem from a completely different ethno genesis. You can apply this to any post transatlantic ethnic group.


do brehs those with 50%+ of gringo heritage owe money to FBA too
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um no there isnt "brehs" that owe money. Its the united states government


are breh freemen from africa or europe who moved to the states pre 1865 FBA?

this is an extreme outlier that doesnt exist. And again could be applied to any transatlantic group. But yes that mythical person would be fba

all people who qualify, around 40+ million ppl, can trace their family back to the 1800s,1700s and 1600s

 

[tuckgod]

Look at FBA like BLM.

Black Lives Matter is a statement. It is also an organization.

FBA is in our blood. It CAN be an organization.

Much like BLM, it's usage becoming more common is definitely noteworthy, and definitely shouldn't be tied to Tariq's bum ass.

That said, you might end up carrying his damn baggage for using it online because of what some people use it for. Same as BLM.

It isn't a hate group. There are some hateful people who say it. It is what it is.

It’s not an organization at all.

It’s a lineage and a lineage alone.

Shut the fukk up.

 

[tuckgod]

Yall saw the Tethers tried to make their own month and use ours too?

Actually went to Congress to lobby for an African Diaspora Month. Lol

Kaine & Cornyn Introduce Bill to Create African Diaspora Heritage Month | U.S. Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Last week, U.S. Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA) and John Cornyn (R-TX), members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (SFRC),...

www.kaine.senate.gov

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Well I personally don't identify as FBA even though by definition I would fall in said category. Again, I don't have an issue with Black folks self defining so if a person wants to identify themselves as FBA, that's them. I'm not a spokesman for FBA so that's why I directed you to the website. Now I'm not going to lie, I seriously do believe there is an explanation to a few of the questions you asked on that website but you say it doesn't have any explanations. So the most I can do for you after that, is say that you should ask Tariq those questions if you seriously want a proper response, might as well get it from the source. Tariq is reachable. I reached out to him back around 2010 or 2011 on Facebook about publishing books and he responded. And if I'm not mistaken a Coli poster reached out to him not to long ago and posted the audio. You can do the same with your questions.

if you fit the description theres no logical reason not to embrace the term. Your fba whether you agree with it or not

if you had no problem being just black or black american, there's no logical reason not to be foundational-black american

 

[Plankton]

if you fit the description theres no logical reason not to embrace the term. Your fba whether you agree with it or not

if you had no problem being just black or black american, there's no logical reason not to be foundational-black american

With all due respect. Speak for yourself, don't speak for me. I already said years ago right here on this site that the term "Original Man" is how were raised to acknowledge ourselves. The Nation Of God's And Earths don't even acknowledge that term "Black" except when understanding it as a popular term among melanated people. So there is no way I would ever embrace a term with the word "Black" or "American" in it. "Black" is a term the white man gave The Original Man. Plus we acknowledge ourselves as "Gods" which is higher than being "Black" or an "American." Accepting such terms is a reduction of our true nature. You can accept that term all you want but don't lump me into that type of group think.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

With all due respect. Speak for yourself, don't speak for me. I already said years ago right here on this site that the term "Original Man" is how were raised to acknowledge ourselves. The Nation Of God's And Earths don't even acknowledge that term "Black" except when understanding it as a popular term among melanated people. So there is no way I would ever embrace a term with the word "Black" or "American" in it. "Black" is a term the white man gave The Original Man. Plus we acknowledge ourselves as "Gods" which is higher than being "Black" or an "American." Accepting such terms is a reduction of our true nature. You can accept that term all you want but don't lump me into that type of group think.

most people who reject shatter into straight nonsense

"Original man" makes zero sense as an ethonym or ethnic designation

 

[Plankton]

most people who reject shatter into straight nonsense

"Original man" makes zero sense as an ethonym or ethnic designation

Well you just exposed yourself because what you just called "straight nonsense" is what Muhammad Ali , Malcolm X, Minister Farrakhan and Dr Khalid Muhammad accepted and taught to the masses for decades. The term Original Man comes from The Supreme Wisdom. Basically you just insulted the belief system that made Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X into the men we all know and honor.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Well you just exposed yourself because what you just called "straight nonsense" is what Muhammad Ali , Malcolm X, Minister Farrakhan and Dr Khalid Muhammad accepted and taught to the masses for decades. The term Original Man comes from The Supreme Wisdom. Basically you just insulted the belief system that made Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X into the men we all know and honor.

exposed myself to what


that term works a philosophical designation not as an ethnonym or ethnic designation/peoplehood

 

[RamsayBolton]

1. pretty much saw this coming once Ryan Coogler shouted FBA out. It's a shame Tariq is the face of FBA cause delineation makes sense otherwise and it doesnt have to have any hate associated with it

2. why are people mentioning democrats in this thread like I said there is no reason for this movement to tie itself to BothSidesing and waving away republicacs evils and yet...

