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Patriarchy is so evil... except for where it benefits us.
Yeah men protect us in war, but war is bad anyway... but we do enjoy the spoils of war.
Yeah we want to be equal to men, but only on the positive parts of manhood like power to vote. Serving in the military? Uh... no!
We don't want to follow archaic gender roles... except the part about us being served by our men, protected by our men and that chivalry thing too...
Men and women are 100% equal....but my p*ssy still gets wet when I see a 6'5'' man who is muscular pull up in an S-Class Mercedes... I still don't find short, small or broke men attractive.

Just had to lampshade the whole thing. I give this thread 5 Silver Hammers.
 

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I don't think you're getting my point. My point is women say they want equality but don't want everything that comes with it. I never said I was against women having equal rights. I'm only against the idea that women can have their cake and eat it too. I'm against MEN having their cake and eating it too. If men don't build societies, protect their women, provide for their women, and sit around watching their women do it and women build civilizations and protect their men then I'd be all for a matriarchy.

History has shown us that matriarchies work. So has the condition of the black community... I don't care how many civilizations you can name that were matriarchal. THERE IS NO VALUE IN A CIVILIZATION THAT YOU CANNOT DEFEND. Nothing is stopping a neighboring patriarchal community from invading your matriarchal community and destroying it due to it having weak men. You have a bunch of beta males sitting around "lalala lala lala lalala I love our women!!!" then some brolic patriarchs swarm in like, "WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET?!!?" and destroy the culture. shyt the women might put up a good fight, but women still want men to protect them UNDERNEATH their matriarchy. As if what's going on with the black community isn't enough evidence.

This is why I coined the phrase pseudo-matriarchy. It's not a true matriarchy. It's not even a true egalitarian society. It's matriarchy on women's terms. YOU CAN'T DEFEND THAT!

Isn't it funny how suffrage made women equal to men in ALL aspects except conscription? You want it equal then let's make it equal. That is my point. Don't make it 50, 60, 70, 80, or 99% equal. That still isn't equal.

When women decide to throw away their perks of being women and take accountability like men then I will be all for 100% equality. That's not exactly what happens though. THAT is the caveat that everyone who has replied to me has ignored. No one will address it either, because ultimately they know they can't. I'm asking all feminists right now "Do you agree to relinquish all of the perks of being a woman and take accountability like men in order to have the power that men have?"

If the answer is no, then there is nothing left to be said. Power doesn't come without accountability. You also can't say the system is sexist yet expect to keep all the perks that were given to you BECAUSE of the inequality.

Be feminist all you want, just don't complain about the fallout of feminism. Women are already complaining about what comes out of it. If women stop complaining then I won't have a gotdamn thing to say.
When women see what TRULY comes out of equality they will NOT like that shyt. "Hold up I ain't sign up for this...."

These same feminists crying about how "chivalry is dead." :childplease: Yeah, it's dead because you bytches killed it.




SORRY. WE'RE CLOSED!

Now here is the fundamental question.

You're saying on one hand... no matriarchal culture can protect itself... and that fundamentally in order for any society to thrive Alpha men assume the role as the main protectors aka LEADERS of given society...

On the other hand you're saying women are not willing to assume the responsibility of things like conscription and military service... BUT say they did... by your logic in point A wouldn't they just be punked out by neighboring alpha males in time of war? (microcosm)

You're saying that women need to assume responsiblity but in the same post you said the only way for a society to be able to protect itself is under a patriarchy?

Right?
 

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Patriarchy is so evil... except for where it benefits us.
Yeah men protect us in war, but war is bad anyway... but we do enjoy the spoils of war.
Yeah we want to be equal to men, but only on the positive parts of manhood like power to vote. Serving in the military? Uh... no!
We don't want to follow archaic gender roles... except the part about us being served by our men, protected by our men and that chivalry thing too...
Men and women are 100% equal....but my p*ssy still gets wet when I see a 6'5'' man who is muscular pull up in an S-Class Mercedes... I still don't find short, small or broke men attractive.

Just had to lampshade the whole thing. I give this thread 5 Silver Hammers.

Well i guess this answers my question.
 

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A person who carries a gun into battle stands to be much more likely to lose far more than someone who's paving roads or something else of the like. Here's the Wikipedia article:

Selective Service System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just because women CAN join the military, doesn't mean that they have to make themselves available to a draft. Totally different things. One is optional and the other is not. Besides... far more men than women make that choice anyway, so that's not a solid argument.

It literally makes no difference what that person is fit to lose. There both one unit of currency to betterment of their respective society thus encumbering the same amount of responsibility.

The President of the United states has much less chance of suffering a major injury than a garbage man... but we need the garbage man to do his job just like we need the president to do his... Cant have garbage piling up... its bad for society as a whole.

I think there's some sort of taboo mysticism around military work especially in the states... Im not saying it doesnt take a shetload of fortitude to serve... but the fact is... Its a job, no different from a lawyer, a teacher or a 711 cashier.
 

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Now here is the fundamental question.

You're saying on one hand... no matriarchal culture can protect itself... and that fundamentally in order for any society to thrive Alpha men assume the role as the main protectors aka LEADERS of given society...

On the other hand you're saying women are not willing to assume the responsibility of things like conscription and military service... BUT say they did... by your logic in point A wouldn't they just be punked out by neighboring alpha males in time of war? (microcosm)

You're saying that women need to assume responsiblity but in the same post you said the only way for a society to be able to protect itself is under a patriarchy?