 

[UpNext]

DNColi on the wrong side of history, yet again, trying to bring their partisan nonsense to the discussion and demonize an ethnic distinction, for no reason at all.


Don't y'all just get tired of being wrong about....everything?

 

[Plankton]

exposed myself to what


that term works a philosophical designation not as an ethnonym or ethnic designation/peoplehood

You sound way out of the loop because the Nation Of Islam itself in 8 years will be 100 years old. LOL @ saying that a nation that is about to be 100 years old doesn't work as a peoplehood.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

You sound way out of the loop because the Nation Of Islam itself in 8 years will be 100 years old. LOL @ saying that a nation that is about to be 100 years old doesn't work as a peoplehood.

you sound like you have no idea what constitutes an actual ethnic identity. Which is par for the course for many people that "reject" fba/ados

 

[Phitz]

its easily one of the best precise ethonyms out there, and easily the best black amercans have ever been designated under

you named extreme examples that exist in the furthest margins. You can do that with any group

is a jamaican whose people were in america at its foundation in 1700's, then sold south, a foundational black america, more than a black american whose family arrived on the last ship in 1865?-

there wouldnt be a "jamaican" with this dynamic, so its a nonsensical outlier

is a liberain who left america in the 1700's an FBA?-

um no. He would stem from a completely different ethno genesis. You can apply this to any post transatlantic ethnic group.


do brehs those with 50%+ of gringo heritage owe money to FBA too
-

um no there isnt "brehs" that owe money. Its the united states government


are breh freemen from africa or europe who moved to the states pre 1865 FBA?

this is an extreme outlier that doesnt exist. And again could be applied to any transatlantic group. But yes that mythical person would be fba

all people who qualify, around 40+ million ppl, can trace their family back to the 1800s,1700s and 1600s

For people with your logic....as an FYI, EVERYONE who's ancestors left America but kept the family paperwork from 1700/1800/1900, etc still got their American citizenship through these records...settlers who went back to Africa, children, grand, great grand of former US military and so on.

Just so you know. This is how its practiced with MOST nations.

Your cult doesnt set the rules, dna does.

 

[UpNext]

For people with your logic....as an FYI, EVERYONE who's ancestors left America but kept the family paperwork from 1700/1800/1900, etc still got their American citizenship through these records...settlers who went back to Africa, children, grand, great grand of former US military and so on.

Just so you know. This is how its practiced with MOST nations.

Your cult doesnt set the rules, dna does.

I just want to remind folks that there are a lot of stupid people walking on this Earth.


So when you read points like the above and go, huh? You're not crazy, he's just stupid. You don't win arguing with stupid, you just point it out and let them sit in their own idiocy.

 

[Plankton]

you sound like you have no idea what constitutes an actual ethnic identity. Which is par for the course for many people that "reject" fba/ados

You are so clueless you don't even know how clueless you are. You didn't hear anything I said. I literally told you that The Supreme Wisdom acknowledges what you refer to as Black Men as "Gods." That is what you would refer to is the "ethnic identity." I literally said that in post #50. We were raised to see ourselves as divine on a level bigger then any human label involving race or ethnicity. This is a concept that is obviously foreign to you but it's the exact teachings that made Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X who they were.


The fact that you are clueless to this old info seriously makes me question if you are really from NYC. Like what era were you raised in because you clearly aren't from 80's or 90's New York City.


How the hell is someone from NYC clueless to what I'm saying? It's obvious you never went to the School in Mecca or Medina nor did you ever go to Mosque #7 or Mosque #7C. And I say that because it involved going outside and engaging in actual meetings. It wasn't online nonsense, it was actual going outside and being among people. If I had this conversation with Big Daddy Kane or Rakim or GZA they wouldn't be clueless like you are. And it forces me to question if you are really from NYC.