Right?
That's precisely what I'm saying. The only way a matriarchy or an egalitarian society can thrive would be if the entire world followed that principle. Is it fukked up that they won't work? It is. I'm not debating that. I would actually prefer a true egalitarian society, but logically it won't work.

My emotional side favors egalitarianism. My logical side realizes that it doesn't work. This is why I don't understand why people are saying I'm putting my feelings into it.

Men protect women from other men. Women still like big, muscular, wealthier men. Is it biology? Or is it socialization?

If this were like Starship Troopers where you had to join the military to be a citizen regardless of male or female, you had coed showers, women not being attracted to how much money men make, and not by how strong or tall he is and men and women were both equally as strong and this was a global system then yeah it could work.
The world is so far away from that right now though. Maybe if people evolved to where both men and women were equally as strong it could work... and both sides would have to take the good for the bad. No complaining about the perks you had under patriarchy being destroyed under the egalitarian system.

If it worked that way I wouldn't have anything to say. That's the ideal, but realistically?... ehh don't see it happening.
 

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That's precisely what I'm saying. The only way a matriarchy or an egalitarian society can thrive would be if the entire world followed that principle. Is it fukked up that they won't work? It is. I'm not debating that. I would actually prefer a true egalitarian society, but logically it won't work.

My emotional side favors egalitarianism. My logical side realizes that it doesn't work. This is why I don't understand why people are saying I'm putting my feelings into it.

Men protect women from other men. Women still like big, muscular, wealthier men. Is it biology? Or is it socialization?

If this were like Starship Troopers where you had to join the military to be a citizen regardless of male or female, you had coed showers, women not being attracted to how much money men make, and not by how strong or tall he is and men and women were both equally as strong and this was a global system then yeah it could work.
The world is so far away from that right now though. Maybe if people evolved to where both men and women were equally as strong it could work... and both sides would have to take the good for the bad. No complaining about the perks you had under patriarchy being destroyed under the egalitarian system.

If it worked that way I wouldn't have anything to say. That's the ideal, but realistically?... ehh don't see it happening.

Ok i feel you... I disagree but its sensical...

but the whole thing about women being attracted to strong and tall men... that goes both ways breh and its definitely biological in nature, you dont control your erections just like a broad cant control getting wet...

searching for certain traits has much less to do with protection than it does to do with ensuring the survival of your offspring through the shared inheritance of genes... atleast thats what they teach you in university level biology... fukk if i really know lol...

good thread tho. im out.
 

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Taught to hate men by groups invested (mostly financially) in such. Those groups tear the confidence of women down with exaggerations and lies, give them a scapegoat and then a way out (dvds books courses political leaders)
Groups take advantage of all types in this way. Just more money in gays lesbian jewish black community to steal because of all the pain most of them dealt with. Of course some lesbians hate men an other way round but its when its affecting families theres a problem
 

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It literally makes no difference what that person is fit to lose. There both one unit of currency to betterment of their respective society thus encumbering the same amount of responsibility.

The President of the United states has much less chance of suffering a major injury than a garbage man... but we need the garbage man to do his job just like we need the president to do his... Cant have garbage piling up... its bad for society as a whole.

I think there's some sort of taboo mysticism around military work especially in the states... Im not saying it doesnt take a shetload of fortitude to serve... but the fact is... Its a job, no different from a lawyer, a teacher or a 711 cashier.

No, you don't get it. It's a REQUIREMENT THAT YOU RISK YOUR LIFE. As in, you don't choose to do it, someone else chooses that role for you. You don't get to decide that it's your life on the line. Does that make sense?

On another note... 1 out of every 11 Presidents have been assassinated. It's a dangerous fukking job. Maybe as many as 1-10 or 1-9, depending on what you think of what happened to Zachary Taylor or Warren G. Harding. Also, the POTUS has a WAY more important job than a garbage man. Mostly because the President cannot be so easily replaced. A garbage man can be replaced by anyone. And his job isn't as dangerous as a draftee's or a POTUS.

Some people just contribute more than others. And soldiers being given a special status isn't uniquely American either, although I know it's popular for people that aren't from the United States to shyt on this country for things that people from all nations do.
 
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WHY ARE WE LIVING IN A MATRIACHIAL SOCIETY IN THE FIRST PLACE? Because black men have completley and utterly dropped the fukking parenting ball.

No, we haven't. The courts are against us from the outset if we try to gain sole custody and, consequently, children are awarded to the mother by default. There are practically no resources for men who wish to gain custody of children they have......unlike our female counterparts. Also, we're in a matriarchal society due to slavery. This is NOT an opinion, but based on cold, hard facts:

U.S. Department of Labor -- History -- Chapter IV. The Tangle of Pathology

That the Negro American has survived at all is extraordinary — a lesser people might simply have died out, as indeed others have. That the Negro community has not only survived, but in this political generation has entered national affairs as a moderate, humane, and constructive national force is the highest testament to the healing powers of the democratic ideal and the creative vitality of the Negro people.

But it may not be supposed that the Negro American community has not paid a fearful price for the incredible mistreatment to which it has been subjected over the past three centuries.

In essence, the Negro community has been forced into a matriarchal structure which, because it is to out of line with the rest of the American society, seriously retards the progress of the group as a whole, and imposes a crushing burden on the Negro male and, in consequence, on a great many Negro women as well.

Feminism isn't for 'Black' women because 'White' people don't give a F*CK about you aside from how much money they can make off you and keeping us 'under control'.
 

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